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Posted: 10/6/2001 4:56:38 PM EDT
simple... Mossberg 590 A1 or Remington 870 Police i like the mossberg cause its steel and hold 9 rnds, 870 is cheaper, lighter, and based off of the good ol 870 any opinions?
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 4:58:49 PM EDT
There are more 870's in service than any other shotgun. For me it was clear. If its good enough for some of the Special Forces its good enough for me. You can get mag extensions for the 870 cheap! Isnt the 870 steel and the mossberg aluminum? Scott
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:02:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2001 4:58:51 PM EDT by I_Luv_Carrots]
When the US Millitary selects a "brand", they do so with 2 primary considerations. "Spec" and "Cost"- THe specifications are selected (As far as preformance, and durability), and the cost ceiling is made known. A civillian who can select any gun his finances permit isn't limited to such constraints. ---Edited to add--- I just thought i'd preemptivley mention that before the horde of Mossberg folk cite that particular weapon as being best becasue it's what Uncle Sam buys in the greatest quantity.
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:04:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2001 5:01:59 PM EDT by SGB]
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:09:01 PM EDT
yeah i think the 870 express has a aluminum reciever but i could be wrong anyone?
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:11:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:25:11 PM EDT
Thats what I kinda thought
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:37:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 5:48:48 PM EDT
im lookin at a remington 870 police - black syn stock, extended tube, 18.5'' barrel. (the tube is actually longer than the barrel) i have a mossberg 500 A, but really, this 870 semms of MUCH better quality... anyways, if the 870's really have a steel reciever than my problem has been solved...
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 6:00:52 PM EDT
more options with the 870
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 7:17:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 7:22:11 PM EDT
Mossi 590! unless you're going to put the top folder on then Rem 870, they have a nice LE only folder.
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 7:27:58 PM EDT
Bushmaster has a Choate top folding stock listed for the Remmy 870, Mossy 500/600 and the Winchester 1200 in their catalouge
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 9:02:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Flip_from_New_York: Bushmaster has a Choate top folding stock listed for the Remmy 870, Mossy 500/600 and the Winchester 1200 in their catalouge
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First let me premise this by saying that I own both 870s and 590s (and a Win 1200, too), plus I have the Remington LE and the Choate folders. So I've tried them all. If you have to have a folder, go with the Remington and avoid the Choate. But my advice is to forget folding stocks all together. Instead, check out the Speedfeed pistol grip stocks - they work great! Both Remington and Mossberg make nice riot guns. But while the Remingtons tend to be finished nicer, for me the Mossberg has better features. I like the 20" barrel and the extra shell in the magazine. And the bayonet lug comes in really handy as a flashlight mount. The only thing I didn't get were the ghost ring sights - once I actually tried them I hated them and went with a standard gold bead. So that's my perfect 12 gauge pump - Mossberg 590, 20" barrel, bayo lug, bead sight, and Speedfeed pistol grip stock. And that's what I keep propped up in the corner of my bedroom while the Remingtons sit in the safe.
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 9:36:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SGB:
Originally Posted By SkaerE: yeah i think the 870 express has a aluminum reciever but i could be wrong anyone?
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Wrong..........Remingtons have steel receivers[:D]
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Maybe the pumps do, but the 11-87 has aruminum.
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 9:41:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/6/2001 9:39:39 PM EDT by BusMaster007]
[b]Remington 870. Remington 870. Remington 870. Remington 870. Remington 870. Remington 870. Remington 870.[/b] ...edited because I'm biased and opinionated.(and it's biased, [i]not[/i] "bi-assed", like I've got 2 of 'em!!!)
Link Posted: 10/6/2001 10:28:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: i've been hapy with my mossburg but the plastic trigger group just bothers me.
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Doesn't the A1 come with a metal trigger group? I thought that was the military spec they built it to.
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 5:56:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/7/2001 9:20:07 AM EDT
I would go with the 870P. I think it is a better gun. You don't get the bayonet lug but really, what the use? All Remington Police shotguns have steel magnum recievers, 870s and 11-87s. Go here for info on Remington P shotguns.[url]www.remingtonle.com[/url] One problem with 870Ps is finding one in the configuration you are looking for. I was told by Remington the were done making P shotguns for this year but, had 800 on hand for their dealers.
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 3:28:51 PM EDT
how do you know it is a Remington police model? its all black/synthetic, has factory extended mag tube, and 18.5'' barrel with bead site this sound right?
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 3:43:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SkaerE: how do you know it is a Remington police model? its all black/synthetic, has factory extended mag tube, and 18.5'' barrel with bead site this sound right?
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Chances are, unless it's unusually expensive, it's the "express" model. Still totally worth it. The differences are minor. I believe the Express has a polymer triggerguard, where the P has a steel one. Here's a pic of mine [img]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/037/oJ/GT/J6/ry76845.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 3:56:40 PM EDT
its for $299 and i think it said express on the receiver what are the differences? just the trigger guard? the receiver is still steel right? thanks again
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 4:06:59 PM EDT
Rem 870 Express magnum steel w/ aluminum trigger
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 7:11:30 PM EDT
Express models are stamped "870 express magnum" on the reciever. Police models are stamped "870 police magnum" on the reciever. All Remington magnum recievers are steel. If the gun you are looking at is $299, it is an express. IMO it is still a better gun than the Mossy. The P models are usually between $375 and $500 depending on the configuration. If the reciever does not have "POLICE" stamped on it, it is not a P model. The main differences in the express and the P models are: Express--alum trigger Police--steel Express--birch stock(ex syn) Police--walnut(ex syn) Express--solid rubber buttpad Police--fancy Remington buttpad Police guns are also truly parkerized while the exprees seems to have a bead-blasted, blued finish. The P model also has a lighter barrel, a high visibility follwer, and your choice of rifle, ghost ring, or bead sights, and supposedly a smoothed up action. Also both only come in 18" or 20" barrels. No 18.5". I think the 870 is a better gun than the Mossy either way.
Link Posted: 10/7/2001 7:16:25 PM EDT
Go with the Remington 870. I shoot better with that than my $1200 O/U.
Link Posted: 10/9/2001 7:44:35 PM EDT
SkaerE Did you pick one yet?
Link Posted: 10/9/2001 7:58:38 PM EDT
Ain't she purty??? Total cost as configured, around $550. Express HD with steel receiver and trigger guard. [img]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/034/fv/kv/9u/YJ84635.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/9/2001 8:06:51 PM EDT
called in today, someone bought my new Remington 870, the nerve of some people! ;) ahh well, i need the $$ fer my new USP 45 compact anyways thanks again all... (i have a mossberg 500a that looks a lot like the picture above but i want to move up in quality/durability)
Link Posted: 10/9/2001 8:07:45 PM EDT
870P all the way! Have both, 870P and Moss 590 Mariner, Love both, but would have to choose the Remington because I believe that it is sturdier and has taken alot of sh*t and never failed me.
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