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AR15.COM
7/18/2007 7:13:25 PM EDT
I'm impressed.  I subscribed when they did the right thing and dumped Zumbo.

Now they came out with a pro AR15 article.
7/18/2007 7:17:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I will purchas e asubscription this week then.
7/18/2007 7:18:56 PM EDT
[#2]
7/19/2007 6:12:19 AM EDT
[#3]
We definitely got someone's attention witht eh zumbo campaign.
7/25/2007 9:48:44 AM EDT
[#4]
I bought a copy to read on my flight this week. Here is the article

www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/shooting/article/0,19912,1639507,00.html


The World's Most Versatile Rifle
By Michael Bane

They're accurate, they're customizable and they're fun to shoot. Why you're going to see more AR-style rifles in the woods this fall.

July 2007

In truth, I came late to the black-rifle party, but it wasn't as if I didn't get a heads-up. In the late 1970s, like so many other shooters, I'd fallen under the sway of Colonel Jeff Cooper, the cult of the 1911 and the idea—or perhaps the ideal—of practical shooting. But the sport had just been born, matches were few and far between, and the only "custom" 1911s I'd ever seen were in the pages of Guns & Ammo.

That's when I met Jimmy Q, an explosive ordnance-disposal expert back from Vietnam. Jimmy was typically seen in a cut-off gray sweatshirt and mirrored aviator shades and lived in a one-room apartment over his gun store. He was also the first for-real "combat shooter" (that's what we called it back then, combat shooting) I'd actually met. He had one of those 1911s just like in G&A, and he was amazing with it. I knew a lot about hunting guns and not much else. Growing up in Tennessee, I'd had a lever-action .30-30 put in my hands about the time I said my first word, which I believe was "deer." I'd done a lot of shooting with Ruger Blackhawks, owned a 1930s vintage S&W double-action .38 for"self-defense" and purchased, for a deal that was definitely too good to be true, a first-generation S&W M59 9mm that worked only occasionally.

So I hocked the 9mm and a hunting rifle and put the money into a Colt Combat Commander 1911 .45 and a custom set of S&W revolver sights that cost me more than the gun, and off I went. Jimmy Q towed me along like the ice trail on the butt end of a comet, through competition, into police training, military special-forces training, simulations and role-playing—the whole world of what we now call tactical shooting.

At lunch one day in his apartment—he and his girlfriend had been teaching a bunch of us to rappel Australian-style off the top of his building—I opined with great conviction that the 1911 was by far the single greatest fighting machine created by man since the Scottish claymore, bar none, period, exclamation point, so there! Jimmy Q listened for a while, then cut me off.

"Hell, Michael," he said. "You're wrong."

He pointed at his beat-up AR-15 leaning against the wall, complete with two 30-round magazines duct-taped together for a quick reload. "That is the best gun in the world," he said with finality. "A gun just like it got me out of the jungle and back to the world, and I'll never be without one." I started the usual litany against the M-16/AR-15—unreliable, inaccurate, plastic, under-powered "poodle shooter," butt-ugly—until Jimmy Q stopped me again.

"Wrong on all counts," he said. "That is the Swiss Army knife of firearms. It'll do just about anything, and do it well." Then, pointing to the beautiful 1911 by his bed, he added, "The only reason I need that is to get me to my rifle."

Well, it took me 25 years to come around, but I have to admit that, yes, Jimmy Q was right all along. The AR-15 carbine, the bastard child of a nasty jungle war halfway around the world, is indeed the Swiss Army knife of firearms. The butt-ugly poodle shooter has morphed into not only the longest-lived battle rifle in history, but in civilian hands a mainstay for competition, self-defense and, most recently, many flavors of hunting. In fact, walking the miles and miles of aisles at the 2007 SHOT (Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade) Show made it clear that "black rifles"—rifles derived from military platforms, like the M-4/M-16, the AK-47, the M-14 and the FN-FAL—not only are the best-selling rifles in America, but are the unequivocal driving force in the industry today.

The numbers are staggering. AR-platform guns are approaching handgun-level sales and may soon surpass even Jeff Cooper's mighty 1911, which has ruled the sales roost in the firearms world for the last two decades.

What's the best-selling ammo in America? Try the .223/5.56, standard fodder for the AR-platform guns. Other top performers? Well, there's the 7.62X39, food for the AK-47 and its hundreds of variants, and, of course, the .308/7.62 NATO, feeding the more traditional "battle rifles" like the M-1A, a hot seller, and the reborn FN-FAL. Last I heard, the best-selling "traditional" hunting caliber on the list was the .45/70, of all things.

Why AR's Shoot So Well
It's fair to ask, What happened? How did ARs get to be the most popular guns in America?

Actually, lots of things happened, and, as usual, they happened a little at a time. First and foremost, AR-platform guns got better…incredibly better. From being the Vietnam War albatross, the AR has matured into one of the most versatile, accurate and easy-to-shoot platforms in the world. ARs own Camp Perry and 600-yard competition; they've helped fuel the huge boom in 3-Gun practical shooting and carbine-precision rifle shoots. Just last year precision-rifle instructor and ace gunsmith Dave Lauck achieved Col. Cooper's equivalent of running the 3-minute mile—the 20-20-20 Challenge. That's putting 20 shots into a 20-inch circle in 20 seconds or less…at 1,000 yards. Lauck achieved this amazing milestone with his own custom-built AR.

There is, of course, a lag time between reality and perception. I mean, I sort of knew that ARs had improved, but it wasn't until I hooked up with John Paul at JP Enterprises a few years ago that I realized how good "good" actually was. Don't spread this around, but John traveled the world as a rock-and-roll keyboardist before he found his true calling, building what might be called the ultimate AR-platform rifles. In fact, his personal "trajectory" is very similar to that of a lot of other people. He comes from a hunting and competitive shooting background and sold his house to open his own gun shop.

"Like many of my contemporaries, I had no time for the M-15/16-type rifles and considered them uncouth, inaccurate and socially unacceptable," he says. "One day, against my better judgment, I took an old AR-15 A-1 by Colt's Mfg. in on trade just to satisfy my personal curiosity. I soon realized that this so-called black rifle was really a diamond in the rough."

The first time I shot one of John's top-end competition guns, it was a revelation. The balance was perfect, the trigger was perfect, it made little bitty groups at long distances seem ridiculously easy—and it came in colors. John's CTR-02s, which use his custom-machined upper/lower receiver sets, can deliver 1⁄4 MOA at 100 yards in the right hands. (Not mine, I assure you!)

Part of the reason for the AR as a born-again target rifle is that military guns are designed from the ground up to be quick to learn and easy to shoot. After all, some hard-as-nails drill instructors are going to have to beat marksmanship into yet another generation of 18-year-olds, and it makes sense that the guns used be as easy to learn as possible. Those ergonomics, coupled with ease of operation, light weight and the negligible recoil from the 5.56 cartridge, make AR-platform guns a blast to shoot. As an instructor, I used to use a Winchester 94 .44 Magnum "Trapper" loaded with .44 Specials for totally new shooters, and I've introduced a lot of newbies to the sport with that gun. No longer. Now I use an AR, one of my three. Newbies take to it like ducks to water. I usually have to pry it out of their hands at the end of the day...


You can read the final three pages at the link.
7/25/2007 10:04:56 AM EDT
[#5]

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Wow, they write one pro AR15 snippet and suddenly they are the greatest magazine on earth.


Did you read the article? There is also a companion article about the gun control tactic of divide and conquer and how ALL gun owners must stick together.

And I don't think anyone here claimed they were the "greatest magazine on earth."


Said article was only written to woo back sorely needed sponsers.

Let 'em pound sand.

Read the first few sentences, that's all I needed.
7/25/2007 10:07:19 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Wow, they write one pro AR15 snippet and suddenly they are the greatest magazine on earth.


Did you read the article? There is also a companion article about the gun control tactic of divide and conquer and how ALL gun owners must stick together.

And I don't think anyone here claimed they were the "greatest magazine on earth."


Said article was only written to woo back sorely needed sponsers.

Let 'em pound sand.

Read the first few sentences, that's all I needed.


In other words, you've made up your mind, and no amount of evvidence will change it.

Congratulations. Here's your sign.
7/25/2007 10:08:31 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow, they write one pro AR15 snippet and suddenly they are the greatest magazine on earth.


Did you read the article? There is also a companion article about the gun control tactic of divide and conquer and how ALL gun owners must stick together.

And I don't think anyone here claimed they were the "greatest magazine on earth."


Said article was only written to woo back sorely needed sponsers.

Let 'em pound sand.

Read the first few sentences, that's all I needed.


what?

the part about coming late to the EBR party?

well fuck me too then cause I never handled an AR till '99

didn't get one till '01
7/25/2007 10:10:39 AM EDT
[#8]

Interesting article, but the replies under it are very telling. How can so many hunters be against a particular weapons platform?

Sure, they think the old bolt-action Remmy is the way to go, but the EBRs have no place in the woods?? Why do people pick manual or automatic trannys in their car? Personal choice. Why do people choose a bolt-action or semi-auto hunting rifle? Personal choice. What could be more American than allowing others the freedom of making their own choice?


ETA - poll results

Online Poll Results:

* Would you hunt with an AR15? 56.5%: Yes
* 43.5%: No

13060 people have responded to this poll.

7/25/2007 2:15:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Just a good read all around on the EBR. Thanks for spotting it.
7/27/2007 10:40:42 AM EDT
[#10]
LOL, just picked up this magazine and found the article.

Good for them.

If we do not hang together, then we will surely hang separately...