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7/2/2007 8:12:28 AM EDT
This will be an ongoing study of liberals in general, with a few specific examples. Feel free to discuss or contribute however you see fit, but remember that this is a SCIENTIFIC STUDY OF WHAT MAKE'S LIBERALS TICK, not a thread for bashing them. The bashing threads are every other thread on Arfcom, minus the one about TRG's persistent rash.

Okay, let's kick it off:



What characteristics define a 'liberal' as such?

'Progressive': Self-applied descriptor. Almost always a code-word for communist or socialist. The use of the term progressive is particularly interesting; what is it that they actually see themselves as progressing towards, and why is it necessarily a GOOD thing to progress toward it?

Government control: Liberals have an overwhelming tendency to prefer a bigger, more powerful government capable of meddling in every aspect of life in the US. In fact, it would be fair to say that if you do NOT want big government, then you're probably not a liberal. Liberals have gone so far as to perform a coupe in our education system in order to indoctrinate future generations and make them more dependent on the government. The liberal mindset seems to have replaced God with the government, to use the best analogy I can come up with. It doesn't matter if the government does something less efficiently and abuses its power, as far as the liberal is concerned, ONLY the government should be able to make decisions.

Hypocrisy: Liberals are overwhelmingly hypocritical. Feinstein works daily to deprive Americans of their right to own firearms, and yet she carries a gun in her purse and has machinegun-wielding bodyguards. Several key leaders in Handgun Control Incorporated, the Million Moms, the Brady Bunch, and other anti-gun organizations have been arrested for illegal possession of a firearm or using a firearm in relation to other illegal activities. Certain elected politicians will rant loudly about conservatives (real and so-called) profiting off of big business, and yet they have no qualms about giving military contracts to companies that they own, thereby giving them millions or billions in profit. Marchers at 'peace' rallies and anti-war demonstrations nearly always become violent when confronted by counter-protestors, in many cases assaulting or pushing counter-protestors into traffic. Liberals claim to promote diversity and tolerance, and yet strive to censor or even persecute people for simply disagreeing with them. Al Gore spouts drivel about global warming and pollution, yet just ONE of his several homes puts out HOW MANY times more pollution than an ordinary American household? How many times does he fly all over the world in his private jet?

Communism/socialism: The vast majority of liberals are, to some extent, communist or socialist in their ideals. Some are actual, blatant communists, most at least lean that way, and a few claim to be while not actually having any idea what communism/socialism is about, but they think capitalism is bad because so-and-so said it was. They love taking other people's money by gunpoint (taxes) and giving it to other people. Usually these other people aren't people who just got fired, are in danger of losing the house, etc. and need a little assistance while they try to find another way to support their family; they're career couch potatoes who spend most of their time snorting crack, watching daytime television, and bitching about the quality of their free apartment. For some reason, liberals seem to think it's a really great idea to steal money from hard-working citizens who contribute and give it to ungrateful bums who never did anything productive in their lives. Most liberals are indoctrinated at an early age thanks to liberal teachers or college professors; this means that the majority of young liberals are only liberals because they're confused. The children of rich businessmen will wear t-shirts with a mass-murderer on them and claim that communism is the only fair form of government/economy while perceiving no irony in their actions.

Unfamiliarity with reality: Most liberals live in a form of denial. They don't like the real world. They don't want to live in the real world. They would much rather live in a make-believe world where everything goes their way. If they don't convince themselves that they DO live in this make-believe world already, they will strive to make this 'utopia' come about for real. Most, upon being rudely awakened by reality, will express outrage, indignation, and a profound sense of hurt that the world would be so cruel as to shatter their illusions.

Paranoia: Many liberals are rabidly paranoid. What's more, they enjoy projecting this paranoia on others, likely as a subconcious defense mechanism. Some of their paranoia is actually just a lame attempt at finding a scapegoat for why their lofty plans nearly always fail spectacularly, but much of it is genuine. If you think I'm kidding about their paranoia, repeat after me: "vast right-wing conspiracy". The CIA blew up the WTC and there were no terrorists in hijacked airliners; you can tell because I poured lighter fluid on chicken wire and it didn't melt or explode. Haliburton is responsible for all evil in the world, even though I never even heard of it until about three years ago. Zionists/creationists are everywhere and they seek to censor and persecute us, so we should censor and persecute them to avoid the threat they pose to us. If you fear what a socialist government will do, then you must be paranoid (again, ignoring harsh reality- how many socialist/communist governments HAVEN'T committed genocide or become oppressive police states?). If everybody owned guns, then my neighbor might shoot me because he had a bad day (projecting their own fear of their own irresponsible behavior on others to excuse their not wanting guns).

Nanny knows best: The easiest way to tell if someone is a liberal is to find out how much they want to meddle in your business. Liberals absolutely live for telling other people to do things. It doesn't matter if they have no idea what they're talking about; they know what's good for you better than you do. You could be an environmental engineer and they could be a florist, but don't you dare disagree with their preconstructed views of environmentalism; after all, they know better. Liberals are always seeking ways to take responsibility away from the individual and place the government in charge of every aspect of daily life. Don't you dare protect your life from a criminal by using a gun; let the professionals handle it (an hour after you call for help so they can come draw the little chalk outline before hitting the donut shop). Don't you dare decide how to spend the income you earned at your job; the government will take your money and distribute it fairly to everybody else.

Anger/hatred: Most liberals are, at some level, angry. It's incredibly easy to tweak a liberal's nerves. Usually it takes just a t-shirt slogan, bumper sticker, or sentence in a conversation they're not even part of to set them off on a screeching diatribe. Many liberals are consumed by their anger, existing for nothing more than lashing out at what they perceive to be the cause of that anger. While they claim to be the tolerant, understanding sort, they are more often filled with hatred of anyone who does not conform to their ideals. They hate the nation that gives them the conveniences and liberties they enjoy so much, they hate the people and ideals that made this nation the best in the world, and many of them even hate themselves. If we could understand the source of their anger and loathing, self- or otherwise, it would go a long way to understanding what makes a liberal tick. Possible cause for the anger: they don't get their way, so they throw a temper tantrum like a three year old. In fact, immaturity is a major hallmark of liberals, so this could be a better explanation than I realized.

Ego: Most liberals have a major superiority complex. Some have an inferiority complex, and they're almost always the most bitter and hateful of the bunch. But the majority see themselves as superior. Nazis called themselves the ubermenchen and everybody else inferior subhumans. Nazis were socialists. Liberals call themselves enlightened and more intelligent, and nearly always refer to non-liberals with derogatory terms, like 'redneck', 'stooges', 'little people', or 'unwashed masses'. Liberals are socialists. At the risk of invoking a certain internet rule, I'm going on record to say that this is probably not a coincidence. But in any case, they nearly always see themselves as being better human beings than anybody else. They're smarter than you, they have more common sense than you, and they know everything there is to know about everything so you should just shut up and do what you're told, peasant. How much of this ego is genuine and how much of it is just to make up for the self-loathing and low esteem they possess?

Racism: This one is a landmine. Many liberals are blatantly racist. Most gun control laws in the 1960's were started by liberals, for the same purpose as the gun control laws of the 1860's: to keep black people from owning guns. Welfare panders primarily to non-whites, keeping them in the ghetto and safely out of politics and the fancy, up-scale neighborhoods liberals prefer to live in. Affirmative action doesn't give non-whites an equal opportunity; it tells them that they're not good enough to get by on their own and they need special help to do the same things as whites. Equal-opportunity employment was fine when you simply couldn't refuse to hire someone based solely on their race; when quotas were established so that you HAD to hire people of certain races to avoid getting fined, that just made it blatantly racist. If your company has seven employees and you need at least thirty percent of employees to be non-white, but the only people applying at your company that are qualified for the job are white, what are you supposed to do? Hire the qualified white people and get punished, or hire somebody who isn't qualified just because he's black? If I hired someone who was unqualified for the position I was hiring for because he was WHITE, I'd be called a racist and punished in a major media circus. Why is it okay to do it the other way around? Even more bizarrely, this racism goes both ways. Officially, liberals love non-whites (I refuse to call them minorities because they're NOT minorities; maybe there are fewer black people in the US than elsewhere, but why aren't whites considered a minority when they are fewer of them in Africa? Everybody is a minority somewhere and a majority somewhere else, so let's just call it like it is.) and will rant long and hard about how much they care for them, but actions speak louder than words and the actions of the liberal leadership all say that they'd rather die than live in a world run by the inferior subhuman 'muds'. In keeping with their official stance rather than their genuine one (there's that hypocrisy again), liberals will do everything they can to punish people simply for being born white. You can get special benefits solely for the genetic accident of not being descended from European ancestry. I have to pay more for my college tuition than my friend that immigrated from Japan or my former room mate that was black, based solely on the color of my skin. Tell me that's not racism. And of course, liberals preach long and hard about how anybody who disagrees with them is racist. If you're a conservative, you're racist, because the majority of conservatives are white (you know, like the majority of people in this nation). If you're a gun owner, you're racist. Nevermind that there is absolutely no relation between owning a gun and being racist (or being a particular race, for that matter), you're racist because they say so. If you dislike millions of criminals illegally invading the country and living parasitically off of your achievements, then you're racist. Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal. Once again, they project their own failings on others in order to feel better about themselves.

More to come later.
7/2/2007 8:15:17 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't think I can contribute to this thread. I will start breaking the CoC and likely, my keyboard.

Liberals make me angry.
7/2/2007 8:17:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Liberals.........so very, very few.






T
7/2/2007 8:18:54 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Liberals.........so very, very few.






T


Or:


Liberals, the loud, the ignorant, the few !!




T
7/2/2007 8:24:16 AM EDT
[#4]

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...............Hypocrisy: Liberals are overwhelmingly hypocritical. Feinstein works daily to deprive Americans of their right to own firearms, and yet she carries a gun in her purse and has machinegun-wielding bodyguards. ..........................


Unless it has been changed, call Feinstein's office and ask them what the minimum wage is increasing to in American Samoa (aka StarKistia).
7/2/2007 8:25:11 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I don't think I can contribute to this thread. I will start breaking the CoC and likely, my keyboard.

Liberals make me angry.


+1, and we all know how expensive Macs are, so I don't want to break mine, either.
7/2/2007 8:28:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Cliff Notes Version:  

Every person has two sides, the civilized side they show to the public, and their true nature (usually darker) which represents how they would behave absent any restraint.  The liberal is basically a fool who, either from a natural naiveté or as a consequence of a very sheltered life, believes that the civilized side is all there is.  So when someone comes by and promises to rule them benevolently, they fall for it.
7/2/2007 8:33:42 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Cliff Notes Version:  

Every person has two sides, the civilized side they show to the public, and their true nature (usually darker) which represents how they would behave absent any restraint.  The liberal is basically a fool who, either from a natural naiveté or as a consequence of a very sheltered life, believes that the civilized side is all there is.  So when someone comes by and promises to rule them benevolently, they fall for it.


Remember the phrase, "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"? Liberals don't.
7/2/2007 8:43:01 AM EDT
[#8]
I think you need to mention something about a propensity for mental illness. Being a college student, I am often forced to interact with these knuckleheads. Every single liberal that I have ever talked to had some sort of mental illness, which was usually a deep seated self-loathing, depression, or anxiety. All of them were on antidepressants or antianxiety meds and all of them have been spinning around in the therapy blender for a minimum of 5 years. It may sound strange, but they all seem so totally devoid of any happiness and joy, that I kind of understand why so many liberals commit suicide...
7/2/2007 8:46:47 AM EDT
[#9]

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..............so totally devoid......


"Devoid" is at least a semi medical term.  Would be interesting to some informed  analysis.



T

Example:  To the best of my knowledge ALL serial killers are 'devoids'.  HOWEVER, not nearly all devoids are serial killers.
7/2/2007 8:47:00 AM EDT
[#10]
Pretty darn good analysis.  
7/2/2007 8:54:24 AM EDT
[#11]
tag
7/2/2007 8:57:25 AM EDT
[#12]
I will be emailing this to my friends who are sympathetic to liberal intentions.
7/2/2007 9:08:26 AM EDT
[#13]
I think humans have a natural desire for there to be a "higher power" in the universe. Most normal people go to church. Liberals think religion is too old-fashioned for modern "progressives" but they still have this instinctive need. So they worship THE GOVERNMENT. That's why they want THE GOVERNMENT to solve all problems for them and take care of everyone - they think of it like a god.

Think about how they reacted after Katrina. Many of them were pissed off because THE GOVERNMENT allowed a hurricane to hit New Orleans. In fact, the evil George Bush directed the forces of nature to hit the downtrodden areas because he doesn't like black people. Since the GOVERNMENT is all-powerful, it will instantly fix everything unless the evil Republicans interfere.

Since the Church of the Government is only about 100 years old, it is not a very stable religion. It's like Christianity in the middle ages. They are completely intolerant of non-believers. Heretics are evil. There is a duty to educate the heathens and convert them to the one true religion. The tenets of their faith cannot be questioned. It's not corruption if done by their leaders in the name of the religion.
7/2/2007 9:13:20 AM EDT
[#14]
Liberalism we see today is considered "post-industrial liberalism".

Many people withdrew support from lassie faire economics after the widely publicized worker abuses stemming from the American industrial revolution (see Anthracite Coal Miners).  To many people, it appeared that only government intervention could correct such abuses.

Similarly, government intervention also seemed as the only solution to Southern racism of the 1950's.

There is some element of truth to the claim that government intervention is needed.  Communists were happy to exploit these instances.

The greatest boost to "post-industrial liberalism" was WW2.  

The economic expansion from war production was the biggest stoke of luck "liberals" have ever received.  If Theodore Roosevelt's economic ideas were allowed to fail, we would not have the big government liberals we have today.    WW2 provided a convenient way to omit Roosevelt's economic failure from the history books.  

1920's socialism and economic intervention was considered a success by media pundits, left leaning educators, and communists.  History books are full of praise for Roosevelt's policies, when in actuality American socialism was snatched from the rubbish bin and placed on the coat tails of WW2 victory.

Unfortunately, today's liberals think that if government control is a good thing, surely more of a good thing can only be better.
7/2/2007 9:14:48 AM EDT
[#15]
Looks like a top notch analysis to me.

This should be widely distributed.
7/2/2007 9:16:45 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I think you need to mention something about a propensity for mental illness. Being a college student, I am often forced to interact with these knuckleheads. Every single liberal that I have ever talked to had some sort of mental illness, which was usually a deep seated self-loathing, depression, or anxiety. All of them were on antidepressants or antianxiety meds and all of them have been spinning around in the therapy blender for a minimum of 5 years. It may sound strange, but they all seem so totally devoid of any happiness and joy, that I kind of understand why so many liberals commit suicide...


 Not enough 'liberals' commit suicide.  I wonder what can be done to encourage that trend.  'liberals' are incompatable with a free society.  

 BTW the reason I say 'liberals' is because most people that describe themselves as 'liberals' aren't liberal at all.  They are leftists: communists, socialists. fascists, progressives or just plain welfare parasites.  A liberal is a good thing a leftist isn't.  
7/2/2007 9:18:18 AM EDT
[#17]
Most of my political science profs in college were of the opinion that the Soviet Union failed not because of communism, but because they were not the ideal environment for it to prosper.

They believed that you needed a well developed and stable capitalist economy that could develop into a communist one for it to work.  The profs believed that we need a progression from capitalism to socialism and then to communism to achieve the utopia they believe can exist.

Of course, we all know that the human condition is the variable here that makes communism unworkable, but liberals live in their dream world where everyone can live with shared prosperity.  

7/2/2007 9:32:42 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:




..............so totally devoid......


"Devoid" is at least a semi medical term.  Would be interesting to some informed  analysis.



T

Example:  To the best of my knowledge ALL serial killers are 'devoids'.  HOWEVER, not nearly all devoids are serial killers.


Actually, it was being used as an adjective:

from:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devoid


de·void(d-void)
adj.
Completely lacking; destitute or empty: a novel devoid of wit and inventiveness.


7/2/2007 9:47:24 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:




..............so totally devoid......


"Devoid" is at least a semi medical term.  Would be interesting to some informed  analysis.



T

Example:  To the best of my knowledge ALL serial killers are 'devoids'.  HOWEVER, not nearly all devoids are serial killers.


Actually, it was being used as an adjective:

from:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devoid


de·void(d-void)
adj.
Completely lacking; destitute or empty: a novel devoid of wit and inventiveness.




Devoid in this usage is a person devoid (empty) of emotions.  This person is usually pretty bright and has had a lifetime of fitting in.  Will laugh a split second later than the group as he must take his cue from the group.

A  devoid of the serial killer type will feel human emotions during the kill........maybe for the first time.  The killer can go back to the scene and get some satisfaction from the visits although that satisfaction diminishes over time and then it's time to kill again.

I GROAN every time the media says something like:  'And he showed no remorse.....'  The poor sick son of a bitch CANNOT show remorse (emotion) as he has none !



T

7/2/2007 10:07:32 AM EDT
[#20]
I don't like using "Liberal" to describe modern Democrats and progressives. There is nothing liberal about their thinking.
7/2/2007 10:37:10 AM EDT
[#21]
The classical liberal considers the liberty of the individual paramount, and places the individual freedoms above the freedoms of society at large.

A liberal is for free markets, free supply of labor, as little governmental intervention as possible.

It is a shame that those who condem liberals are condeming the socialists and comunists that have invaded the democratic party and process. These socialists and comunists are not liberal in any sense other than they are left of the classical conservative. The true liberal is nothing a true conservative would dislike nor distrust.
7/2/2007 7:56:10 PM EDT
[#22]
Progressivism has virtually nothing to do with classical Liberalism.  Modern Democrats are basically Progressives filtered through a lens of corruption and filth.


The basic tenet of classical Liberalism is the idea of freedom and equality.  Most of us here are some flavor of classical Liberalism.  (And if you think "classical" has a relationship to "conservative" by way of sticking with good things that work, gold star!)  Classical Liberalism drove the American Revolution, and is encoded in our Constitution.

Progressivism suggests that there is a scientifically optimizable solution to each of the problems of society.  It's an idea that grew up in the very early 20th Century, and at it's root has the idea that if there's going to be an optimal solution, that all other solutions had to be swept away.
7/2/2007 8:08:03 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't like using "Liberal" to describe modern Democrats and progressives. There is nothing liberal about their thinking.


A classic example of the old adage: if you want something to gain popularity then give it a good-sounding (though not necessarily accurate) name.  If you want the opposite effect, then give it a bad-sounding (and again, not necessarily accurate) name.


There was once a political party that named itself "Majority" even though they represented less than 10% of the population.  They were called the Bolsheviks.  It worked out pretty well for them...
7/6/2007 9:46:15 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't like using "Liberal" to describe modern Democrats and progressives. There is nothing liberal about their thinking.


A classic example of the old adage: if you want something to gain popularity then give it a good-sounding (though not necessarily accurate) name.  If you want the opposite effect, then give it a bad-sounding (and again, not necessarily accurate) name.


There was once a political party that named itself "Majority" even though they represented less than 10% of the population.  They were called the Bolsheviks.  It worked out pretty well for them...


Nazis were a minority party until they took over too, the suddenly everybody wanted to be a nazi.
7/8/2007 11:57:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Continuing my analysis of liberals:


Addendum to the racism one: When a black politician switched from the Democratic party to the Republican party, thousands of liberals called him an Uncle Tom and threw Oreo cookies at him to show that he was white on the inside. Tell me that's not racist.

Violence: Listen to a liberal whine some time. If they're not whining about the environment that they only care about within the context of their pseudoscience religion, then they're whining about world peace. Liberals are always having a demonstration somewhere that is anti-war, anti-military, anti-gun, anti-self-defense, etc. If you listen to liberals, then according to them, nobody should hurt anyone, there is never a legitimate reason to go to war, and if we got rid of guns then we would all love each other and give lots of hugs. You know, like we did for thousands of years before guns were invented and we were killing each other with blunt objects or instruments of pointy death. Regardless, listening to liberals, it's clear that they abhor violence in any form, even going so far as to claim moral superiority for being raped and murdered rather than a harm criminal attacking them. Except there's that hypocrisy again: liberals only care if YOU are the one attacking violently, whether it's justified or not. Go to an anti-war protest and counter-protest with your own sign and shouted slogans. Chances are, your sign will be ripped apart, you will be violently assaulted by one or more liberals, or one of them will actually push you in front of a car. It's happened a LOT. And all because the counter-protestors had a difference of opinion. "Do as I say, not as I do". You'll notice that the majority of anti-gun organizations are equally hypocritical. Several members of Handgun Control Inc., the Brady Bunch, and the Million Moms have been arrested and even sentenced to prison for possession of an illegal firearm. All the anti-gun legislators have multiple bodyguards with machine guns that follow them everywhere, and Feinstein carries a revolver in her purse. In fact, for many years, she carried that revolver ILLEGALLY, until word got out about her hypocrisy; then she used her powerful position to get a permit to carry the gun legally, a permit which you or I wouldn't be able to get without major political connections. And the AK-47 and .50-cal rifle she's always toting around at her anti-gun rallies? Those are hers too. Liberals always whine about corporations testing their products on animals to see if they're safe for use on human beings; it's wrong to torment those poor, innocent animals. So they throw paint and even BLOOD on people working for those corporations, typically people who have nothing to do with animal research. And where are they getting that blood? What is it contaminated with? Would they like it if somebody threw a disgusting, staining fluid that may or may not be riddled with disease on them? Probably not. Gun owners using their guns to defend their lives is bad, but it's perfectly okay for those gun owners to be killed by government agents if they resist having their lawfully-owned guns taken away. Remember folks, violence is always bad- unless you're a liberal.

Big Brother: Liberals love the U.N. If they could get their way, the U.N. would be the ultimate authority in the world. Nevermind that it's one of the most corrupt organizations in the world, legitimizes third-world dictators who practice genocide and ethnic cleansing, and is utterly ineffective at ANY of the things it was intended to do; to liberals, the U.N. can do no wrong. Why is this? Liberals have replaced God with government, and the U.N. is the biggest government there is. So, naturally, liberals will worship it wholeheartedly. It doesn't matter that the U.N. is incompetent and corrupt; it's big government and it's the closest thing liberals can find to their dream of a one-world socialist order. Again, referring to hypocrisy and violence, all violence is wrong- unless it's the U.N. doing it. The United States is wrong for deposing a genocidal dictator who oppressed his people and wrong for preventing mass-murdering terrorists from preying on others, but the U.N. is perfectly justified for going into Africa and getting thousands killed for no reason other than to assert their authority. Bush is evil for getting American soldiers killed (which, if you really listen to liberals, isn't a problem to them- in fact, they often CHEER when US troops get killed) and bringing war to another country; Clinton is Jesus for getting US troops killed and bringing war to another country. Remember folks, violence is always bad- unless you're a liberal. And the U.N. is the biggest liberal there is.
7/8/2007 12:04:33 PM EDT
[#26]
I'll tell you one thing. FDR would never have been the pacifist pansy the liberals embody today. I think John F. Kennedy would just shake his head at Teddy Kennedy today too.

Libs (and by default Democrats) have gone waaaaaaaay out on the perch in the last thirty years.
7/8/2007 12:08:46 PM EDT
[#27]
7/8/2007 1:29:40 PM EDT
[#28]
Religion: Liberals worship government. Many of them, especially out in California, follow new-age feel-good religions or practice paganism. Of course, their version of paganism, supposedly the same as what heathens (such as druids) followed thousands of years ago, is nothing like the real deal and generally involves spending a lot of money on quartz crystals, fake dream catchers, and incense. And I think the incense is more to cover up the smell of all the weed they've been smoking. If they follow a religion besides government and evolution, it's one that makes them feel good; as we've seen, liberals are big on emotion but small on logic. It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make them feel good. In any case, liberals claim to be for freedom of religion, but that just isn't true. Liberals are always whining about Christians and how evil they are, and most liberal rallies and demonstrations are hotbeds of anti-semitism. Okay, so they hate Christians and Jews. But you always see liberals defending Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, and other religions. Why is that? Well, there's a couple reasons. Liberals hate Christians and Jews because Christians tend to be conservative and opposed to many liberal pet projects, and Jews are the red-headed stepchild of the world- everybody loves to blame everything on the Jews. But why do they like other religions? Well, honestly, they don't. They hate them too. But they love to claim to support those other religions because- and this is where racism comes in- those religions are followed primarily by UNPOPULAR BROWN PEOPLE. That's right. It's all about racism again, and not a particular religion. Liberals love religions followed by non-white people halfway across the world, and if the US goes to war with people who follow that religion (or at least a country where some of the people do), then the US is evil and persecuting that religion. They don't care about the religion; they do care about looking like they like non-white people. It gets them sympathy. Islam is even more popular with liberals now because not only is it a religion predominantly followed by non-white people, but a great many muslims hate the US, hate capitalism, hate Christianity, and hate Jews. Hey, those are the same things liberals hate! So while liberals are having a field day with their brown-people-religion and thinking 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', the Islamic extremists are using liberals as useful idiots and thinking 'the enemy of my enemy dies next'. Once again, liberals let racism, hypocrisy, emotion, anger/hatred, and short-sightedness get in their way.

Bias/freedom of speech: Going with the liberal persecution complex/love of victim groups, there's of course, the media. Nearly every major television network is owned by, run by, and staffed by, liberals. Just about every news network has an obvious leftist bias. Most newspapers have a leftist bias. About the only forms of communication liberals don't have a monopoly on is radio and the internet. So, naturally, liberals claim a right-wing bias in the media and do their best to shut down right-wing talk radio. The internet doesn't HAVE a bias, but the leftists don't control it, so they constantly introduce legislation that WOULD give them control over the internet; every few months, a new bill gets introduced that would let liberals decide what would be allowed on the internet (the biggest free-speech in the world) or to hand control of the internet, mostly based in the US, to the U.N. so Big Brother can screw it up with similarly heavy-handed despotism. Personal blogs that espouse conservative or right-wing ideology? Gone. Online gun dealers? Gone. Conservative websites and independent news agencies? Gone. Liberals have also shrilly been calling for censorship of Christians, gun-owners, and conservatives in EVERY format- if you aren't a socialist, athiest, member of the Progressive New World Order, then you don't get the right to speak your mind. And yet they screech and throw tantrums if they aren't allowed to hold naked parades, burn flags, invade soldier's funerals, and call for the death of their own nation. Which we let them do on a regular basis anyway. Gotta love that double standard.

Drugs: Liberals are big on the war on drugs. They love drug-free school zones, which are about as effective as gun-free zones- that is to say, not at all. Of course, that hypocrisy rears its ugly head again because a great many liberals use drugs. I defy you to think of a hippy who hasn't smoked marijuana or peyote at least once in his life. And a great many more use drugs such as cocaine, LSD, heroin, meth, etc. This isn't to say that all liberals use drugs; far from it. But a great many drug users will consistently vote for liberal candidates, because liberals are the ones who are constantly punishing the law-abiding and giving a free pass to criminals, or passing out free handouts to every bum on the planet. Welfare bums live off of the achievements of others, and consume their lives with alcohol, cigarettes, and illegal drugs. They will always vote for liberal candidates, because they know it's the liberals that continue giving them their free handouts. Huxley's Brave New World had the government passing out narcotics to the populace to keep them in line; liberals are a little more subtle in that while they are officially against drugs, they continue to support the habits of drug addicts with their policies, all so they have an under-class that will continue to vote for them. O brave new world, that has such people in it.

New Speak: Orwell introduced New Speak in his book 1984. The purpose of New Speak was, over an extended period of time, render language meaningless so that dissidents were not only forbidden from speaking against the government, but incapable of communicating dissident at all. New slang was made up to deteriorate the use of proper language, the meaning of words was constantly changing, labels that made bad things sound good and good things sound bad were applied judiciously, etc. Liberals do this on a daily basis. They apply good-sounding labels such as 'progressive' to themselves and their agendas, and evil-sounding labels such as 'assault rifle' or 'neo-con' to things they disagree with. They promote illiteracy and a poor grasp of science, history, etc. by forcing schools to focus more on propoganda and indoctrination of liberal ideals than actual education, they constantly advance children who do not know enough to graduate to the next grade level "to help their self-esteem" (so the lazy don't feel stupid, in other words), and they constantly gloss over science, mathematics, and especially history so that they can feed the new generations their own psuedoscientific garbage without being questioned. If they don't skip it entirely, they will rewrite history to fit their purposes. The south fought for slavery, not for the right of states to decide things for themselves. The war of Texan independence wasn't fought because Mexico was violating contracts with its citizens and confiscating their land, it was fought because Mexico out-lawed slavery. The US dropped atomic bombs on Japan not because doing so would end the war quickly and with far fewer casualties, but because the US is racist and would never have dropped the bomb on a white nation like Germany. You see where this is going. This doesn't even get into the blatantly false 'economics' they teach where capitalism is evil and exploitive, but communism makes everybody happy and prosperous. Of course, you'll notice that they never invite someone from Cuba, China, Russia, or North Korea who actually lived in a communist regime to tell the class what life is really like in such a liberal utopia. Liberals perpetuate the dilution of language further by encouraging ebonics, or thug-speak, once again using it as an example of how much they love non-white people. They also force others to bend over backwards to accomodate the millions of illegals invading the country; if you don't learn to speak the foreign language that those illegals speak, then you get punished. Teachers are required to speak spanish, stores must put signs up in spanish, and there is no requirement for anyone to speak english, the actual language of the United States. This agenda is far more destructive than it appears, and is going to lead to major problems in the future.

Failure to learn from failure: Liberal policies nearly always fail or make things worse than they were to begin with. How many times do you hear liberals, upon being confronted by the fact that EVERY attempt to establish a communist/socialist regime has resulted in oppression, genocide, and the collapse of that nation's standard of living, say that communism works, it just needs to be implemented by the right people? If something fails spectacularly every single time it's tried, I don't think it's the individuals implementing it that are the problem. Numerous other liberal programs, such as welfare, education programs, etc. consistently fail as well. Whereas rational people would conclude that something else should be tried, a liberal's conclusion would be to try again, but spend more money on it and make it even more unworkable. Either they are too stupid to recognize simple patterns of success and failure, or they're all insane.

Sacrifice: Liberals are all about sacrificing for the greater good. Of course, when you examine what they're talking about closely, it becomes obvious that YOU are the one who must sacrifice, not them. Liberals love taxes; they love them because then they get more money to waste on things that never work. Who pays those taxes? You do. Liberals will take your money from you at gunpoint so that they can spend it. Of course, a number of liberals refuse to pay taxes at all, and the wealthy liberals are constantly finding ways to dodge tax increases or make tax shelters for their money. It's nice to know that when they talk about sacrificing for the greater good, they only mean you and not them. They talk about sacrificing cars that are affordable and suit your purposes exactly for obscenely expensive cars that run on inefficient alternate fuels, while driving SUV's and luxury cars themselves. Of course, they can't be expected to give up their cars, right? Al Gore has established himself as Intergalactic Pope of the Religion of Global Warming and constantly tells the nation that they must sacrifice their lifestyles in order to prevent pollution that leads to psuedoscience global warming, and yet he owns several houses, any one of which put out more pollution and heat than the vast majority of American homes, and if it takes more than an hour to drive somewhere, he takes his private jet. Of course, he's too important to make the same sacrifices that you must make for the greater good, you see. Why is it that any time a liberal speaks of sacrifice, you're the one who must make that sacrifice, and why is that any time a liberal speaks of the greater good, that greater good serves them almost exclusively?
7/9/2007 1:16:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Mudslinging: To hear a liberal tell it, they are purer than fresh snow on a nativity scene. Of course, they don't want anything to do with a nativity scene, but whatever. Liberals always give themselves a halo of righteousness. No matter what they do, it's always For The Greater Good(Tm) or For The Children(Tm). Everything a liberal does is automatically good, because they are morally superior and know what you need better than you do. Of course, liberals are always eager to point out the flaws in everyone that isn't a liberal, even if they have to make those flaws up. No matter who the public figure is, if they aren't a liberal, then there's a mob of liberals gleefully digging up dirt on him to make him look bad. And if they have to invent dirt in order to make him look bad, well, the ends justify the means. And of course, since it's LIBERALS doing this, you know the ends are perfectly justifiable too. Again, I'll reference when a certain black politician switched from the Democratic party to the Republican party and they threw Oreo cookies at him to signify that he was white on the inside. Or the current smear campaign liberals are running against Fred Thompson, wherein nearly everything bad they have to say about Fred is purely imaginary. Of course, they can't even come up with ORIGINAL mud to sling at the people they view as their enemies; just Bush, Fred is simultaneously portrayed as a clueless moron and an evil mastermind; the liberal mind can perceive no irony in this contradiction. Suffice to say, if it isn't a liberal, then liberals are going to attack it, viciously.

Whining: This constitutes the majority of any given liberal's activity on a day to day basis. Cindy Sheehan became famous for doing nothing more than whine in front of a camera. Liberals are always throwing protests or demonstrations where they complain about something, usually something they don't even fully understand. Immaturity and emotionalism being hallmarks of liberals, it makes sense that they should be constant whiners as well. When was the last time you heard a liberal actually come up with a way to improve something instead of complaining about it? They're not interested in actually fixing a problem, if one even exists, they just want something they can whine and moan about. It's probably because of their overwhelming need for attention from the grown-ups of the world... non-liberals.

7/10/2007 4:37:41 PM EDT
[#30]
Anybody care to point out anything that I've missed so far?
8/12/2007 7:00:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Liberals are situational ethicists.

They have no concept of absolute right and wrong.  
Whatever truth serves their purpose for the moment is "right".
8/13/2007 10:20:23 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Liberals are situational ethicists.

They have no concept of absolute right and wrong.  
Whatever truth serves their purpose for the moment is "right".


Indeed, which is part of their hypocricy.
8/13/2007 11:26:11 AM EDT
[#33]
Puritanical – Liberals don’t exactly hold the same values as the Puritans did, but they have the same attitude about their values. Liberals tend to believe that everyone who disagrees with their particular value system is evil instead of just wrong.
8/13/2007 12:35:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Government control: Liberals have an overwhelming tendency to prefer a bigger, more powerful government capable of meddling in every aspect of life in the US. In fact, it would be fair to say that if you do NOT want big government, then you're probably not a liberal.

Incorrect, the classical liberal position is that government should be as small as possible. A liberal is FOR free markets, free exchange of goods and services, free flow of labor and skills,a nd minimal regulatioin. The liberal position is that the INDIVIDUAL shold make his (her) own decisions.

The classical SOCIALIST position is that government shold be big, and control many (many) things.


Hypocrisy: Liberals are overwhelmingly hypocritical.

If you think that the socialists in the democratic party are hypocritical, you shold look at the conservatives in the rebublican party.

Take public prayer: Exactly what did Jesus say about prayer? Mat 6:5-6 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

So, basically, public prayer is being hypocritical--even according to the bible!


Communism/socialism: The vast majority of liberals are, to some extent, communist or socialist in their ideals.

no, there are a lot of people who ARE comunists and socialists masquerading as liberals. But the real Liberals are not as socialistic or comunistic as the elected leaders of the democratic party. And therein lies the problem. Under educated people who think that they are liberal, when in reality they are socialists or comunists. Having the conservatives call everyons who is the least bit liberal a liberal and not the socialists nor comunists that they are hurts BOTH sides (liberals and conservatives).

Unfamiliarity with reality: Most liberals live in a form of denial.

once again the author is pandering to the conservatives by misusing the word liberal for socialist or comunist.

A true liberal lives in reality, wanting few government services, and great freedom to excercise his or her own choices in a free market economy.


Paranoia: Many liberals are rabidly paranoid. (big snip) Zionists/creationists are everywhere and they seek to censor and persecute us, so we should censor and persecute them to avoid the threat they pose to us.

if you look, you will find that the zionists and creationists ARE the undereducated conservatives and far from being liberal.

Nanny knows best:

this is the socialist position, the liberal positionis that the individual knows best.

Anger/hatred: Most liberals are, at some level, angry. It's incredibly easy to tweak a liberal's nerves.

hardly

Ego: Most liberals have a major superiority complex.

comparing the superiority complex of liberals to those of conservatives is very amusing.

Racism: This one is a landmine. Many liberals are blatantly racist.

many more conservatives are racists. Remember it was the liberal, socialists, and progressives that ended up freeing the slaves--for which TRUE sother gentlemen are forever in anoyance.

More to come later.

when you do come bace, get the liberal separated fromt eh socialists and comunists, so you can at lest blame the correct sub-groups.
8/13/2007 1:00:56 PM EDT
[#35]

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Some of what you say is technically correct, it’s just about 80 years out of date.

Traditional American Liberals were pushed aside by the Socialists in the 30s. The Socialists realized that they would never get anywhere in America under the name Socialist. So they just stole the name Liberal and used it for themselves. The true Liberals started calling themselves Libertarian. Most of the people on this forum are at least sympathetic to the Libertarian viewpoint if we aren’t Libertarians ourselves.

But, in modern speak, Liberals are big government socialists.  
8/14/2007 7:40:04 AM EDT
[#36]
Maybe to avoid confusion the word liberal should always be used in quotes when referring to modern day "liberals".  
8/14/2007 7:48:44 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Government control: Liberals have an overwhelming tendency to prefer a bigger, more powerful government capable of meddling in every aspect of life in the US. In fact, it would be fair to say that if you do NOT want big government, then you're probably not a liberal.

Incorrect, the classical liberal position is that government should be as small as possible. A liberal is FOR free markets, free exchange of goods and services, free flow of labor and skills,a nd minimal regulatioin. The liberal position is that the INDIVIDUAL shold make his (her) own decisions.

The classical SOCIALIST position is that government shold be big, and control many (many) things.


Hypocrisy: Liberals are overwhelmingly hypocritical.

If you think that the socialists in the democratic party are hypocritical, you shold look at the conservatives in the rebublican party.

Take public prayer: Exactly what did Jesus say about prayer? Mat 6:5-6 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

So, basically, public prayer is being hypocritical--even according to the bible!


Communism/socialism: The vast majority of liberals are, to some extent, communist or socialist in their ideals.

no, there are a lot of people who ARE comunists and socialists masquerading as liberals. But the real Liberals are not as socialistic or comunistic as the elected leaders of the democratic party. And therein lies the problem. Under educated people who think that they are liberal, when in reality they are socialists or comunists. Having the conservatives call everyons who is the least bit liberal a liberal and not the socialists nor comunists that they are hurts BOTH sides (liberals and conservatives).

Unfamiliarity with reality: Most liberals live in a form of denial.

once again the author is pandering to the conservatives by misusing the word liberal for socialist or comunist.

A true liberal lives in reality, wanting few government services, and great freedom to excercise his or her own choices in a free market economy.


Paranoia: Many liberals are rabidly paranoid. (big snip) Zionists/creationists are everywhere and they seek to censor and persecute us, so we should censor and persecute them to avoid the threat they pose to us.

if you look, you will find that the zionists and creationists ARE the undereducated conservatives and far from being liberal.

Nanny knows best:

this is the socialist position, the liberal positionis that the individual knows best.

Anger/hatred: Most liberals are, at some level, angry. It's incredibly easy to tweak a liberal's nerves.

hardly

Ego: Most liberals have a major superiority complex.

comparing the superiority complex of liberals to those of conservatives is very amusing.

Racism: This one is a landmine. Many liberals are blatantly racist.

many more conservatives are racists. Remember it was the liberal, socialists, and progressives that ended up freeing the slaves--for which TRUE sother gentlemen are forever in anoyance.

More to come later.

when you do come bace, get the liberal separated fromt eh socialists and comunists, so you can at lest blame the correct sub-groups.


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8/14/2007 10:17:09 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Government control: Liberals have an overwhelming tendency to prefer a bigger, more powerful government capable of meddling in every aspect of life in the US. In fact, it would be fair to say that if you do NOT want big government, then you're probably not a liberal.

Incorrect, the classical liberal position is that government should be as small as possible. A liberal is FOR free markets, free exchange of goods and services, free flow of labor and skills,a nd minimal regulatioin. The liberal position is that the INDIVIDUAL shold make his (her) own decisions.

The classical SOCIALIST position is that government shold be big, and control many (many) things.


We covered this in depth. Try reading the thread before showing everybody how thmart you are.

Hypocrisy: Liberals are overwhelmingly hypocritical.

If you think that the socialists in the democratic party are hypocritical, you shold look at the conservatives in the rebublican party.

Take public prayer: Exactly what did Jesus say about prayer? Mat 6:5-6 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

So, basically, public prayer is being hypocritical--even according to the bible!


Public prayer isn't hypocritical; doing it to show off is. Again, comprehension is crucial.

Communism/socialism: The vast majority of liberals are, to some extent, communist or socialist in their ideals.

no, there are a lot of people who ARE comunists and socialists masquerading as liberals. But the real Liberals are not as socialistic or comunistic as the elected leaders of the democratic party. And therein lies the problem. Under educated people who think that they are liberal, when in reality they are socialists or comunists. Having the conservatives call everyons who is the least bit liberal a liberal and not the socialists nor comunists that they are hurts BOTH sides (liberals and conservatives).

Most of that didn't make sense, and the little that did was still pointless.

Unfamiliarity with reality: Most liberals live in a form of denial.

once again the author is pandering to the conservatives by misusing the word liberal for socialist or comunist. Once again, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL. Stop trying to show off Mr. Critic and maybe read through stuff before jumping to asinine conclusions.

A true liberal lives in reality, wanting few government services, and great freedom to excercise his or her own choices in a free market economy.

A classic liberal, who is no longer called liberal because modern liberals have hijacked the term for their own purposes. Anal retentiveness is NOT a virtue.

Paranoia: Many liberals are rabidly paranoid. (big snip) Zionists/creationists are everywhere and they seek to censor and persecute us, so we should censor and persecute them to avoid the threat they pose to us.

if you look, you will find that the zionists and creationists ARE the undereducated conservatives and far from being liberal. "Ja, zee Chreestians are conspirink against us! Und dey are stoopid too, ja! Ha ha ha!" Go back to DU, you hack.

Nanny knows best:

this is the socialist position, the liberal positionis that the individual knows best.

Drop it, Francis.

Anger/hatred: Most liberals are, at some level, angry. It's incredibly easy to tweak a liberal's nerves.

hardly

You don't get out much, do you.

Ego: Most liberals have a major superiority complex.

comparing the superiority complex of liberals to those of conservatives is very amusing.

Get thee to DU, for thou art a troll.

Racism: This one is a landmine. Many liberals are blatantly racist.

many more conservatives are racists.Reeeeeeeaaaaaally. Remember it was the liberal, socialists, and progressives that ended up freeing the slaves--for which TRUE sother gentlemen are forever in anoyance.*sniffsniff* What's that I smell? Bullshit? The socialists are responsible for ending slavery? Wow. So I guess all that work towards my BS in history was wasted, huh.

More to come later.

when you do come bace, get the liberal separated fromt eh socialists and comunists, so you can at lest blame the correct sub-groups.

When you come back, 1) drop the ego and stop trying to look tho thmart, 2) quit being anal retentive, 3) learn to frigging SPELL, and 4) quit spreading stupidity. I think that covers everything.
8/14/2007 10:23:13 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
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8/14/2007 10:30:49 AM EDT
[#40]
I think the Liberal can be sumed up in one old proverb.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Not sure if anyone has mentioned that yet, but the shoe fits.
8/14/2007 11:46:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Awesome thread!