Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
5/23/2007 8:48:11 AM EDT
A guy I know from work wants to buy a gun, his first.  Asks me to go with him to check out the weapon.  I say ok. Its a Glock 19, with 3 mags.  We all pop off a couple mags and I comment that the mags are illegal in Ca. Nothing is said other then how stupid Ca. is.

I tell my work friend (dont know this guy other then I work with him) its a good gun at a good price.

He hands the guy three 100 dollar bills and the guy hands him the gun, the mags and the gun case.

?
What would you do?

I will post what I did after your comments.
5/23/2007 8:51:31 AM EDT
[#1]

Aren't things (like old mags) grandfathered in?

Either way, I'd do nothing, since it's not really any of my business, other than informing him of potential illegality.
5/23/2007 8:51:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Why would you think you have to "do" anything?
Keep your mouth shut and smile.

You can't possibly be asking if you should rat him out for the mags, can you?
5/23/2007 8:52:11 AM EDT
[#3]
Keep my mouth shut and mind my own fucking business.
5/23/2007 8:54:23 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Keep my mouth shut and mind my own fucking business.

What motown_steve said.
5/23/2007 8:54:29 AM EDT
[#5]
MYOFB
5/23/2007 8:54:43 AM EDT
[#6]


In addition to the mags being illegal, all firearm transfers in CA must go through an FFL.  

What would I do?  Move out of CA, which I already did.
5/23/2007 8:55:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Seems cheap.  Pat him on the back for landing a good deal, and / or suggest he run the SN through the police if hes curious as to why he got such a good deal.
5/23/2007 8:57:03 AM EDT
[#8]
I tell you what I would do......I would ask the guy if he had more mags to sell me.  
5/23/2007 8:58:12 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Why would you think you have to "do" anything?
Keep your mouth shut and smile.

You can't possibly be asking if you should rat him out for the mags, can you?


He can't possibly... He said it himself: "stupid CA."

You already told him that it might be illegal.

Let it be.
5/23/2007 8:58:29 AM EDT
[#10]
No FTF in CA.

I wonder if the real owner of the gun misses it?
5/23/2007 8:59:37 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I tell my work friend (dont know this guy other then I work with him) its a good gun at a good price.


There's your mistake, getting involved in a gun transaction, with a stranger, where you are neither the buyer nor the seller.  Water under the bridge, now, though.
5/23/2007 9:03:32 AM EDT
[#12]
$300 bucks for a G-Lock?
In Kali?
No FFL xfer?

That roscoe is hot, Jimmy.
5/23/2007 9:07:17 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Keep my mouth shut and mind my own fucking business.


+1
5/23/2007 9:10:23 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
MYOFB


+1000000
5/23/2007 9:11:05 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

I wonder if the real owner of the gun misses it?





Good point.  
5/23/2007 9:16:42 AM EDT
[#16]
As soon as I had even a hint that something illegal was going on (like selling a Glock for $300 cash, no FFL in Cali, with high cap mags) I'd promptly leave and call it good.

I wouldn't call the police, but I wouldn't have any part in it, either. If my friend wants to do something illegal, he's going to have to do it without me. If I was his ride, then either he leaves with me, or he stays behind with the Glock. His choice.
5/23/2007 9:18:22 AM EDT
[#17]
Ok, this guy was buying his first firearm.  He's 21 and that isnt a good way to start off collecting firearms.

I stopped the sale and explained the laws.  I told them the gun shop will do the sale for $40 and is less then 10 minutes away.

the seller had no problem with this.  It was his first (and only) gun he bought 8 years ago and doesnt want it in the house with his kids.

sale was commpleted legally 25 minutes later.

5/23/2007 9:23:17 AM EDT
[#18]
I would not be in cali....so it would be a good buy.  But in that specific case, I would tell him its illegal to buy FTF and would leave.
5/23/2007 9:26:33 AM EDT
[#19]
BTW - to the best of my knowledge, it was illegal to transfer high cap mags bought before the ban to a new owner, when I lived there. Just sayin...
5/23/2007 9:28:06 AM EDT
[#20]
Your co-worker is a fucking douche-bag for knowingly making you a witness to his illegal activity by not telling you in advance what he was planning.  Would I rat him out?  Probably not, but I sure would put him on my "stay the hell away from that idiot son of a bitch" list.

On the other hand....If you KNEW he was going to purchase the gun illegally and you still agreed to go him, well, then you are the fucking douchebag for making this post.

5/23/2007 9:29:09 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Ok, this guy was buying his first firearm.  He's 21 and that isnt a good way to start off collecting firearms.

I stopped the sale and explained the laws.  I told them the gun shop will do the sale for $40 and is less then 10 minutes away.

the seller had no problem with this.  It was his first (and only) gun he bought 8 years ago and doesnt want it in the house with his kids.

sale was commpleted legally 25 minutes later.





Considering the FTF is illegal in CA (which I didn't know until others explained it), I think the way you handled it was perfect - especially since the FFL transfer will protect the buyer from getting stolen property.

5/23/2007 9:29:25 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Ok, this guy was buying his first firearm.  He's 21 and that isnt a good way to start off collecting firearms.

I stopped the sale and explained the laws.  I told them the gun shop will do the sale for $40 and is less then 10 minutes away.

the seller had no problem with this.  It was his first (and only) gun he bought 8 years ago and doesnt want it in the house with his kids.

sale was commpleted legally 25 minutes later.



And in this case, disregard my previous post!    Well done.

ETA:  In your OP, you *did* imply that the sale was completed illegally, thus my earlier comments.  
5/23/2007 9:30:02 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
No FTF in CA.

I wonder if the real owner of the gun misses it?


I was thinking about that after I posted.

$300 for a Glock 19 with hicaps?

5/23/2007 9:30:16 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Your co-worker is a fucking douche-bag for knowingly making you a witness to his illegal activity by not telling you in advance what he was planning.  Would I rat him out?  Probably not, but I sure would put him on my "stay the hell away from that idiot son of a bitch" list.

On the other hand....If you KNEW he was going to purchase the gun illegally and you still agreed to go him, well, then you are the fucking douchebag for making this post.



Whoah whoah, ease up. A lot of new gun owners in California aren't hip to the laws. Take it easy on his coworker. He's educated now, and they did the transfer legally.
5/23/2007 9:31:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Inform your friend of the risks/consequences/benefits and legalities, mind your business, walk away and never speak of this incident again.
5/23/2007 9:32:26 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Ok, this guy was buying his first firearm.  He's 21 and that isnt a good way to start off collecting firearms.

I stopped the sale and explained the laws.  I told them the gun shop will do the sale for $40 and is less then 10 minutes away.

the seller had no problem with this.  It was his first (and only) gun he bought 8 years ago and doesnt want it in the house with his kids.

sale was commpleted legally 25 minutes later.



Wow it was just a good deal then,  sounded like it was hot.  40 bucks is very high for a phonecall to the feds, but thats california for you.
5/23/2007 9:34:51 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Your co-worker is a fucking douche-bag for knowingly making you a witness to his illegal activity by not telling you in advance what he was planning.  Would I rat him out?  Probably not, but I sure would put him on my "stay the hell away from that idiot son of a bitch" list.

On the other hand....If you KNEW he was going to purchase the gun illegally and you still agreed to go him, well, then you are the fucking douchebag for making this post.



Whoah whoah, ease up. A lot of new gun owners in California aren't hip to the laws. Take it easy on his coworker. He's educated now, and they did the transfer legally.


Alright, perhaps I was a bit harsh, but the "ignorance is bliss" argument is one of the reasons guns have such a bad reputation in this country.  If you own or want to own a firearm, it's your responsibilty to understand the laws regarding firearms.  Violating the laws using ignorance as a defense just gives ammo to the liberal argument for gun control.
5/23/2007 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
MYOFB


+1
5/23/2007 10:17:01 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No FTF in CA.

I wonder if the real owner of the gun misses it?


I was thinking about that after I posted.

$300 for a Glock 19 with hicaps?



Isnt it great to find good deals...lol

Ever hear the story of the 1969 mustang fastback with less then 5 original miles stored in a barn and sold for the original sticker price of $5000...lol