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7/13/2007 6:59:01 AM EDT
Does anyone here work with, or have knowledge of web-viewable security cameras?

I need some help on finding products and how to implement them where they could be remotely accessed via the web.

Thanks
7/13/2007 8:12:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Damn you guys!

You give Subnet a hard time about his goofy smile and John Deere hat and now you want his help.

And he's probably gentleman enough to give his time to this problem.

Subnet is a class act, a real gentleman.  He deserves a little respect.

Subnet is an Arfcom icon.
7/13/2007 8:59:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Supercircuits IP Cameras
7/13/2007 9:05:30 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Damn you guys!

You give Subnet a hard time about his goofy smile and John Deere hat and now you want his help.

And he's probably gentleman enough to give his time to this problem.

Subnet is a class act, a real gentleman.  He deserves a little respect.

Subnet is an Arfcom icon.
Oh, I'm still "new" here so the only fun I poke at subnet is during his broadcasts, which I find strangely entertaining.

He seems like a good, knowledgeable person.
7/13/2007 9:07:44 AM EDT
[#4]
You could buy a DVR web enabled gateway to view your cameras.  We use the 1/3" cctv cameras that are hooked into a 16 channel recorder/gateway that then broadcasts over the network.

It can be setup to be viewed from the internet, and is somewhat easily setup.  The included instructions are very good at helping set something like that up.  Many brands offer this type of interface on their DVR equipment.
7/13/2007 9:07:46 AM EDT
[#5]
I use D-Link stuff with great success. It's so easy, even a caveman could do it.

It would kind of help to know a little more about what you had in mind.
7/13/2007 9:09:36 AM EDT
[#6]
broadcasts?
7/13/2007 9:10:16 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Does anyone here work with, or have knowledge of web-viewable security cameras?

I need some help on finding products and how to implement them where they could be remotely accessed via the web.

Thanks


Security cameras can be a tricky subject.

If you just want web viewable cameras so you can see what is going on, there are a number of options.

If you want cameras that can record evidence for use in court proceedings, you have to be a bit more careful about what you buy.
7/13/2007 9:10:19 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Damn you guys!

You give Subnet a hard time about his goofy smile and John Deere hat and now you want his help.

And he's probably gentleman enough to give his time to this problem.

Subnet is a class act, a real gentleman.  He deserves a little respect.

Subnet is an Arfcom icon.


You can get off your knees now...  
7/13/2007 9:10:19 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
You could buy a DVR web enabled gateway to view your cameras.  We use the 1/3" cctv cameras that are hooked into a 16 channel recorder/gateway that then broadcasts over the network.

It can be setup to be viewed from the internet, and is somewhat easily setup.  The included instructions are very good at helping set something like that up.  Many brands offer this type of interface on their DVR equipment.


Actually, this is a fantastic solution. Hmmm.
7/13/2007 9:12:08 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
broadcasts?


Now and then, I'll fire up a live camera. You can see me drive, BBQ, get drunk, shoot stuff, whatever. It's part of my continuing social experiment to see just how bored people are. I once had 60+ people watch me drive to Wal Mart.
7/13/2007 9:13:22 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
broadcasts?


Now and then, I'll fire up a live camera. You can see me drive, BBQ, get drunk, shoot stuff, whatever. It's part of my continuing social experiment to see just how bored people are. I once had 60+ people watch me drive to Wal Mart.


59 of them was the BATF triangulating your coordinates to come burn down your BBQ.
7/13/2007 11:01:43 AM EDT
[#12]
The details given to me (at work) are a little vague.  I guess I could have titled it differently, but its similar to what Subnet is doing.

Broadcast a live image of an area/event for people to view what is going on.  Probably public viewable, but lets just assume it would require a login of sorts, nothing super secure, simple stuff.

Nothing would be used for court issues afaik.


subnet, whens the next "show"
7/13/2007 11:03:33 AM EDT
[#13]

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subnet, whens the next "show"


I *might* drive down to ADCO today, and see if the guys will let me take it in the shop. Ya, I'm kinda bored.
7/13/2007 11:04:14 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
...

subnet, whens the next "show"


Luckily for us all he's canceled his "morning constitutionals" series.  
7/13/2007 11:12:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Try searching for live shot. I believe they are under 500,00 and can transmit to a cell or computer.
7/13/2007 11:15:19 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
The details given to me (at work) are a little vague.  I guess I could have titled it differently, but its similar to what Subnet is doing.

Broadcast a live image of an area/event for people to view what is going on.  Probably public viewable, but lets just assume it would require a login of sorts, nothing super secure, simple stuff.

Nothing would be used for court issues afaik.



If you just want to broadcast stuff, then the D-Link cameras work pretty well.  You can setup a webpage that users have to input a UN & PW to get access to the live feed.

Now if you want to record and have web access, I would recommend you taking a look at the gear that ADT offers.  I use their DVR's in 11 locations of mine and have never had a problem.  A lot of flexibility and their user software is real simple to use.  Also, their built in burners also place a watermark on the media so it can be used in court if needed.  Here's a link to their site (they do offer more products than what’s listed).
7/13/2007 11:37:58 AM EDT
[#17]
I'm curious, what is different about cameras/recorders that can be used for evidence in court?

I can't figure out what a watermark does in that kind of situation.
(anyone could add a watermark to video)
7/13/2007 11:49:36 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The details given to me (at work) are a little vague.  I guess I could have titled it differently, but its similar to what Subnet is doing.

Broadcast a live image of an area/event for people to view what is going on.  Probably public viewable, but lets just assume it would require a login of sorts, nothing super secure, simple stuff.

Nothing would be used for court issues afaik.



If you just want to broadcast stuff, then the D-Link cameras work pretty well.  You can setup a webpage that users have to input a UN & PW to get access to the live feed.

Now if you want to record and have web access, I would recommend you taking a look at the gear that ADT offers.  I use their DVR's in 11 locations of mine and have never had a problem.  A lot of flexibility and their user software is real simple to use.  Also, their built in burners also place a watermark on the media so it can be used in court if needed.  Here's a link to their site (they do offer more products than what’s listed).


any info on the d-link stuff, links and such would be nice.

thanks to everyone so far!
7/13/2007 11:54:27 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
any info on the d-link stuff, links and such would be nice.

thanks to everyone so far!


Just browse their site. I you want to have more than 5-10 people viewing the camera at the same time, you'll need to look into another solution (like Windows Media Server and a leased server, like I do). Setting it up isn't "plug and play", though by a long shot.
7/13/2007 12:25:13 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I'm curious, what is different about cameras/recorders that can be used for evidence in court?

I can't figure out what a watermark does in that kind of situation.
(anyone could add a watermark to video)


A watermark on the cd that shows that dvr actually recorded the video and wasn't tampered with after it left the dvr.  The ADT models also encrypt the video file to further enhance its credibility.

If your dvr doesn't have either, then its credibility will likely be questioned.
7/13/2007 12:27:37 PM EDT
[#21]
Saltydog does this stuff
7/13/2007 12:35:11 PM EDT
[#22]
i use one of these:
www.axis.com/products/cam_213/index.htm
Pan, tilt, zoom live video directly over your network
The AXIS 213 PTZ Network Camera enables advanced remote monitoring with pan, tilt and zoom through operator control* from any PC connected to the local area network or the Internet.

to do this:

www9.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/wildcamafrica/
The camera supports ~25 connected users to its built in webserver.

To support a world wide audience of up to 3000 connections,
We routed the signal to Real Networks Server Farm.
7/13/2007 12:45:57 PM EDT
[#23]

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A watermark on the cd that shows that dvr actually recorded the video and wasn't tampered with after it left the dvr.  The ADT models also encrypt the video file to further enhance its credibility.

If your dvr doesn't have either, then its credibility will likely be questioned.


Bingo.

Companies like Ademco build their camera systems to be sufficient to serve as evidence in court and to my knowledge the veracity of one of their camera systems has never been challenged successfully by a defense attorney.

On systems like theirs you can document everything pretty much beyond question.

Video that doesn't rise to that level is still useful, as bad guys often confess after seeing themselves on camera even if it isn't an encrypted watermarked video.

Our Ademco Rapid-Eye system has never been challenged by a defense attorney because once the investigators sat down and started playing the video which clearly identifies them and shows what they were doing they have all admitted to everything right then and there.