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12/11/2007 6:10:58 PM EDT
Does the full-brimmed hard hat provide significantly better protection than the "visor"-brimmed hard hat?  It seems to me that the full brim would do a bit to help protect the back of your neck from falling objects.

normal "visor"-brimmed



full-brim

12/11/2007 6:13:47 PM EDT
[#1]
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YeeHaaaa...!
12/11/2007 6:15:12 PM EDT
[#2]
I've used the single brim for about 35 years. The brim on any of them gets in the way during a lift and will make your neck hurt from looking up. Used to be that you could turn it around bill to the rear if you were a welder; which I am, but now every piss ant safety goober knows what's best for you and you can't do that unless you are sparking right then.

I never liked the soup bowl look of the 360 degree billed hard hats. Just my opinion.

What kind of work will you be doing in this PPE?
12/11/2007 6:15:49 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes, but the increase in protection is marginal at best.  The full brim may help to protect the neck from falling debris and the like.  
12/11/2007 6:17:29 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I've used the single brim for about 35 years. The brim on any of them gets in the way during a lift and will make your neck hurt from looking up. Used to be that you could turn it around bill to the rear if you were a welder; which I am, but now every piss ant safety goober knows what's best for you and you can't do that unless you are sparking right then.

I never liked the soup bowl look of the 360 degree billed hard hats. Just my opinion.

What kind of work will you be doing in this PPE?


Mining.  Primary danger is falling rock.
12/11/2007 6:17:30 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Yes, but the increase in protection is marginal at best.  The full brim may help to protect the neck from falling debris and the like.  


I think that's the reason firemen wear the over-the-neck types.
12/11/2007 6:18:55 PM EDT
[#6]
I hate hard hats. They make me a few inches taller and I either bang my head on things I wouldn't normally hit, or stoop too low to avoid shit. That makes my back sore.

I hate hard hats.
12/11/2007 6:19:27 PM EDT
[#7]
Maybe it would help you out in a mine.  I've never been in one but I can imagine that there is always dust and pebbles falling down the back of your neck.

Good luck.
12/11/2007 6:20:36 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yes, but the increase in protection is marginal at best.  The full brim may help to protect the neck from falling debris and the like.  


I think that's the reason firemen wear the over-the-neck types.


Ours have the long backs to keep water from going down our backs.
12/11/2007 6:21:30 PM EDT
[#9]
The visor brim makes one look like a boss, the full brim makes one look like a worker.
12/11/2007 6:22:54 PM EDT
[#10]
mine is full brimmed, helps with the sun some

geologist here.
12/11/2007 6:27:41 PM EDT
[#11]
Full brim is really good if you are working outside in the sun a lot.  It can help protect your ears from sunburn.  

Also look at what you are working under.  If there is a lot of loose lightweight material that may fall onto your head the full brim might be worth it.  Typical construction work, the normal hardhat is better off as you can typically attach hearing protection and face shields to it with ease.
12/11/2007 6:27:42 PM EDT
[#12]
I voted Full-Brim
My fist and next one was made out of metal but they can't be used now, because it might conduct electricity.

Now I have to use a plastic hardhat.
12/11/2007 6:29:03 PM EDT
[#13]
We have several guys at work who bought their own full brim hard hat, they claim it is balanced better so it doesn't have the tendency to fall off. It also provides better sun block too.

I don't know. I only wear mine when made to, (not often)

12/11/2007 6:30:37 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
We have several guys at work who bought their own full brim hard hat, they claim it is balanced better so it doesn't have the tendency to fall off. It also provides better sun block too.

I don't know. I only wear mine when made to, (not often)



which leads to another question, is the primary purpose of the full brim for sun block or for better neck protection from injury?
12/11/2007 6:31:26 PM EDT
[#15]
Full brim works a lot better in the rain..........ask me how I know....

I think that it will give a little more for strikes on the back of the hat.

It's there to protect from light strikes and bumps you do not want to test it with large objects or crushing blows , those are the ones that kill or maim.....
12/11/2007 6:32:21 PM EDT
[#16]
Anything atop your dome is better than nothing.
12/11/2007 6:34:46 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

which leads to another question, is the primary purpose of the full brim for sun block or for better neck protection from injury?


To keep dirt and crap out of your shirt.

Real reason?
They were patterned after WWI military helmets.  
12/11/2007 6:36:25 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

which leads to another question, is the primary purpose of the full brim for sun block or for better neck protection from injury?


To keep dirt and crap out of your shirt.

Real reason?
They were patterned after WWI military helmets.  


Yeah i picked up on that one, they look almost exactly like the British WW1 helmet

12/11/2007 6:36:31 PM EDT
[#19]
The jobs we move are between 500 and 30,000 pounds. Although we wear them, hard hards are a moot point if things go bad.
12/11/2007 6:38:55 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Full brim works a lot better in the rain..........ask me how I know....

I think that it will give a little more for strikes on the back of the hat.

It's there to protect from light strikes and bumps you do not want to test it with large objects or crushing blows , those are the ones that kill or maim.....


Yeah, think a medium to small rock hitting your dome or clunking it on the top of a mine shaft or shit falling down  the back of your neck.

I work at a scientific research facility, we have huge 40 ton gantry cranes and they pick up big ass blocks of concrete and such. They move these over large concrete caves that have scientific equipment in them, I work on the equipment inside. We have to wear the hard hats in the caves. The hats will not help if something hits the cave heavy enough to fall through or knock a chunk out of it.

Get the broad brim and see if you can find one with a chin strap. And you need an AR15.com boltface sticker.
12/11/2007 6:40:27 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Yeah i picked up on that one, they look almost exactly like the British WW1 helmet

www.landships.freeservers.com/jpegs/new_unifs/british_ww1helmet.jpg


Yep, that's the one.

Anyway, I prefer the full brim helmet; keeps sun off better, keeps debris out of my clothes, and is a lot more comfortable in the rain.
The brim has also saved me some good knocks on the back of the head.  A horizontal blow will move your head instead of smack it with a full brim helmet.
12/11/2007 6:41:05 PM EDT
[#22]
I've worn both kinds for many years. The visor ones may look "cooler" but the full brim ones are better in the rain or other water above you situations (like jokers 3 floors up with open floor grating and a 5 gallon bucket of water).

They also balance better so they don't fall off as easy when you bend over to get your ass reamed by the boss for spraying the fire hose up 3 floors to get even for the 5 gallons of water earlier.

Someone also mentioned that the visor type is better for attached ear muffs.

Just my opinion.
12/11/2007 6:46:18 PM EDT
[#23]
I've worn a hard hat every working day for the last 8.5 yrs.

Only falling object that has hit me in the head (hardhat) was a 3ft duct strap that Ralphie dropped.  It was an accident, but how he got the nick "Ralphie" is too funny.

But...

About a year ago, our company changed from the visor type to the full-brim.

I don't like the full-brim.

My observations:
1.  The full brim did nothing to keep my neck and ears from getting sunburnt.  I spent a month or so on the top of the Accenture bldg - Prue and Babcock in San Antonio - and never thought my ears could peel that much.

2.  Almost every damn time I climb out of a scissors lift, I catch the back part of the full-brim on the railing, knocking my hard hat off.  I now just take it off when I climb down.  As do most of my co-workers.

3.  Having a bigger brim just hits on more things - especially when you're working up in a ceiling.

4.  The front of the full visor brim seems to block LESS sunlight from getting in my eyes than did the visor type.

5.  The full-brim is MUCH more prone to be blown off by the wind than the visor type.

6.  I can throw a full-brim hard hat farther then the visor type. (tempers flared during a job meeting)


And Ralphie.

Ralphie is a practical joker.  And a tin bender.

He kept doing stuff to this one guy, and the guy got even in a big way.

Ralphie is big...really big.  And eats junk food like it's going out of style.

The guy chewed up some chew, then stuffed it in a Twinkie.

Ralphie at the Twinkie, then when Ralphie said it tasted funny, the guy told him about the chew.

Ralphie proceed immiately to the nearest trash receptacle (near the water jug), and proceeded to "ralph" his guts out.  Hence, Ralphie.  I can't even remember his real name.

I swear that's true, and I saw the whole thing.

12/11/2007 7:04:21 PM EDT
[#24]
I wear the full brim, also referred to as "linesman". It does a better job of keeping rain out of my hearing aids.

12/11/2007 7:08:22 PM EDT
[#25]
full brim for the water and sun protection

my employees all prefer the full brim also
12/11/2007 8:49:55 PM EDT
[#26]
I still wore my full brim McDonald "T" aluminum hard hat in the late 1980's.

It was fun to go out to a site where everyone was wearing those gay-looking cheap plastic front brim baseball type hard hats.
I'd get out, put on my "Rock McCloud the Logger" aluminum hat and watch them looking at it.
Shortly they'd start sidling up asking if they could buy my hat, or asking where they could buy one.

The aluminum hat is cooler in the summer since it not only reflects the heat, but it also doesn't hold heat like plastic, and they seem to actually be lighter than plastic.
Due to OSHA crap., you can only wear them today in outdoors areas where there's no electric lines.
The good news is, a company is bringing back the McDonald "T" aluminum hat and cap with a reinforced top:

cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Skullbucket-Aluminum-Full-Brim-Hardhat-Hard-hat-SIL_W0QQitemZ360000085866QQihZ023QQcategoryZ11904QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

If you can't wear aluminum, buy an iron workers fiberglass version.  At least you won't look like a sissy dick.
12/11/2007 9:10:33 PM EDT
[#27]
I worn both during my eletrcian constrution days...

Full brim provides more protection.

The visor is for making face mask and hearing protection easier to wear. Plus they are lighter.

Management always worn full brim since they didn't need face shields or long term hearing protection. Maybe to help protect from things being thrown at them too.
12/11/2007 9:16:52 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I still wore my full brim McDonald "T" aluminum hard hat in the late 1980's.


That's my hat of choice. They be the Shitzzzz!

12/11/2007 9:29:26 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I hate hard hats. They make me a few inches taller and I either bang my head on things I wouldn't normally hit, or stoop too low to avoid shit. That makes my back sore.

I hate hard hats.


+1

Rarely have to wear them, but when I do I normally end up on my ass from banging my head on something.......
12/11/2007 9:42:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Full Brim. In a past life I was a telco cable splicer.
12/11/2007 9:44:45 PM EDT
[#31]
When I was doing work that required a hard hat we would just take front brim hats and remount the suspension so the brim was in back.
12/11/2007 9:48:37 PM EDT
[#32]
I like the full brimmed keeps the sun off of ya better. Luckly now the bosses dont make us wear them.
12/11/2007 9:49:30 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Full brim works a lot better in the rain..........ask me how I know....



Ahhhhhhhhh, brings back memories of being a choker hound in Forks ~36 years ago.
12/11/2007 10:01:22 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
When I was doing work that required a hard hat we would just take front brim hats and remount the suspension so the brim was in back.
That's what I used to do, until our resident safety goober bitched to the plant manager about it, because it was "unsafe".

Damned goofball's never spent a minute working around a crane, but he's going to tell me what's unsafe. He's a wasted paycheck.
12/13/2007 5:31:45 PM EDT
[#35]
If you are a normal person, and work above ground, then the full brim is the only way to fly.  It keeps the rain & snow out of your collar!  I figure dust & falling gravel falls into the same collar.  Whatever PPE you are issued is probably the way to go though.