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5/24/2007 11:48:35 AM EDT
I'm removing five frost-damaged trees and will be replacing them.

I've removed all five trees now and am prepping the area for the new trees.

The old trees have been in the ground for 7 years and were about 20ft tall so they had a decent root system now. Out of 14 trees on the property, these five were the only ones just not coming back from the bad frost we had in January.

My question is this - now that I got the trees and basic rootball out - how much of the rest of the spreading roots do I need to remove for the new trees to be okay?

Will having old roots from the just-removed tree affect the new trees?

Most of the remaining roots around the hole are 2-3inches or less in diamter.

5/24/2007 11:51:24 AM EDT
[#1]
you wont have a problem with the old roots besides them getting in the way when your digging. they will just rot away eventually. have fun
5/24/2007 12:13:31 PM EDT
[#2]

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you wont have a problem with the old roots besides them getting in the way when your digging. they will just rot away eventually. have fun

Thanks.

Yeah, those roots make it hard to dig through - I'm using an ax as much as a shovel.
5/24/2007 12:17:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Just go down to the local 7-11 and hire some of those Hispanic guys to do it for you.  

I'M KIDDING!
5/24/2007 12:19:37 PM EDT
[#4]

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you wont have a problem with the old roots besides them getting in the way when your digging. they will just rot away eventually. have fun

Thanks.

Yeah, those roots make it hard to dig through - I'm using an ax as much as a shovel.


yea not one of my favorite things to do at all.
5/24/2007 12:20:49 PM EDT
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Just go down to the local 7-11 and hire some of those Hispanic guys to do it for you.  


+1

That was my first thought as well!
5/24/2007 12:47:59 PM EDT
[#6]

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Just go down to the local 7-11 and hire some of those Hispanic guys to do it for you.  
+1

That was my first thought as well!

Hmm.... let's see - I already got five deep holes dug around the yard...

 SSS.



Just removing the illegal aliens that American politicians don't want to.
5/24/2007 12:54:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Those old roots will work to your new tree's benefit as they decompose and increase soil porosity.

They may present some cussin' and swearin' as you dig the new holes, though...
5/24/2007 2:18:21 PM EDT
[#8]
We looked into this. Recently. Depends on what kind of tree as to how far and hard it will be to remove.
It also depends on how big, not what kind of tree you are putting back in.
Since I don't have thousands to replace a tree, we looked at 30 gal trees. About 2 inches thick I think. They said it had to be dug up about 20 inches deep and 36 inches around for it to be planted correctly.
Since we lost bradford pears, they said it had a shallow root system and it would be pretty easy to dig out. If it were a large oak or something, they would not bother to try because of the cost to dig out the root system so far down.
5/24/2007 2:30:09 PM EDT
[#9]
Oh hell, take that new Ford F-450 Superduty and hook a chain up to the tree trunk and you will be able to pull all the roots out of the ground...  They show it on TV all the time





Honestly, it does suck!  I would just get the gound to where you need to plant and as long as their is soil the new tree should be OK.  After all, trees grow in the forest just fine and nobody removes the old ones for them.
5/24/2007 2:37:51 PM EDT
[#10]

FWIW, I work in the tree business, and the last couple of weeks I've been going around grinding stumps to prep the area for replanting. As long as the trunk, the flare, and the majority of the bigger roots in the area are gone you shouldn't have any problem planting new trees. The tiny roots won't affect the growth of the newly replanted trees.
5/24/2007 3:34:36 PM EDT
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FWIW, I work in the tree business, and the last couple of weeks I've been going around grinding stumps to prep the area for replanting. As long as the trunk, the flare, and the majority of the bigger roots in the area are gone you shouldn't have any problem planting new trees. The tiny roots won't affect the growth of the newly replanted trees.


where in ny are you?
5/24/2007 3:50:55 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
FWIW, I work in the tree business, and the last couple of weeks I've been going around grinding stumps to prep the area for replanting. As long as the trunk, the flare, and the majority of the bigger roots in the area are gone you shouldn't have any problem planting new trees. The tiny roots won't affect the growth of the newly replanted trees.


where in ny are you?



South of Rochester, in the Canandaigua area.
5/24/2007 7:01:57 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
We looked into this. Recently. Depends on what kind of tree as to how far and hard it will be to remove.
It also depends on how big, not what kind of tree you are putting back in.
Since I don't have thousands to replace a tree, we looked at 30 gal trees. About 2 inches thick I think. They said it had to be dug up about 20 inches deep and 36 inches around for it to be planted correctly.
Since we lost bradford pears, they said it had a shallow root system and it would be pretty easy to dig out. If it were a large oak or something, they would not bother to try because of the cost to dig out the root system so far down.

The roots are not that extensive. Old trunks were at most maybe 5-6 inches diameter. New ones will be in 24" boxes.



Quoted:
FWIW, I work in the tree business, and the last couple of weeks I've been going around grinding stumps to prep the area for replanting. As long as the trunk, the flare, and the majority of the bigger roots in the area are gone you shouldn't have any problem planting new trees. The tiny roots won't affect the growth of the newly replanted trees.

Thanks mon.