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2/14/2008 7:02:11 PM EDT
I wanted to ask about two things real quick that I was taught about shooting that I have seen are not universally done by good shooters.

1.  I was always taught to put the stock snugly into the "pocket" in my shoulder.  It feels like it was made to go there.  I see alot of people however, that put it very high on their shoulder to get a better sight picture.  It seems to me that the muscle memory of throwing it into the pocket would be better in a stressfull situation than balanced way up there on the shoulder.

2.  I was always taught (by my father, hunter safety, and later on by several special forces personnel) to use the pad of my finger on the very end after the last joint to squeeze the trigger.  I have seen many great competition shooters (Todd Jarret IIRC) that put their finger much farther through like past the first joint.

Since I have seen all of these different methods being used by good shooters, is there any generally accepted (or military) way of doing these things?
2/14/2008 7:05:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Whatever is safe, comfortable and works for you, is the "proper form" as far as i'm concerned.

I think way to many instructors waste too much training time trying to make everybody conform to their idea of textbook form to shooting. If it works for that person and isn't dnagerous you are alright.
2/14/2008 7:09:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Get the book "Green Eyes and Black Rifles" by SGM Kyle Lamb. It shows the proper techique for shooting the black rifle
2/14/2008 7:10:07 PM EDT
[#3]
For accuracy what has more sensitivity:

The pad of the tip of your index finger?

Or the crook of your first joint on your index finger?
2/14/2008 7:11:18 PM EDT
[#4]
It really depends on what you are doing. You not going to have the same form between High Power and room clearing.

I think the most important thing is consistency once you find what works for you. I am no expert though.
2/14/2008 7:11:18 PM EDT
[#5]
I learned all my shooting techniques from watching John Woo films.
2/14/2008 7:15:13 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I learned all my shooting techniques from watching John Woo films.


Yeah thats the way to go.  I combat roll when brushing my teeth.
2/14/2008 7:27:03 PM EDT
[#7]
youre doing it right, dont forget things like!

cheek weld, is the full weight of your head on the stock?
non firing hand position, where are you holding the forend? close to the muzzle or the magwell? and how are you holding it?
eye relief, is it the same everytime?
sight picture
trigger squeeze, take up slack, steady even pressure strait to the rear
blading or not blading depending on if youre wearing armor or shot distance
are you standing, kneeling, prone, some kind of akward position? if so are you using bone support and not muscle support?
are you controlling your breathing as well?

theres a lot to shooting, the army at least, teaches some but not nearly as much as it should. you should be able to find most of this stuff on google............
2/14/2008 7:39:18 PM EDT
[#8]
There's different forms for different situations - the most accurate form often isn't the fastest, and vice versa.

Buttstock position? Sunk in the pocket is great laying prone or shooting skeet - but put on an Interceptor and attempt fast shots offhand and the utility of the high rifle hold suddenly becomes apparent. Spending the day working a shoot house with a shotgun and both go out the window when you move the butt in towards the pectoral muscle to get quicker sight pictures and absorb recoil.

Same way with the trigger - the pad is great when working on MOA groups with a bolt action rifle - but ain't so hot when you're going for speed with a double action revolver.
2/14/2008 8:48:06 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I learned all my shooting techniques from watching John Woo films.


Yeah thats the way to go.  I combat roll when brushing my teeth.


I also rack my slide everytime I raise up to shoot. I waste a lot of ammo, but damn, I love the sound it makes.