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4/5/2007 5:24:03 PM EDT
My elbow hurts pretty bad.

Whenever it's bent and pressure is applied to it, it feels as if I am being shocked (nerve damage, I presume.)

It started hurtng Sunday afternoon and it has gotten worse.

The only thing I can link it to is me driving my tiller steared outboard motor over some rocks Saturday (the prop struck a couple of rocks real hard.)

I'm 33 years old, lift weights regularly, swim and am in pretty good physical shape. I played football in highschool and have never felt a shooting pain like this.

As I've said, it's a shooting pain that stops as soon as the pressure is removed. The pain radiates in two directions from the source of contact.

I've "stayed off of it" for almost a week now. No lifting, no straining. I've taken Alieve with little relief. Advil may work better, I'm not sure.

I don't believe going to the doctor will resolve this anytime soon, assuming it is nerve damage.

Thoughts?
4/5/2007 5:25:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't bend it or put pressure on it.
4/5/2007 5:26:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Muscle, tendon or ligament.
4/5/2007 5:35:51 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Muscle, tendon or ligament.


What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[sacasm] Do I need my arm amputated or not? [/sarcasm]
4/5/2007 5:38:32 PM EDT
[#4]
Icy hot, Icy to dull the pain, Hot to relax it
4/5/2007 5:38:57 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Don't bend it or put pressure on it.


Send me a bill.
4/5/2007 5:42:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Sounds like a case of "Valbow" to me.
4/5/2007 5:43:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Drink lots of water.
4/5/2007 5:46:51 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Sounds like a case of "Valbow" to me.


Valbow, what the hell is valbow?

Half vagina half elbow? Toughen up, Scooter?
4/5/2007 5:48:49 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Drink lots of water.


Why, to wash the sand out of my mangina?

It hurts damn it. And I drink a gallon a day probably.
4/5/2007 5:52:21 PM EDT
[#10]
you were obviosly bitten by a tunnel-web-elbow spider...

it will only get worse..

eventually your arm will fall off.. if lucky at the elbow, if not so lucky at the shoulder..

be glad though.. if you was bitten by an australian funnel web spider, your head would explode and you'd die.
4/5/2007 5:54:32 PM EDT
[#11]
WoooHooo!  I'm the first to say it!  You're going to die, can I have your guns?
4/5/2007 5:55:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Call the doctor for advice pending your visit.  Sooner rather than later.

It may be a little late for ice, but immobilizing it probably works better than 'staying off it',
no matter how careful you are.


Going to the Dr. now is not a waste even if your self diagnosis it correct.  You might receive treatment that would prevent further damage.  OTOH, how do you know it's not a tendon impinging on a nerve?
4/5/2007 5:59:14 PM EDT
[#13]
The same thing happened to me 10 years ago. Kind of a constant ache, and sharp jolts when moved. The pain started when I threw a baseball. Went to doc a month later, broken. The actual elbow nub was sheared off. It didn't hurt bad, just annoying.
4/5/2007 6:10:30 PM EDT
[#14]
If it has been hurting like that for a week...you need to get it x-rayed, and have a MS/NS workup done on it.

Inflammation within a joint is not a good thing. It can make it hospitable for a little bacterial fiesta, and hopefully not from MRSE or GC, as well as another dozen little bad critters.
4/5/2007 6:46:59 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Muscle, tendon or ligament.


What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[sacasm] Do I need my arm amputated or not? [/sarcasm]


Hell no!!!

Two, maybe three days it'll fall off by itself.
4/5/2007 7:01:57 PM EDT
[#16]
I find it hard to believe that hitting something with an outboard would cause that much damage.  How fast were you going?  I guess it could cause that.
4/5/2007 7:02:45 PM EDT
[#17]
oops double post somehow
4/5/2007 7:10:02 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
WoooHooo!  I'm the first to say it!  You're going to die, can I have your guns?


This is a perfect time to say:

All the guns fell overboard when the boat hit the rock.
4/5/2007 7:10:41 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
you were obviosly bitten by a tunnel-web-elbow spider...

it will only get worse..

eventually your arm will fall off.. if lucky at the elbow, if not so lucky at the shoulder..

be glad though.. if you was bitten by an australian funnel web spider, your head would explode and you'd die.


That's what I suspected.
4/5/2007 7:11:29 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Call the doctor for advice pending your visit.  Sooner rather than later.

It may be a little late for ice, but immobilizing it probably works better than 'staying off it',
no matter how careful you are.


Going to the Dr. now is not a waste even if your self diagnosis it correct.  You might receive treatment that would prevent further damage.  OTOH, how do you know it's not a tendon impinging on a nerve?


I'm to busy to call the Doc if it will heal on its own.
4/5/2007 7:12:26 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
The same thing happened to me 10 years ago. Kind of a constant ache, and sharp jolts when moved. The pain started when I threw a baseball. Went to doc a month later, broken. The actual elbow nub was sheared off. It didn't hurt bad, just annoying.


No constant pain. It just hurts when given a specif pressure point (which I seem to find while sleeping.)
4/5/2007 7:13:30 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
If it has been hurting like that for a week...you need to get it x-rayed, and have a MS/NS workup done on it.

Inflammation within a joint is not a good thing. It can make it hospitable for a little bacterial fiesta, and hopefully not from MRSE or GC, as well as another dozen little bad critters.


My wife just looked at it compared to my other elow and said its swollen.

I thought both arms were big!
4/5/2007 7:16:35 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I find it hard to believe that hitting something with an outboard would cause that much damage.  How fast were you going?  I guess it could cause that.


That's what I thought.

I live a pretty rough life and have never been injured like this before, but I could chalk it up to aging.

I hit a solid rock with a 20hp outboard motor while drinking. It was bumping like hell and knocked a chunck out of the aluminum prop. It didn't hurt at the moment but it's the only impact that arm was subjected to all week.

Edited to add: My arm was in a "dip" type position when I hit the rock. A lot of leverage was working agianst my arm.
4/5/2007 7:19:27 PM EDT
[#24]
The icy hot makes it feel better right now.

Treating the symptom, curing the injury, who knows?
4/5/2007 7:22:24 PM EDT
[#25]
The exact same thing happened to me about 4 years ago..




Three days later....  DEAD




or was it a week or two of whackin with the other arm... Can't remember....
4/5/2007 7:26:49 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
The exact same thing happened to me about 4 years ago..




Three days later....  DEAD




or was it a week or two of whackin with the other arm... Can't remember....


Whacking doesn't hurt it....


....wait, I mean, I don't think it would hurt to whack.

ETA: All my page 2s belong to me! (I don't see this thread going much further.)
4/5/2007 7:30:53 PM EDT
[#27]
The ulnar nerve runs in a groove around the elbow and can easily become inflamed for a variety of reasons.  While it's not an emergency, I'd get it checked out.  You probably only need a little physical therapy and time.  The physical therapist can also fit you with a pad that will keep you from bending the elbow while you're asleep so you don't keep waking yourself up with it.   Good luck.
4/5/2007 7:41:12 PM EDT
[#28]
The diagnosis to your problem cannot easily be determined with the limited information provided.  It would help to know more specifically about how and where the pain is radiating from and to.  In addition, is there any trauma to the area tha could precievably have resulted in nerve damage.  Other than lifting weights, is there any other repetitive motions that you do with that elbow.

Either way, definitely see a doctor, preferably an orthopoedist.  Any other doctor will likely not provide you with the best treatment based on what you have discussed here.
4/5/2007 7:43:26 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
The ulnar nerve runs in a groove around the elbow and can easily become inflamed for a variety of reasons.  While it's not an emergency, I'd get it checked out.  You probably only need a little physical therapy and time.  The physical therapist can also fit you with a pad that will keep you from bending the elbow while you're asleep so you don't keep waking yourself up with it.   Good luck.


Thank you for the info.
4/5/2007 7:46:49 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
The diagnosis to your problem cannot easily be determined with the limited information provided.  It would help to know more specifically about how and where the pain is radiating from and to.  In addition, is there any trauma to the area tha could precievably have resulted in nerve damage.  Other than lifting weights, is there any other repetitive motions that you do with that elbow.

Either way, definitely see a doctor, preferably an orthopoedist.  Any other doctor will likely not provide you with the best treatment based on what you have discussed here.


I can't think of any repetitve motions that would have contributed to this pain.

I'm going to keep it on icy hot for another 5 days or so and then consider seeing a doctor. Unless, of course, it gets worse.

This pain has come from nowhere minus the prop eating the rock incident. But like I said earlier, the prop eating the rock did not result in immediate pain
4/6/2007 9:07:27 AM EDT
[#31]
Bump for the day crew
4/6/2007 1:50:17 PM EDT
[#32]
Do not continue to use the same arm all the time.  You must learn to alternate during the process, and with practice you can even swap hands and arms in mid stroke.

Just kidding--try ibuprofen 600mg three times daily.  not a MD just a Rx dispensing the meds.
4/7/2007 8:23:18 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Do not continue to use the same arm all the time.  You must learn to alternate during the process, and with practice you can even swap hands and arms in mid stroke.

Just kidding--try ibuprofen 600mg three times daily.  not a MD just a Rx dispensing the meds.


Thanks for the info! I'll give it a try.
4/7/2007 8:24:48 AM EDT
[#34]
I think we banned all the doctors.
4/8/2007 5:41:35 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
I think we banned all the doctors.


Like attorneys, everyone hates 'em till they need 'em.