[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Poser at work............ (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/10/2007 6:13:14 PM EDT
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This guy claims to have been in the 82nd Airborne, the Tenth Mountain Division, and a Psychological operations group. He says he was in Somalia in '93 and shot at people with a M9 that was junk. The thing is, that the guy is only a couple years older than I am (he's 31). I remember him from high school- he's always been terribly out of shape, and to be honest, not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's also known to stretch the truth. What can I do to find out for sure? He has about a dozen people at work impressed as hell with this stuff, but he shows the classic signs of a bullshitter. I've expressed my disbelief, but didn't tell him he was full of shit- and I don't want to without knowing the facts. |
OK... Just TOO coinkydink: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=576106&page=3 I do backflips to ensure that I don't get the poser label. If the truth isn't good enough, oh well. I did my damnedest, and am still doing so. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread... 
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Yeah, ask him about a fake form. If he doesn't reply with "A what now?", or if he says "Yeah they gave me one but I lost it in a flood..." then he's full of shit. |
DD216  nice... |
I was 22 when I was in Somalia in 93 im 36 now! That would make him right around 17 or so! Ask him where he lived in the Mog? Most of the US troops lived in the University complex or the airport. Marines lived at the embassy. Im trying to think of something that everyone would know about that place but hell I am starting to forget the details! Edit .....Fuck!!! Just ask the shitbird to bring some photos of him in Somalia! Every swinging dick in the military has at least a photo or two of the places they were!!!!!! This was me in 93 in the Mog! 
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Don't flat out call him on his bullsh*t. When he's bragging to everyone, make like you're generally interested and ask a question that will just completely throw him off if he's lying. Everyone else has provided really good examples. This way you're not the bad guy for flat out calling him a liar, and you get to laugh a little on the inside. |
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Ask him: -what color were the canopy lights (for night jumps) used by the 82nd and what color the ones for the 101st (joke pulled on cherry (first time) night jump.There is no such thing as canopy lights  -What is a PLF (parachute landing fall),how many contact points in a PLF (5 though sometimes we forget if the 4th is the thigh or the butt  )-How tall were the 40 and 250 foot towers at Benning, and what were they used for? (40' to practice jumping out of plane) 250 to give you a feeling of falling with a chute, and to learn to steer the chute with the risers)-How many units in the 250' (4)and how many used at any 1 time? (3 or 2) depending on wind direction) -How often do you need to jump to maintain jump status? (every 3 months) -What is combat alley (a place in Fayettevile,NC) -What size unit is the 82nd (Division), how many Brigades (3 in my time; 4 now) -What are you supposed to do in anticipation for a water landing? (hit the release and keep your arms tucked until hitting the water,then throw arms up to let the chute come off) -What do you do if you land in electric wires? (get body tight and rock back/forth) -What is the 1st jump command (Get ready!) What is the last (Go!) -What doess the 82nd's AA patch mean (All American) -When was the unit formed (WWI) For the 10th MD: Where is Watertown and which staff member lives there blah, blah |
Cool, now I can be a poser. But, I wouldn't disrespect those who have served. |
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I had to come back to this thread ..... This morning I was at Target getting some household stuff and saw a guy with a 1st Recon BN shirt on..(that's Marines) So as I usually do when I see a Marine, I said hi and how's it going etc. So I ask the guy if he is still with Recon. (I have the same shirt but I don't wear it out on the town mainly because I am not a Marine and certainly not Recon) anyways.... the guy says "No, I just got transferred to another unit" "Ok cool" says me, and I go on to explain briefly about age waiver I'm trying to get etc etc. So I ask what Unit and is he from Houston or what....you know, just general bullshitting. The guy says he is now going "1st Cav". Ok at this point I am now wondering a few things but not being .mil I could be wrong.... So I say to the guy "why the switch?" He says "Politics man, the Army is all politics"  At this point the alarm bells are ringing LOUDLY. So I asked the guy if he did any time overseas and he says yeah, a few years with RECON in Iraq but that RECON was "really political and full of 'under qualified officers'" so that's why he put in for the transfer to "1st Cav", he heard they were more "professional" as a unit. Now I am just standing in Target and you all know I am not a vet or anything like that, but I do know a shitload of Marines etc and I spend a bit of time on here, so even I know that RECON is Marines and 1st Cav is ARMY. Apparently this guy did not know. Anyone familiar with the 1st RECON Bn crest design knows that there are the stars of the southern cross, a skull etc. in a diamond shaped border. There is no "USMC" in the design or on the shirt. No EGA either, simply the crest of the 1st Recon Bn on a black background. So this idiot thought RECON was ARMY ... and I didn't have the heart to tell him that he was wearing a Marine Corps T-shirt. Target Rules! |
Yeah, when I got fed up with c-rations in my platoon, I put in for a transfer to a submarine assignment because they have the best chow.....but I wanted to sleep in USAF housing because the women were better looking and the subs' bunkbeds were too confining
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What's even better is this guy thought 1st Cav was an SF unit. "More specialized than Recon"... IIRC.  |
Why bother? When confronted with the truth, he'll probably just try to lie his way out of it, anyway. "The shit I did was classified," or a variation on that theme. You know he's full of shit. So, tell him that. You don't need proof. |
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One of my friends, a while back, was going out with a guy that claimed to be a Marine Machine Gunner. She sent me a picture that he had sent to her, once... It was the picture of the 4 US Army Rangers on the benches of an OH-6 during a MOUT training exercise. I called BS, told her that ain't him and he's a tool. At first she defended him, but then started asking me why I said that, and it peaked her interest. I gave her a list of things to ask, what unit, where he's stationed, rank, what certain gear was, etc. He told her he was a USMC Specialist (WTF?), and I said there aren't Specialists in the Marines, that's an Army rank... When she told him that, he said "Well I'm not lieing, that's what it says here on my dog tags I'm holding." OK, so he's a tool, I decided to have her ask him a few more things so he could dig a deeper hole for himself... As his story goes, he signed up when he was 16, he's 17 now, and he gratuated "Basic Training" as an E5. He even prefaced his rank story with "No one believes that I could have been chosen to be a leader of men at such a young age, but that's OK because they're all just haters. I earned my Sergeant's stripes and my men respect me." OK... So I had her ask "What happened, you were demoted to Specialist?" He replied "No, when I got my Machine 0331 MOS they promoted me to a Machine Gun Specialist." OK, I guess they're making up ranks just for him now. Then, I had her inquire as to his exact unit... He said he was 3rd MEU, 16th Marines, and he was part of a special "demonstration team" that flies around the country and does combat demonstrations at various bases, while he's not deployed and in combat. At this point I decided to stop toying with him, I told her to tell him that her friend was going to call 3rd MEU, 16th Marines (hehe) HQ and inquire as to whether he was on the roster. Well that sent him into a fit of tears, wailing about how he's so sorry for lying to her, and he only did it because he loves her so much and wanted her to respect him. This cocksocket also had a bunch of militaryphotos.net pictures up on his MySpace, which re-itterated his "I graduated basic training as a Sergeant and I'm a leader of men" story. With a bunch of people in his comments posting "Thanks for your service" and "You're so cool I want to hear about your next operation. Did you kill more Iraqis this time?" I thought I heard about this somewhere... Wasn't there some DoD group that was tasked with cleaning the posers off MySpace a while back? I wonder if they got him. ETA: Oh, and I almost forgot... The kid is a massive tool, to be sure. But he also had a few pictures of him holding an M249, which he claimed he kept under his bed, and was his "personal weapon." She said he "likes big guns" and "owns a lot of machine guns." I said I doubt this numbnuts has enough money to buy machine guns, and he's freaking 17, how the hell would he legally purchase a machinegun? He told her that he has a special Federal Firearms License, since he's an active duty Marine, that allows him to purchase any firearm he wants to "suit his mission." Wow, just wow. |
Whats his myspace? That's probably a riot to see. |
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I do Managed IT services and I am at client offices all the time. So I am working in an office and a woman in the office strikes up a conversation on current events. She tells all present that her Boyfriend was "one of the first" conscientious objectors during the '91 Gulf War. She goes on to tell in detail how the recruiter tricked him in to joining and then they wanted to send him to *gasp* Iraq to *gasp* minefields! She was proud that he eventually got bounced out. Then says how insane war is, how insane the Army is, and how insane it is that anyone would be in a minefield. I just kept my mouth shit as long as possible. The woman leaves the room. The manager is among the people left in the room and asks me my opinion... I say (and its true) "I was a Combat Engineer during the gulf war, I cleared mine fields". and went back too what I was working on. You could not have cleared a room any faster with a hang over fart. |
Wish I could remember it... Next time I talk to her I'll ask if she still has it (she dumped him after this, at least she was smart enough once presented the facts.) ETA: I recall a rash of this in recent history... I believe that's why the DoD started targeting MySpace. I think there was even a website linking to various MySpace profiles that had people pretending to be military. Go on there and search for Marines, Army, etc and see what pops up... I'm sure you can pick out the posers without a second glance on most of 'em. |
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Get his name - I think he was in my Space Shuttle Orbital Assault Squadron back in The 'Nam. We really kicked Mao's butt, let me tell ya - the smell of burning cordite over Berlin will always be seared in my memory. Now, where are my meds? That pain behind my right eye is spiking again... |
If I send the BATFE my DD217 and ID-10T forms in triplicate, can I get one of those fancy licenses too? Hell, I've got two branches of service under my belt--does that qualify me to own Minuteman missiles? |