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1/30/2008 3:00:27 PM EDT
Till the internet explodes... and the plane takes off...
1/30/2008 3:00:52 PM EDT
[#1]
1/30/2008 3:01:00 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Till the internet explodes...




Oh, wait...I forgot.  That image violates the CoC...somehow.  
1/30/2008 3:02:11 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Till the internet explodes...




asteroid fever?
1/30/2008 3:03:15 PM EDT
[#4]
think treadmill
1/30/2008 3:03:24 PM EDT
[#5]
The new Mythbusters where they test the plane on the treadmill.
1/30/2008 3:11:30 PM EDT
[#6]
ZOMG!

1/30/2008 3:13:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Anybody want to bet it won't take off?

I got a C-note saying it WILL TAKE OFF.

Come on, put up or shut up.

1/30/2008 3:15:30 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Anybody want to bet it won't take off?

I got a C-note saying it WILL TAKE OFF.

Come on, put up or shut up.



If it doesn't take off, they fail at reality.
1/30/2008 3:17:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Sweet I got front row for the implosion of ARFCOM.

1/30/2008 3:20:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Shit and I'm going to miss it.

I guess I'll know when I get home and the front page of ARFCOM GD is nothing but


OMG WTF BBQ THE PLANE TOOK OFF

or

OMG WTF BBQ THEY FUCKED UP THAT TEST

or

OMG WTF BBQ IT DIDN'T TAKE OFF

ad nauseam.
1/30/2008 3:35:30 PM EDT
[#11]
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.
1/30/2008 3:36:15 PM EDT
[#12]
IT WILL FLY!!!
1/30/2008 3:36:46 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.


What grade did you earn in physics class?
1/30/2008 3:39:53 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.


What grade did you earn in physics class?


We'll see in 1hr 20min
1/30/2008 3:42:04 PM EDT
[#15]
The plane flies.

I earned an "A" in PHY 101.  That class was the most difficult 101 class I've ever taken.  
1/30/2008 3:42:52 PM EDT
[#16]
what time and channel?
1/30/2008 3:43:55 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.


oh no
1/30/2008 3:44:10 PM EDT
[#18]
didnt they already do this once ?
1/30/2008 3:46:26 PM EDT
[#19]
Discovery channel at 8PM Central.
1/30/2008 3:47:24 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Discovery channel at 8PM Central.



thanks
1/30/2008 3:48:35 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.


I guess that must be a picture of you in your avatar?
I can't blame you for not knowing shit about airplanes since you have never seen one, having wandered the jungle in a loincloth your entire life.
1/30/2008 3:50:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Maybe I should watch it.
1/30/2008 4:06:21 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
won't take off.....ground speed on a treadmill don't = air speed.


I guess that must be a picture of you in your avatar?
I can't blame you for not knowing shit about airplanes since you have never seen one, having wandered the jungle in a loincloth your entire life.


1/30/2008 4:11:55 PM EDT
[#24]
I still don't think it will fly
1/30/2008 4:15:16 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I still don't think it will fly


You have to realize that the conveyor belt is only acting on the plane's free-spinning wheels, which are not what powers a plane. The conveyor belt will have no effect on the plane engines' ability to move the plane forward.
1/30/2008 4:18:43 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
IT WILL FLY!!!



doubt it
1/30/2008 4:20:52 PM EDT
[#27]
Of course it is going to fly.

They're using a Harrier.
1/30/2008 4:21:54 PM EDT
[#28]
Its gonna fly.
1/30/2008 4:22:02 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
IT WILL FLY!!!



doubt it


Did you not read any of the epic threads on this subject?

Now if you mean they will fuck it up and not accurately reproduce the scenario (treadmill matches wheel speed), then yea, maybe.
1/30/2008 4:23:20 PM EDT
[#30]
They're gonna stick a plane on a conveyor belt in a wind tunnel and it'll fly.

That plane will fly backwards if it ain't going fast enough too.
1/30/2008 4:25:55 PM EDT
[#31]
1/30/08
Mythbusters episode sets all-time primetime viewing record.
1/30/2008 4:26:19 PM EDT
[#32]
Just something to note: those of us who actually can fly/have flown aircraft unanimously say it takes off.
1/30/2008 4:27:54 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Till the internet explodes... and the plane takes off...


If a plane takes off of a treadmill in the woods and no one is there to see it, does it really fly??
1/30/2008 4:29:39 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I still don't think it will fly


You have to realize that the conveyor belt is only acting on the plane's free-spinning wheels, which are not what powers a plane. The conveyor belt will have no effect on the plane engines' ability to move the plane forward.


let's say the coneyor belt is moving 500mph, the plane produces enough thrust to move 500mph. It's going 500mph in relation to the conveyor belt, but not moving in relation to it's surroundings. Doesn't it need airspeed to provide lift under it's wings, or am I just living up to my avatar
1/30/2008 4:31:06 PM EDT
[#35]
It needs to have air moving over and below the wings to produce a difference in air pressure to generate lift.

If the conveyor belt can somehow make the air move fast enough over the lift surfaces it will fly, if not it won't do shit.

If it's pointed up at the sky with solid booster rockets like the space shuttle it won't matter because it isn't dependant on the wings for lift, it's a damn missile.
1/30/2008 4:31:50 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
It needs to have air moving over and below the wings to produce a difference in air pressure to generate lift.

If the conveyor belt can make the air move fast enough over the lift surfaces it will fly, if not it won't do shit.


Fail
1/30/2008 4:32:51 PM EDT
[#37]
Here it comes...
1/30/2008 4:38:57 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It needs to have air moving over and below the wings to produce a difference in air pressure to generate lift.

If the conveyor belt can make the air move fast enough over the lift surfaces it will fly, if not it won't do shit.


Fail


no shit
1/30/2008 4:39:11 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Here it comes...


Dude, get a Kleenex...Jeez!
1/30/2008 4:39:55 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
let's say the coneyor belt is moving 500mph, the plane produces enough thrust to move 500mph. It's going 500mph in relation to the conveyor belt, but not moving in relation to it's surroundings. Doesn't it need airspeed to provide lift under it's wings, or am I just living up to my avatar

No, it'll move 500 mph in relation to its surroundings, and 1000 mph in relation to the conveyor belt.

Put on rollerskates, get on a treadmill. Put the treadmill at 10 mph, then skate at 10 mph. Not moving, right? Because you're using the interaction between your skates and the treadmill to move. This is why the treadmill vs. car works.

Now attach a rope to the wall, and pull yourself forward at 10 mph. You will move forward at 10 mph, but your skates' wheels will rotate at 20 mph because treadmill is going back at 10. This is why treadmill vs. plane does not work. You're pulling on something independent of the treadmill in order to achieve forward motion, just like an aircraft. All your skates are doing is countering gravity and rotating freely.
1/30/2008 4:42:36 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I still don't think it will fly

Is the plane attached to the belt or is it just sitting there? No air over the wings to produce lift, no fly, same with sails on boats. (no wind around the sail no move) Somehow you got to get the air flowing over one side faster then the other to induce lift.
1/30/2008 4:44:48 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I still don't think it will fly

Is the plane attached to the belt or is it just sitting there? No air over the wings to produce lift, no fly, same with sails on boats. (no wind around the sail no move) Somehow you got to get the air flowing over one side faster then the other to induce lift.


No shit.

The belt does impart backwards force.  But the plane/engine on has to generate enough force to break to start turning the wheels (this force is equal even if the belt is moveing 10mph as it is if the belt is moving 500mph).  Beyond that point any excess force will move the plane forward, thus air over and under the wings, and you get lift.
1/30/2008 4:47:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Then they need a faster treadmill. One that can go at Mach 2 or 3 speeds. The wheels will burn out much faster than the plane can get off the ground.
1/30/2008 4:50:04 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
let's say the coneyor belt is moving 500mph, the plane produces enough thrust to move 500mph. It's going 500mph in relation to the conveyor belt, but not moving in relation to it's surroundings. Doesn't it need airspeed to provide lift under it's wings, or am I just living up to my avatar

No, it'll move 500 mph in relation to its surroundings, and 1000 mph in relation to the conveyor belt.

Put on rollerskates, get on a treadmill. Put the treadmill at 10 mph, then skate at 10 mph. Not moving, right? Because you're using the interaction between your skates and the treadmill to move. This is why the treadmill vs. car works.

Now attach a rope to the wall, and pull yourself forward at 10 mph. You will move forward at 10 mph, but your skates' wheels will rotate at 20 mph because treadmill is going back at 10. This is why treadmill vs. plane does not work. You're pulling on something independent of the treadmill in order to achieve forward motion, just like an aircraft. All your skates are doing is countering gravity and rotating freely.


your right, the airplane is pulling the air to keep up with the treadmill, thus providing lift...in that case, it might fly
1/30/2008 4:54:12 PM EDT
[#45]
It's a trick question anyway. Given enough thrust you don't need no damn wings to fly. I.e. the missile example.
1/30/2008 5:00:08 PM EDT
[#46]
You can actually prevent a plane on a treadmill from taking off...

... put a fan behind it and set it at such a speed that it counters the air moving over the wings. No lift.
1/30/2008 5:02:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Epic topic on the Mythbusters fan site!

1/30/2008 5:15:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Ha!
1/30/2008 5:17:02 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Ha!


+1
1/30/2008 5:20:05 PM EDT
[#50]
You could tell that Jamie wanted to call all you "no fly" guys a bunch of idiots.
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