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12/26/2007 8:09:07 AM EDT
[#1]
That was until the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives banned the Accelerator - two years after approving it.

To the ATF, the mechanism is an illegal converter kit that, in the wrong hands, could turn a run-of the-mill target rifle into a 700-round-per-minute killing machine.
12/26/2007 8:13:56 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
That was until the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives banned the Accelerator - two years after approving it.

To the ATF, the mechanism is an illegal converter kit that, in the wrong hands, could turn a run-of the-mill target rifle into a 700-round-per-minute killing machine.


In light of this I've wondered about one or these

(crank for the trigger guard)
Listed in Cheaper Than Dirt . How do they get by?

Don't have a link, but there is also a "Gatling Gun" kit you add two 10/.22 barrels to that spits them out pretty fast.  ???

12/26/2007 8:14:00 AM EDT
[#3]

Wade would not comment on Akins' contention that the ATF erred in its decision-making.

"That's the bottom line is that we believe it's a machine gun," the spokesman said. "End of story."
12/26/2007 8:14:43 AM EDT
[#4]
Officials from the NRA and the National Sports Shooting Association, chief advocates for gun ownership in the country, were not willing to comment on Akins' dilemma.
12/26/2007 8:16:23 AM EDT
[#5]
The inventor posted about this last week asking for help (I'm not being a dupe nazi, just showing more info about the topic):

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=652118
12/26/2007 8:17:00 AM EDT
[#6]
Akins turned to several pro-gun Republicans in Congress. Staff members promised someone would look into it.

"They said they couldn't do anything," Akins said. "Their hands are tied."



What does that mean?



12/26/2007 8:22:04 AM EDT
[#7]
lets see.. go back and investigate. seems like i remember he never sent the atf the final working version. or he sent them diagrams or something....

then he makes this thing that makes your 22 a machine gun.. i mean maybe not strictly according to the law up until that time, but slap that sucker on your 10/22 and off you guy blazing away at 700 rounds per minute or therabouts with accuracy and controllability...

so the atf comes in and does what it can, which is to keep new mgs out of the hands of civilians and they find some way to do so administratively and walla!

what do you expect? you want new legal mgs in civvy hands your gonna have to change the laws. end of story..

as to the money this guy lost, maybe.. i always wondered though at 1300 bucks a copy. how many did he sell? how expensive was it to manufacture? was a stock with a spring really have that much expense in it including development to make it necessary to charge that amount of money to make a profit?

i would like to know how he lost 'millions' on this deal...
12/26/2007 8:27:36 AM EDT
[#8]
The idea I got from the thread in the link I posted earlier, he sent a version of the invention with an SKS to the ATF and they approved it.  He then made the same device for a 10/22 and they said it was illegal.  The stock basically assists in bumpfiring.  It isn't a machinegun according to the written law.  

And Bill Akins brought up a good point, if they can ban a bumpfire stock for being a machinegun, and you can bumpfire any semi-auto rifle, what stops them from banning all semi-autos for being "machineguns"?

The other day I saw someone bumpfire an entire magazine from a semi-auto AK, from the shoulder.  The only difference between that and the Akins Accelerator is a lot of practice, but they are the same thing.
12/26/2007 8:27:52 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

i would like to know how he lost 'millions' on this deal...


Price the follwoing out, and you will see.
1. Injection mold
2. Lawer(s)
3. Copyright search and application
4. Ads  
12/26/2007 8:43:58 AM EDT
[#10]


By CHRISTIAN M. WADE, The Tampa Tribune

Published: December 26, 2007

HUDSON - It was a simple idea, with big potential.

For years, marksmen have been using a technique called bump firing, shooting a semiautomatic rifle from the hip and allowing the weapon's recoil to pull the trigger.


Credibility goes out the window by the second sentence of the article...
12/26/2007 9:49:15 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Akins turned to several pro-gun Republicans in Congress. Staff members promised someone would look into it.

"They said they couldn't do anything," Akins said. "Their hands are tied."


What does that mean?


It means Akins wasn't a long-time contributor to their campaigns and/or the RNC, so too bad, so sad, sorry we can't help...