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10/6/2007 7:18:19 AM EDT
SAFE DEFROSTING
FSIS recommends three ways to defrost chicken: in the refrigerator, in cold water and in the microwave. Never defrost chicken on the counter or in other locations. It's best to plan ahead for slow, safe thawing in the refrigerator. Boneless chicken breasts will usually defrost overnight. Bone-in parts and whole chickens may take 1 to 2 days or longer. Once the raw chicken defrosts, it can be kept in the refrigerator an additional day or two before cooking. During this time, if chicken defrosted in the refrigerator is not used, it can safely be refrozen without cooking first.


Why?

ETA: t is not safe to thaw meat on the countertop at room temperature as this allows dangerous bacteria to grow in just two hours, or 1 hour in high summer heat (90°F and above).

hmmmm so I just wasted some chicken then
10/6/2007 7:20:39 AM EDT
[#1]


Doh
10/6/2007 7:21:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Do you know what bacteria is?  That's why.
10/6/2007 7:22:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Even though they are indiviualy wraped packages I guess they are not air tight.
10/6/2007 7:23:04 AM EDT
[#4]
There is a grand total of 4 hours in which food may be outside the safe temp zone before teh rapid growth of food borne pathogens begins.  Outside of refrigeration defrosting puts the bird out of this zone.  Chicken is particularly sensitive due to salmonella.  Cooking food does NOT remove or kill all pathogens, it merely reduces them to  "safe" levels.
10/6/2007 7:25:02 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
SAFE DEFROSTING
FSIS recommends three ways to defrost chicken: in the refrigerator, in cold water and in the microwave. Never defrost chicken on the counter or in other locations. It's best to plan ahead for slow, safe thawing in the refrigerator. Boneless chicken breasts will usually defrost overnight. Bone-in parts and whole chickens may take 1 to 2 days or longer. Once the raw chicken defrosts, it can be kept in the refrigerator an additional day or two before cooking. During this time, if chicken defrosted in the refrigerator is not used, it can safely be refrozen without cooking first.


Why?

ETA: t is not safe to thaw meat on the countertop at room temperature as this allows dangerous bacteria to grow in just two hours, or 1 hour in high summer heat (90°F and above).

hmmmm so I just wasted some chicken then


Just cook the fucking chicken.
10/6/2007 7:27:34 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
SAFE DEFROSTING
FSIS recommends three ways to defrost chicken: in the refrigerator, in cold water and in the microwave. Never defrost chicken on the counter or in other locations. It's best to plan ahead for slow, safe thawing in the refrigerator. Boneless chicken breasts will usually defrost overnight. Bone-in parts and whole chickens may take 1 to 2 days or longer. Once the raw chicken defrosts, it can be kept in the refrigerator an additional day or two before cooking. During this time, if chicken defrosted in the refrigerator is not used, it can safely be refrozen without cooking first.


Why?

ETA: t is not safe to thaw meat on the countertop at room temperature as this allows dangerous bacteria to grow in just two hours, or 1 hour in high summer heat (90°F and above).

hmmmm so I just wasted some chicken then


Just cook the fucking chicken.


They were frozen blocks so I took them out last night and wife put them in fridge around 5am. About 7 hours out I'd say. More than I would normally do it. I was just trying to be ready. Then she hits me up on how thats not a good way. I am all bamboozled now
10/6/2007 7:27:55 AM EDT
[#7]
thaw chicken in hot water.  the hotter the better.  150 deg.f minimum.  takes about an hour.
10/6/2007 7:36:25 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
SAFE DEFROSTING
FSIS recommends three ways to defrost chicken: in the refrigerator, in cold water and in the microwave. Never defrost chicken on the counter or in other locations. It's best to plan ahead for slow, safe thawing in the refrigerator. Boneless chicken breasts will usually defrost overnight. Bone-in parts and whole chickens may take 1 to 2 days or longer. Once the raw chicken defrosts, it can be kept in the refrigerator an additional day or two before cooking. During this time, if chicken defrosted in the refrigerator is not used, it can safely be refrozen without cooking first.


Why?

ETA: t is not safe to thaw meat on the countertop at room temperature as this allows dangerous bacteria to grow in just two hours, or 1 hour in high summer heat (90°F and above).

hmmmm so I just wasted some chicken then


Just cook the fucking chicken.


They were frozen blocks so I took them out last night and wife put them in fridge around 5am. About 7 hours out I'd say. More than I would normally do it. I was just trying to be ready. Then she hits me up on how thats not a good way. I am all bamboozled now


Were they room temp and nasty for 7 hours?

Likely not.

Cook the chicken.
10/6/2007 7:37:32 AM EDT
[#9]

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thaw chicken in hot water.  the hotter the better.  150 deg.f minimum.  takes about an hour.


Thats called "cooking".
10/6/2007 7:41:35 AM EDT
[#10]
I think I would probably do it but my wife is not liking the idea and its cheap enough to just get more and not get sick. I will do it the suggested way next time
10/6/2007 7:42:03 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
thaw chicken in hot water.  the hotter the better.  150 deg.f minimum.  takes about an hour.


Thats called "cooking".

not quite.  it's closer to pasteurizing and will kill off all the bacteria.  maybe i should have said 150-160.  you can stew it at 200 but lower than that it won't cook.  if the outside turns white you are cooking it.
10/6/2007 8:00:48 AM EDT
[#12]
You don't defrost chicken using HOT water.
10/6/2007 8:05:48 AM EDT
[#13]
LOL I read the title as "Defrosting Children" not realy sure why or even why I clicked on the thread...
10/6/2007 8:28:58 AM EDT
[#14]
Cold running water over the chicken.  Bacteria won't develop, it'll thaw faster than sitting it out on the counter.  By the way, the counter is a horrible way to thaw chicken.  They carry so much stuff, there's a reason they're always on the bottom shelf in restaurant refrigerators.  It's to prevent cross-contamination.
10/6/2007 8:39:19 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
thaw chicken in hot water.  the hotter the better.  150 deg.f minimum.  takes about an hour.


No, don't do that.  Thawing chicken in hot water turns it white and makes it tough.  Cold water is slow (3 hours or so) but leaves it ready to cook to tenderness.
10/6/2007 8:46:35 AM EDT
[#16]
Always thawed it on the counter, I'm not dead yet and haven't ever been sick from eating it.... I always cook it as soon as its thawed though, never left it sitting out thawed for hours. If it was left in the fridge after I would say your safe.
10/6/2007 8:48:43 AM EDT
[#17]

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LOL I read the title as "Defrosting Children" not realy sure why or even why I clicked on the thread...



you're not alone.  I thought it was going to be a frozen embryo thread.


But for chicken, I just throw the fozen bird-blocks on the grill on the upper step for 20 min, then down to the main surface to cook.  If germs can survive that, they deserve to win.
10/6/2007 8:53:46 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
SAFE DEFROSTING
FSIS recommends three ways to defrost chicken: in the refrigerator, in cold water and in the microwave. Never defrost chicken on the counter or in other locations. It's best to plan ahead for slow, safe thawing in the refrigerator. Boneless chicken breasts will usually defrost overnight. Bone-in parts and whole chickens may take 1 to 2 days or longer. Once the raw chicken defrosts, it can be kept in the refrigerator an additional day or two before cooking. During this time, if chicken defrosted in the refrigerator is not used, it can safely be refrozen without cooking first.


Why?

ETA: t is not safe to thaw meat on the countertop at room temperature as this allows dangerous bacteria to grow in just two hours, or 1 hour in high summer heat (90°F and above).

hmmmm so I just wasted some chicken then


The danger zone is from 41 degress F to 135 degrees F. It is even worse from 70 to 125.


Next time, put it in a pot, put pot in sink and run water into the pot and over the chicken. It will defrost faster and not allow bacteria to grow.

I usually put the chicken parts in a ziplock before freezing, that makes it easier to handle and easier to use the water trick to thaw.
10/6/2007 8:54:19 AM EDT
[#19]
I'm hungry for some chicken now..... Bastards.
10/6/2007 8:55:42 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
There is a grand total of 4 hours in which food may be outside the safe temp zone before teh rapid growth of food borne pathogens begins.  Outside of refrigeration defrosting puts the bird out of this zone.  Chicken is particularly sensitive due to salmonella.  Cooking food does NOT remove or kill all pathogens, it merely reduces them to  "safe" levels.



Also, campylobacter.
10/6/2007 9:41:28 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Cold running water over the chicken.  Bacteria won't develop, it'll thaw faster than sitting it out on the counter.  


This is correct.  Sorry hk940, but this way is even faster than your hot water method (which is horrible anyway).
10/6/2007 3:48:56 PM EDT
[#22]

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Jesus tits people is it that hard to put chicken in your fridge the day before you eat it??



I was going shooting this morning and wanted to get up and prep it. If in fridge I would have expected it to still be a bit to frozen. I'll try better next time