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8/20/2007 9:07:14 AM EDT
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Taiwan Jet Explodes Into Fire in Japan
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Aug 20, 11:59 AM (ET)

By DEBBY WU

NAHA, Japan (AP) - Passengers used emergency slides to evacuate a China Airlines jet just minutes before the plane burst into a fireball Monday on the tarmac. All 165 people aboard escaped unhurt, including the pilot, who jumped from the cockpit at the last second.

Transport Ministry official Akihiko Tamura told reporters that airport traffic controllers had received no report from the pilot indicating anything was wrong with the Boeing 737-800.

"The fire started when the left engine exploded a minute after the aircraft entered the parking spot," Tamura said.

The plane burst into flames seconds after what the last crew member escaped from a rear door and the pilot jumped from the cockpit window, according to footage from national broadcaster NHK.

(AP) A China Airlines Boeing 737-800 explodes into flames at Naha Airport, Okinawa Prefecture (state),...
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The aircraft skidded on the tarmac on its way from the runway to the gate after landing, starting a fire that prompted the emergency evacuation, according to China Airlines spokesman Sun Hung-wen.

"After the plane landed, there were flames, and I heard explosions a few times, then saw black smoke," Hideaki Oyadomari, an airport worker, told NHK. "We felt the hot air coming our way."

Japan's National Police Agency said terrorism was not suspected. Initial reports from ground personnel showed that a fuel leak from the right engine could have led to a series of explosions, according to another Transmport Ministry official, Fumio Yasukawa.

Local fire official Hiroki Shimabukuro said two passengers - a 7-year-old girl and a man in his 50s - were hospitalized because they felt unwell, but not because they were injured. A ground engineer was knocked off his feet by the force of the blast, but was not hurt, the ministry said.

The fire was put out about an hour later, leaving the aircraft charred and mangled.

(AP) Firefighters and fireengins surround a China Airlines plane that burst into a fireball following...
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Several passengers told NHK they were preparing to get off the plane after what seemed like an ordinary landing when they were suddenly told to use the emergency slides to evacuate.

Some said they saw smoke and flames entering the cabin and that there was a stampede to exit. Minutes later, many said, they heard explosions.

"I suddenly saw flames beside me, and everybody started rushing to get out," a male passenger told NHK. "People were pushing and shoving in panic," he said.

"I felt the boom of the explosion behind me as soon as I got off," a female passenger said.

Taiwan's Civil Aeronautics Administration head Chang Kuo-cheng said authorities ordered China Airlines and its subsidiary Mandarin Airlines to ground their 13 other Boeing 737-800s pending a thorough inspection.

(AP) Passengers flee from a China Airlines Boeing 737-800 after it exploded into flames at Naha Airport,...
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Japanese aviation authorities also ordered an emergency inspection of all Boeing 737-800 planes owned by Japanese airlines, as well as some 737-700 models that carry a similar engine.

China Airlines' 737-800 had CFM 56 engines, made by CFM International, a joint venture between GE Aviation, a unit of General Electric Co. (GE), and France's Snecma, Boeing spokesman Jim Proulx said. All 737-800s are built with the same engine.

Proulx said Japan requested technical assistance from and a Boeing investigator was expected to arrive by Wednesday. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration sent investigators to examine the scene, spokeswoman Laura J. Brown said in Washington.

The Okinawa fire is a setback to China Airlines, which in recent years appeared to have improved on a troubled safety record among international carriers.

A China Airlines 747 crashed in 2002 as it flew from Taipei to Hong Kong, leading to 225 deaths, and some 450 people died in China Airlines accidents during the 1990s.

"We are prepared to do its best to get to the bottom of this incident," China Airlines president Zhao Guoshi told reporters at a press conference at Naha airport late Monday. "I apologize for the trouble we have caused our passengers."
8/20/2007 9:12:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Video of it burning
8/20/2007 9:14:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Melted





8/20/2007 9:18:57 AM EDT
[#3]
Interesting.  

I have seen the aftermath of catestrophic turbine failures on a number of airliners but usually they don't burn to the ground.  What went wrong?
8/20/2007 9:19:30 AM EDT
[#4]
The thing that got me, is that some passengers are carrying their "carry on" luggage!


That's the last thing on my mind, if the plane is going up in smoke
8/20/2007 10:29:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Airbus crap

8/20/2007 10:30:00 AM EDT
[#6]
I always said in flight BBQ's are a bad idea.
8/20/2007 10:42:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Wow, look at the amount of water those nozzles on the fire trucks can produce.
8/20/2007 10:44:12 AM EDT
[#8]
8/20/2007 10:44:28 AM EDT
[#9]

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Airbus crap



It was a Boeing 737-800.  The Airbus would have burned in the air.
8/20/2007 10:47:17 AM EDT
[#10]
Nice Jet-a-que...
8/20/2007 10:50:17 AM EDT
[#11]
That's what the PRC gets for stealing U.S. and other technology to copy and counterfeit products. Damn Chinese spies are everywhere. Serves them right.
8/20/2007 10:53:42 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
The thing that got me, is that some passengers are carrying their "carry on" luggage!


That's the last thing on my mind, if the plane is going up in smoke


Imagine trying to get to the door while the plane is burning and someone is blocking the isle trying to get their carry on out of the overhead compartment.
8/20/2007 10:54:18 AM EDT
[#13]
Chinese just can't get shit right now days

maybe this will get those portable wok's banned now
8/20/2007 10:57:18 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

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The thing that got me, is that some passengers are carrying their "carry on" luggage!


That's the last thing on my mind, if the plane is going up in smoke


Imagine trying to get to the door while the plane is burning and someone is blocking the isle trying to get their carry on out of the overhead compartment.


Sounds like a dandy way to become roadkill to me.
8/20/2007 11:01:24 AM EDT
[#15]

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snip...

China Airlines' 737-800 had CFM 56 engines, made by CFM International, a joint venture between GE Aviation, a unit of General Electric Co. (GE), and France's Snecma, Boeing spokesman Jim Proulx said. All 737-800s are built with the same engine.



There's your problem right there... the engine just gave up.
8/20/2007 11:04:13 AM EDT
[#16]

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Airbus crap



It was a Boeing 737-800.  The Airbus would have burned in the air.

LOL Pwnt!
8/20/2007 11:11:31 AM EDT
[#17]
China Airlines is a Taiwanese airline, not PRC.
8/20/2007 11:13:08 AM EDT
[#18]
Who the hell brought fire on the airplane??????
8/20/2007 11:19:26 AM EDT
[#19]

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China Airlines is a Taiwanese airline, not PRC.


Then maybe the PRC burned it to teach a lesson to the Falun Gong dissidents on board...? j/k
8/20/2007 11:24:20 AM EDT
[#20]
stupidity among internet commandos today is strong...
8/20/2007 11:56:44 AM EDT
[#21]
Dam, I was there last year. Glade to see the fire dept were fast & well equiped.





***drove around our airbase there. Lot of fighter jets flying around. When checking out japans jets all I could see were F4's
8/20/2007 12:19:54 PM EDT
[#22]

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That's what the PRC gets for stealing U.S. and other technology to copy and counterfeit products. Damn Chinese spies are everywhere. Serves them right.



  ROC, PRC, it's all the same.  
8/20/2007 3:07:13 PM EDT
[#23]

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Who the hell brought fire on the airplane??????





This is going to be an interesting investigation, since that the CFM-56 is one of the most reliable and safest engines in the world.  Just an extremely slow to spool engine.
8/20/2007 3:26:26 PM EDT
[#24]
China Airlines is the absolute worst - by a considerable margin...

Airline Accident Rates

Ranked 87th out of 87
8/20/2007 9:43:35 PM EDT
[#25]

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That's what the PRC gets for stealing U.S. and other technology to copy and counterfeit products. Damn Chinese spies are everywhere. Serves them right.

Do people walk up to you on the street, concerned . . . that you might reproduce?


Quoted:
China Airlines is the absolute worst - by a considerable margin...

Airline Accident Rates

Ranked 87th out of 87

Yeah, this is why I won't fly CAL.

BTW, about the carry-on luggage . . . guys, we're talking about the Taiwanese here.  Believe me, they are not the sharpest spoons in the drawer.  Every time someone spouts the old "the Chinese make plans for generations ahead!" line, I just have to laugh -- Chinese culture doesn't even teach people to think two months ahead.  I'm sorry, but it's true.  Speaking as a former Sinophile who learned better the hard way. . . .
8/20/2007 10:39:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Video of plane exploding, captured by a passenger on the terminal itself.
8/20/2007 11:07:10 PM EDT
[#27]
I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...
8/20/2007 11:17:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Taiwan may be very wealthy, and have first-world tech and quality of life, but their thinking is decidedly still third-world. Give them anything more complicated than a bicycle, and they'll have no clue how to maintain it.
8/20/2007 11:33:03 PM EDT
[#29]

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Melted

i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/scaryblackguns/SadAirplane.jpg





They should have put less lead in it.  
8/20/2007 11:54:20 PM EDT
[#30]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...
8/21/2007 12:17:06 AM EDT
[#31]
I saw a news article about this earlier tonite.  What struck me right off, and I bet it made the rounds here, was in the opening paragraph, the one that is always bolded, and is the summary on the webpages, ie First Thing You Read, the 4th sentence was 'Not related to Terrorism.'

(I apologize for that farked up run on sentence.)

I just thought it was odd that here (at the time) we have an aircraft that just exploded and is burning on the tarmac, but they know, right now while they're still fighting the fire, that it wasn't terrorists...

*British Bobby Cop Voice* Move along, move along, nothing to see here!  No terrorism about.  Move along, move along.

ETA:  I'm not saying it was terrorism, it doesn't appear so.  I'm just getting a bit tired of the Not Terrorism claims minutes after something happens.  Like the pilot shouts:  'MAYDAY!!!  Oh, but it's not terrorism!  Mayday anyways though...'
8/21/2007 12:38:37 AM EDT
[#32]

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Taiwan may be very wealthy, and have first-world tech and quality of life, but their thinking is decidedly still third-world. Give them anything more complicated than a bicycle, and they'll have no clue how to maintain it.


I'm confused.  Is China Airlines a Taiwanses outfit, or PRC?
8/21/2007 2:00:53 AM EDT
[#33]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.
8/21/2007 7:25:16 AM EDT
[#34]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.


Are these the pictures?



8/21/2007 7:39:42 AM EDT
[#35]
I don't think anyone post this yet:

Chinese Fire Drill
8/21/2007 7:43:32 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Taiwan Jet Explodes Into Fire in Japan


As opposed to exploding into ice cubes.
8/21/2007 8:54:01 AM EDT
[#37]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.


Are these the pictures?

img127.imageshack.us/img127/6426/105644021eldyqkphgf6.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/7185/105644009hptzxaphsf5.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/3803/105643994apsltgpheg1.jpg


 Holy Crap!  What happened to that engine?
8/21/2007 3:21:33 PM EDT
[#38]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.


Are these the pictures?

img127.imageshack.us/img127/6426/105644021eldyqkphgf6.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/7185/105644009hptzxaphsf5.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/3803/105643994apsltgpheg1.jpg


 Holy Crap!  What happened to that engine?



Yep those are the pics, I was looking for those.

Dilbert what happened there was called FOD or Foreign Object Debris.  Something besides air entered the engine, and jet engines don't like that.  The reason that they secured the fan with seatbelt extensions was that even as it flies through the air, the air will force the engine to spin causing a condition known as windmilling, which will destroy that engine even more.
8/21/2007 3:26:47 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Who the hell brought fire on the airplane??????


Hey!  Anyone know where Treetop is?


8/21/2007 7:11:06 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

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Taiwan may be very wealthy, and have first-world tech and quality of life, but their thinking is decidedly still third-world. Give them anything more complicated than a bicycle, and they'll have no clue how to maintain it.


I'm confused.  Is China Airlines a Taiwanses outfit, or PRC?

China Air is the national carrier of TaiwanThe Republic of China, sole legitimate government of all of China including the island of Taiwan.

As opposed to those pretenders over on the mainland, who call themselves the People's Republic of China, who merely claim to govern China and Taiwan.  Different outfit.  Totally illegitimate.  Pay no attention to them.
8/21/2007 7:15:57 PM EDT
[#41]
If it were a Chinese made plane that would never have happened.
8/21/2007 7:16:27 PM EDT
[#42]
It would have broke as soon as they took it out of the box
8/21/2007 9:14:55 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.


Are these the pictures?

img127.imageshack.us/img127/6426/105644021eldyqkphgf6.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/7185/105644009hptzxaphsf5.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/3803/105643994apsltgpheg1.jpg


 Holy Crap!  What happened to that engine?



Yep those are the pics, I was looking for those.

Dilbert what happened there was called FOD or Foreign Object Debris.  Something besides air entered the engine, and jet engines don't like that.  The reason that they secured the fan with seatbelt extensions was that even as it flies through the air, the air will force the engine to spin causing a condition known as windmilling, which will destroy that engine even more.
And FOD can be anything,from junk on the ramp,to 2 step stairs,to an A/C hose that wasn't put back in the jetway box. 737-300 thru 900s are also known to suck up ramp rats too.
8/22/2007 12:35:32 AM EDT
[#44]

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I remember seeing an engine photo from China airlines or something. They jerry rigged one of the turbofans together with SEAT BELTS...


I remember that, but to be fair that was for transport and not for in flight use.  It did not instill confidence though...



That was a Korean Air Lines 747-400.  And they were using it for a revenue flight at the time.  When they had to make a diversion to FRA due to increased fuel burn for more gas, the JAA  shut them down.


Are these the pictures?

img127.imageshack.us/img127/6426/105644021eldyqkphgf6.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/7185/105644009hptzxaphsf5.jpg
img127.imageshack.us/img127/3803/105643994apsltgpheg1.jpg


 Holy Crap!  What happened to that engine?



Yep those are the pics, I was looking for those.

Dilbert what happened there was called FOD or Foreign Object Debris.  Something besides air entered the engine, and jet engines don't like that.  The reason that they secured the fan with seatbelt extensions was that even as it flies through the air, the air will force the engine to spin causing a condition known as windmilling, which will destroy that engine even more.
And FOD can be anything,from junk on the ramp,to 2 step stairs,to an A/C hose that wasn't put back in the jetway box. 737-300 thru 900s are also known to suck up ramp rats too.



Mechanics too.
8/22/2007 12:50:35 AM EDT
[#45]

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Video of plane exploding, captured by a passenger on the terminal itself.


I dont know why but when that thing blew and everyone scurried away, it gave me a good laugh.