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6/29/2007 5:14:07 PM EDT
I have one of those bubble charcoal grills and everytime (4) I cook pork spareribs they get burned to shit before the three hour cook time is up.  Obviously I should be using less charcoal (generally I fill one of those chimney charcoal starters).  Getting another grill is not an option, and I don't even want to consider using the oven!

How are you guys doing it? How much charcoal are you guys using?
6/29/2007 5:20:00 PM EDT
[#1]
We use about the same amount of charcoal as you do, and once it gets going good, pile it on one side, and cook on the other.  Indirect heat, and it doesnt burn the meat.
6/29/2007 5:20:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Use real charcoal and remember low and slow.  You dont want a lot of heat.  
6/29/2007 5:21:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.
6/29/2007 5:21:27 PM EDT
[#4]
If you set the coals on one side and the ribs on the opposite side on the grid, it should keep them from burning because it's indirect heat.  It's REALLY tough to do ribs on a Weber-type grill....all day smoking with 225 degrees is the way to go.

Good luck.

HH
6/29/2007 5:24:34 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



-1.


Do not EVER boil ribs.  What are you making, rib soup?  

Coat them in a good rub, cook them low and slow over indirect heat, spray them with apple juice ever 30-45 minutes to help keep them from drying out, and add a nice touch of flavor.
6/29/2007 5:31:02 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



-1.


Do not EVER boil ribs.  What are you making, rib soup?  

Coat them in a good rub, cook them low and slow over indirect heat, spray them with apple juice ever 30-45 minutes to help keep them from drying out, and add a nice touch of flavor.


Don't boil them.  Do the following:

Find a good rub you like and cook them in a 275 oven sealed up in foil to keep the moisture in.  Do this about 2 hours.  THen grill over low heat.  Sauce immediately.  Cook only long enough to caramelize the sauce.  Mmmmm...
6/29/2007 5:32:41 PM EDT
[#7]
to keep the temp down, you have to starve the oxygen supply


when I do ribs (ckick here) I use 2+ chimneys of charcoal....your volume of fuel is not a problem.

6/29/2007 5:40:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Build a small pile of coals on one side. Get the heat going. Put the ribs on the other side. Drop a small pile of soaked wood chips on the coals. Cover and smoke for three hours at 225*. Then wrap in foil. All more coals and cook for another 2 hours at 225. Then remove the foil and cook for one more hour at 225*.

Don't forget your favorite rub before you start.

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7/7/2007 12:56:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks fellas!  

I tried to ring the coals around the outside with the ribs in the middle the last time, and previously had a thin layer of coals even across the bottom.
7/7/2007 1:22:24 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



Bingo, Boil them first, I used to run a mesquit grill at a resturaunt and we alway's boiled ours first....People said we had the best ribs in town but that's partly because i used hoysen sauce to BBQ them
7/7/2007 1:39:25 PM EDT
[#11]
What those other people said: indirect heat.  Don't put the ribs directly over the coals.
7/7/2007 1:43:46 PM EDT
[#12]
DO NOT BOIL RIBS. Repeat 1000 times. Everything above is good advice except the boiling stuff. I use double layer tin-foil until the last 30 minutes or so. Indirect heat. About 5 hours or so. I tend to cook the back style ribs as that's what I like.I also place a large foil roasting pan full of water under the meat. It helps keep things moist and also keeps the coals on their side.
7/7/2007 1:45:03 PM EDT
[#13]
A question for ya.  Are you using a BBQ sauce and are you putting it on the slab anytime before the last 1/2 hour?

Just thinking that might be your problem.  The sugar in the sauce will carmalize and turn black if it's cooked to long.
7/7/2007 1:55:00 PM EDT
[#14]
you need to do it "slow and low". And with liquid.

You need to do what is called "braising". Its when the tough connective tissue gets converted into gelatain. Its the difference between tough ribs and lip smacking good ribs. Make sure that the tin foil pouch is sealed well.

here is a good recipe, that I like:


Who Loves Ya Baby-Back?
Recipe courtesy Alton Brown
2 whole slabs pork baby back ribs

Recipe Summary
Prep Time: 1 hour 10 minutes
Cook Time: 3 hours 25 minutes
Yield: 2 slabs ribs
User Rating: 5 Stars

Dry Rub:
8 tablespoons light brown sugar, tightly packed
3 tablespoons kosher salt
1 tablespoon chili powder
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1/2 teaspoon jalapeno seasoning
1/2 teaspoon Old Bay Seasoning
1/2 teaspoon rubbed thyme
1/2 teaspoon onion powder

Braising Liquid:
1 cup white wine
2 tablespoons white wine vinegar
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
1 tablespoon honey
2 cloves garlic, chopped

Preheat oven to 250 degrees.

In a bowl, combine all dry ingredients and mix well. Place each slab of baby back ribs on a piece of heavy-duty aluminum foil, shiny side down. Sprinkle each side generously with the dry rub. Pat the dry rub into the meat. Refrigerate the ribs for a minimum of 1 hour. In a microwavable container, combine all ingredients for the braising liquid. Microwave on high for 1 minute.

Place the ribs on a baking sheet. Open one end of the foil on each slab and pour half of the braising liquid into each foil packet. Tilt the baking sheet in order to equally distribute the braising liquid. Braise the ribs in the oven for 3 hours. (2 slabs cook for 3 hours, 3 slabs 3.8 hours, 4 slabs 4.5 hours)

Transfer the braising liquid into a medium saucepot. Bring the liquid to a simmer and reduce by half or until of a thick syrup consistency. Brush the glaze onto the ribs. Place under the broiler just until the glaze caramelizes lightly. Slice each slab into 2 rib bone portions. Place the remaining hot glaze into a bowl and toss the rib portions in the glaze.

*This recipe makes several batches of dry rub. If more rub is needed, it can be extended by any amount, as long as the ratio of 8:3:1:1 remains the same.
7/7/2007 2:07:40 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



-1.


Do not EVER boil ribs.  What are you making, rib soup?  

Coat them in a good rub, cook them low and slow over indirect heat, spray them with apple juice ever 30-45 minutes to help keep them from drying out, and add a nice touch of flavor.


Don't boil them.  Do the following:

Find a good rub you like and cook them in a 275 oven sealed up in foil to keep the moisture in.  Do this about 2 hours.  THen grill over low heat.  Sauce immediately.  Cook only long enough to caramelize the sauce.  Mmmmm...


+1 This makes THE best ribs
7/7/2007 2:15:53 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCK NO!


Don't ever, ever, ever, ever boil ribs.  It's a fucking crime.  
7/7/2007 2:19:28 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCK NO!


Don't ever, ever, ever, ever boil ribs.  It's a fucking crime.  


+1

Roommate in college did that once.  You could see all the fat, oil, flavor seeping out of them and into the water.  WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?

7/7/2007 2:19:56 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.


I never use more than one layer of charcoal for ANY of my BBQing.


RE: the post above: I also heard that to remove the gamey taste of wild pork, boil in vinegar and milk for an hour or so. I had some ribs that were prepared that way, from a feral pig my brother had shot. My sister's garden was getting ruint by it. So we ate it.
7/7/2007 2:21:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Small stack of coal on one side and keep adding when needed.  Not going to be easy on that grill.  You need a smoker to cook low and slow without all the hassle.

Bill3508
7/7/2007 2:22:15 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Boil them for about 30 minutes before you ever throw them on the grill.Then grill them for 20 minutes.



-1.


Do not EVER boil ribs.  What are you making, rib soup?  

Coat them in a good rub, cook them low and slow over indirect heat, spray them with apple juice ever 30-45 minutes to help keep them from drying out, and add a nice touch of flavor.


Don't boil them.  Do the following:

Find a good rub you like and cook them in a 275 oven sealed up in foil to keep the moisture in.  Do this about 2 hours.  THen grill over low heat.  Sauce immediately.  Cook only long enough to caramelize the sauce.  Mmmmm...


I use the same method. Reduces actual time on the grill to a very manageable 10-20 minutes.

I usually go 230 degrees in the oven for around 3 1/2 hours.

I think this way is alittle healthier also because 3 full rack slabs usually seep off at least a cup or two of grease / fat while wrapped in the foil.
7/7/2007 5:21:05 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCK NO!


Don't ever, ever, ever, ever boil ribs.  It's a fucking crime.  

I stand with this guy.
7/7/2007 5:24:54 PM EDT
[#22]
WTF is a "one of those bubble bbq's"?  

7/7/2007 5:26:23 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Build a small pile of coals on one side. Get the heat going. Put the ribs on the other side. Drop a small pile of soaked wood chips on the coals. Cover and smoke for three hours at 225*. Then wrap in foil. All more coals and cook for another 2 hours at 225. Then remove the foil and cook for one more hour at 225*.

Don't forget your favorite rub before you start.

If you have access to the archive server:

archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=499815
Ah the 3-2-1 method...that's what I've used, and my ribs came out overdone. But I recently found out that my thermometer was reading about 50 degrees under the actual temp. Now I need to go try again.
7/7/2007 5:30:16 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FUCK NO!


Don't ever, ever, ever, ever boil ribs.  It's a fucking crime.  

I stand with this guy.


+1000

Low heat...if you don't have a temperature gauge than you may want to look into the purchase of one.  Keep you heat low...keep it undercontrol, and remember air feeds fire so less air less fire.  It should take you around 3-4 hour minimum to cook pork spare ribs.  

If you want just make the heat on one side of the grill and place the meat on the other and smoke it, but that will take you the better part of a day to do.