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3/16/2007 8:36:37 AM EDT
Took the day off. Just got done shoveling the global warming, previously know as snow / ice/ slush, off my driveway. Called the oil company have another 100 gallons delivered to top the tank off. Brought a load of wood in from the back and stacked some in the house.

Anyone else doing any global warming chores today?

MIKE.
3/16/2007 8:40:37 AM EDT
[#1]
It'll probably be 75° here today.
3/16/2007 8:42:48 AM EDT
[#2]
Reshaped my tinfoil bonnet this morning. Does that count?
3/16/2007 8:44:43 AM EDT
[#3]
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?

Winter Warmest on Record Worldwide

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer

Thu Mar 15, 5:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON - This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.

The report said that during the past century, global temperatures have increased at about 0.11 degrees per decade. But that increase has been three times larger since 1976, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.

Most scientists attribute the rising temperatures to so-called greenhouse gases which are produced by industrial activities, automobiles and other processes. These gases build up in the atmosphere and trap heat from the sun somewhat like a greenhouse.

Also contributing to this winter's record warmth was an El Nino, a periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean. It was particularly strong in January — the warmest January ever — but the ocean surface has since begun to cool.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.

The late March date of the vernal equinox noted on most calendars notwithstanding, for weather and climate purposes northern winter is December, January and February.

For the United States, meanwhile, the winter temperature was near average. The season got off to a late start and spring-like temperatures covered most of the eastern half of the country in January, but cold conditions set in in February, which was the third coldest on record.

For winter, statewide temperatures were warmer than average from Florida to Maine and from Michigan to Montana while cooler-than-average temperatures occurred in the southern Plains and areas of the Southwest.

For Alaska, both February and winter were warmer than average but far from the record warmth of 2003 and 2001, respectively.
3/16/2007 9:01:38 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?



The Inquisitor appears... REPENT your evil words.


So what?


What warming that may be occurring has NOTHING to do with man… man made Global Warming is a lie. And BTW global warming proponents have used anecdotal evidence as proof for years.

Mountains of lies and bad computer models don't prove much either way.
3/16/2007 9:04:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Global Warming: Proof that liberals need a religion.
3/16/2007 9:08:48 AM EDT
[#6]

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.


How can it  be the warmest when NOAA say's it was just above average?  I'm sure the peoples of the rest of the WORLD to as good of temp records going back to 1880

ETA and that was with EL NINO
3/16/2007 9:08:58 AM EDT
[#7]
I think he was referring to this global warming (Anchorage Daily News Front Page today)


Homer ready to fish, but frozen harbor won't cooperate
ANCHORAGE ON TRACK TO SET RECORD FOR COLDEST MARCH

By SEAN PEARSON
Homer Tribune

Published: March 16, 2007
Last Modified: March 16, 2007 at 03:19 AM

HOMER -- Most winters, Norm Anderson merely has to climb aboard his boat in the harbor and make sure his oil-pan heater is still keeping the engine warm before he turns over the F/V Sea Otter for a winter king fishing excursion.

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"Whenever I go out to start it up, she just purrs like a kitten," said Anderson, owner and operator of Norm's Saltwater Adventures.

This year isn't much different. The Sea Otter's motor starts up fine, and Anderson is certainly ready to fish.

He just can't go anywhere. The reason?

"The ice is killing me," Anderson said. "I've had to cancel close to 50 trips this winter because I just can't get out of the harbor."

A frozen harbor is nothing new around Homer. In fact, Homer Harbormaster Steve Dean said it's actually fairly normal. The difference this year, however, is how late the ice is sticking around.

"Its a little later in the year for ice to be socked in the harbor," Dean said. "It usually happens sometime in December or January."

Anderson agreed, noting that he has been chartering since the mid-1990s and fishing the area for more than 20 years.

"Certain years, it just freezes up and you deal with it," he said. "But this one has lasted for a while, and it's costing me tens of thousands of dollars."

And for those looking for a reprieve from the imprisoning ice, National Weather Service warning coordination meteorologist Sam Albanese with the Anchorage office has some bad news: The low temperatures should last for days more.

"Right now, you guys in Homer are quite a bit off normal, with your low temperatures and high temperatures running around 15 degrees colder than usual," Albanese said.

Still, after 20 years of forecasting in Alaska, Albanese said the one thing he has learned is that the weather here just runs in extremes.

"Obviously, in Homer, you are moderated quite a bit by the ocean," he said. "But it's incredible how long this is persisting. And we don't see it letting up any time soon."

However, even if the ice were to let up and boats were able to escape, Dean said, he doesn't think the conditions are appropriate for smaller vessels.

"Its just not good fishing weather," Dean said. "The winds can change abruptly, and there is a lot of heavy freezing spray. When people go out on the water in this kind of weather, the ice really compromises our ability to respond to emergency incidents."

Anderson had a different slant on winter fishing.

"There are only a few of us guys who actually go out and fish year-round, and we've never run into any big problems," he said.

"It's not a matter of keeping people warm. I've got a nice, heated cabin that people can hang out in until the fish start biting. But when you can't even get out of the harbor, none of that really matters."

Dean is concerned because both Coast Guard ships that are normally stationed in Homer are not in port, and even if they were, neither is equipped for ice-breaking. In fact, any kind of emergency response would be tough.

"Currently, both our response harbor tug and our skiff are completely frozen in," Dean said.

With more than six inches of ice surrounding some boats, some owners are walking around their boats and between floats on the frozen harbor surface.

This has Dean worried, too.

"People need to know that it's not like walking out on Beluga Lake," he said. "Its very, very dangerous. There are tides shifting under the ice, and it's just not stable."

According to Dean, even the area around the mud flats can be dangerous.

"People really seem to like the novelty of walking on the harbor ice, but I know we have already lost a dog or two that went running on the flats and slipped between ice cracks," he said. "Things out there on the ice change quickly, and we just can't respond as promptly."

While Anderson and Dean may not agree on appropriate conditions for winter fishing, they both said they are ready for the ice to start clearing out so things can get back to normal.

"If we could get some big tides and southwest winds in there, it would clear that ice out in a matter of days," Anderson said. "We had some good tides recently, but those prevailing northeast winds just keep backing the ice further and further in."

And with commercial halibut season looming and a March 24 Winter King Salmon Tournament hinging on fishing-ground accessibility, everyone is eager to see things flowing freely again. That includes the organizer of all things fish derby-related, Homer Chamber of Commerce's Linda Winters.

"I am concerned about the icy harbor and have been thinking about it the past several days," she said. "My plan is to give it another week to see if it either warms up or blows away."

Anchorage on track to set record for coldest March

As Alaskans continue to endure frigid weather and blustery wind, March is headed to being one of the coldest on record, weather experts say.

If the cold hangs on, this year could beat 1956 as Anchorage's coldest. Wednesday and Thursday had average temperatures of about 5 degrees. Here are some weather facts and a look at how the cold is affecting life in Homer.

41 DAYS OF FREEZING

Anchorage hasn't recorded a temperature above freezing since Feb. 3. 9.2

DEGREES AVERAGE

Since Feb. 18, the average temperature in Anchorage has been 9.2 degrees.

1956 WAS THE COLDEST

Temperatures during this period averaged 7.2 degrees in 1956 -- the coldest on record.

MORE COLD IN THE FORECAST

Temperatures are expected to remain below freezing into early next week.

RECORD TIED WITH 1971

The 9.2-degree average for this time period was also recorded in 1971.

3/16/2007 9:10:18 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?


And anecdotal evidence that there even IS a normal condition for the planet Earth is hopelessly naive.

Conditions on earth are far larger than you are, and there will be glaciers, swamps, oceans and mountains covering the spot you are sitting many times over, long after the rumor of mankind has been forgotten.

Deal with your insignificance.
3/16/2007 9:10:45 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?

Winter Warmest on Record Worldwide

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer

Thu Mar 15, 5:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON - This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.

The report said that during the past century, global temperatures have increased at about 0.11 degrees per decade. But that increase has been three times larger since 1976, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.

Most scientists attribute the rising temperatures to so-called greenhouse gases which are produced by industrial activities, automobiles and other processes. These gases build up in the atmosphere and trap heat from the sun somewhat like a greenhouse.

Also contributing to this winter's record warmth was an El Nino, a periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean. It was particularly strong in January — the warmest January ever — but the ocean surface has since begun to cool.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.

The late March date of the vernal equinox noted on most calendars notwithstanding, for weather and climate purposes northern winter is December, January and February.

For the United States, meanwhile, the winter temperature was near average. The season got off to a late start and spring-like temperatures covered most of the eastern half of the country in January, but cold conditions set in in February, which was the third coldest on record.

For winter, statewide temperatures were warmer than average from Florida to Maine and from Michigan to Montana while cooler-than-average temperatures occurred in the southern Plains and areas of the Southwest.

For Alaska, both February and winter were warmer than average but far from the record warmth of 2003 and 2001, respectively.
Question: How can it be GLOBAL, if the conditions are normal over a significant part of the globe?
Yes, you can take the average of temperatures distributed over the planet all you want, but HOW does that make the warming truly global?
3/16/2007 9:12:29 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?

Winter Warmest on Record Worldwide

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer

Thu Mar 15, 5:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON - This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.

The report said that during the past century, global temperatures have increased at about 0.11 degrees per decade. But that increase has been three times larger since 1976, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.

Most scientists attribute the rising temperatures to so-called greenhouse gases which are produced by industrial activities, automobiles and other processes. These gases build up in the atmosphere and trap heat from the sun somewhat like a greenhouse.

Also contributing to this winter's record warmth was an El Nino, a periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean. It was particularly strong in January — the warmest January ever — but the ocean surface has since begun to cool.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.

The late March date of the vernal equinox noted on most calendars notwithstanding, for weather and climate purposes northern winter is December, January and February.

For the United States, meanwhile, the winter temperature was near average. The season got off to a late start and spring-like temperatures covered most of the eastern half of the country in January, but cold conditions set in in February, which was the third coldest on record.

For winter, statewide temperatures were warmer than average from Florida to Maine and from Michigan to Montana while cooler-than-average temperatures occurred in the southern Plains and areas of the Southwest.

For Alaska, both February and winter were warmer than average but far from the record warmth of 2003 and 2001, respectively.


Ever hear of the Holocene Maximum?
3/16/2007 9:13:12 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?

Winter Warmest on Record Worldwide

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer

Thu Mar 15, 5:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON - This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.

The report said that during the past century, global temperatures have increased at about 0.11 degrees per decade. But that increase has been three times larger since 1976, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.

Most scientists attribute the rising temperatures to so-called greenhouse gases which are produced by industrial activities, automobiles and other processes. These gases build up in the atmosphere and trap heat from the sun somewhat like a greenhouse.

Also contributing to this winter's record warmth was an El Nino, a periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean. It was particularly strong in January — the warmest January ever — but the ocean surface has since begun to cool.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.

The late March date of the vernal equinox noted on most calendars notwithstanding, for weather and climate purposes northern winter is December, January and February.

For the United States, meanwhile, the winter temperature was near average. The season got off to a late start and spring-like temperatures covered most of the eastern half of the country in January, but cold conditions set in in February, which was the third coldest on record.

For winter, statewide temperatures were warmer than average from Florida to Maine and from Michigan to Montana while cooler-than-average temperatures occurred in the southern Plains and areas of the Southwest.

For Alaska, both February and winter were warmer than average but far from the record warmth of 2003 and 2001, respectively.
Question: How can it be GLOBAL, if the conditions are normal over a significant part of the globe?
Yes, you can take the average of temperatures distributed over the planet all you want, but HOW does that make the warming truly global?


Global warming means whatever they want it to mean.  That way whenever something notable happens, it can be blamed on global warming!  Neat trick huh?

I have a rock that keeps away tigers!
3/16/2007 9:13:48 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You mean this global warming?  When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?

Winter Warmest on Record Worldwide

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer

Thu Mar 15, 5:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON - This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880.

The report said that during the past century, global temperatures have increased at about 0.11 degrees per decade. But that increase has been three times larger since 1976, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center reported.

Most scientists attribute the rising temperatures to so-called greenhouse gases which are produced by industrial activities, automobiles and other processes. These gases build up in the atmosphere and trap heat from the sun somewhat like a greenhouse.

Also contributing to this winter's record warmth was an El Nino, a periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean. It was particularly strong in January — the warmest January ever — but the ocean surface has since begun to cool.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.

The late March date of the vernal equinox noted on most calendars notwithstanding, for weather and climate purposes northern winter is December, January and February.

For the United States, meanwhile, the winter temperature was near average. The season got off to a late start and spring-like temperatures covered most of the eastern half of the country in January, but cold conditions set in in February, which was the third coldest on record.

For winter, statewide temperatures were warmer than average from Florida to Maine and from Michigan to Montana while cooler-than-average temperatures occurred in the southern Plains and areas of the Southwest.

For Alaska, both February and winter were warmer than average but far from the record warmth of 2003 and 2001, respectively.


Ever hear of the Holocene Maximum?

fuck that
Ever heard of -18F this morning?
Fucking gonna burn Al gore till this global warming thing starts to pan out.
3/16/2007 9:15:23 AM EDT
[#13]
You guys have to read Mr. Chrighton's book: State of Fear,great book on the bullshit known as Global Warming.
3/16/2007 9:16:54 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
You guys have to read Mr. Chrighton's book: State of Fear,great book on the bullshit known as Global Warming.


Crichton
3/16/2007 9:21:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Global grilling tonight
3/16/2007 9:35:07 AM EDT
[#16]
And in Juneau


Web posted February 20, 2007

Eaglecrest ranked No. 1 for deepest snow
Ski area tops world list with 180 inches; Washington's Mount Baker boasts 171
By ERIC MORRISON
JUNEAU EMPIRE


Brian Wallace / Juneau Empire
 Taking advantage of the snow: Burke Bohnjack, an employee of the Eaglecrest Ski School, enjoys a run Monday at the ski area in Juneau.
Local skiers and snowboarders have more to celebrate this year than Eaglecrest's 30th anniversary - Juneau's ski area has a deeper snowpack than any other in the world.

Link




Today's forecast


AKZ025-170100-
JUNEAU BOROUGH AND NORTHERN ADMIRALTY ISLAND-
INCLUDING...JUNEAU
600 AM ADT FRI MAR 16 2007

...HEAVY SNOW WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM ADT FRIDAY TO 6 AM ADT
SATURDAY...
.TODAY...SNOW. SNOW ACCUMULATION 4 TO 6 INCHES. HIGHS AROUND 32.
EAST WIND 15 MPH.  
.TONIGHT...SNOW. SNOW ACCUMULATION 4 TO 6 INCHES. LOWS AROUND 27.
LIGHT WINDS BECOMING SOUTH 15 MPH LATE. CHANCE OF SNOW
90 PERCENT.
3/16/2007 9:40:15 AM EDT
[#17]

You mean this global warming? When are people going to wake up and realize that anecdotal evidence of normal conditions in a small, localized area is not the same as mountains of quantitative, statistical evidence?


When they come up with some quality statistical evidense?

Yeah, it's getting slightly warmer. It happens. It's been warmer than this and cooler than this.

I find it amazingly arrogant that people think they can control nature by slightly altering the CO2 level (a trace gas) over a few decades, provided a volcano doesn't  erupt and put more CO2 in the air, in a few weeks, than mankind has in the last 50 years.

What are you going to do, ban solar flares and volcanos?

Idiots...
3/16/2007 9:41:02 AM EDT
[#18]
"The ice age is comin',
the sun zoomin' in.
Engine's stop runnin',
the wheat is growin' thin"
3/16/2007 9:41:50 AM EDT
[#19]
Danish scientist: Global warming is a myth

COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 15 (UPI) --  A Danish scientist said the idea of a "global temperature" and global warming is more political than scientific.

University of Copenhagen Professor Bjarne Andresen has analyzed the topic in collaboration with Canadian Professors Christopher Essex from the University of Western Ontario and Ross McKitrick of the University of Guelph.

It is generally assumed the Earth's atmosphere and oceans have grown warmer during the recent 50 years because of an upward trend in the so-called global temperature, which is the result of complex calculations and averaging of air temperature measurements taken around the world.

"It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth," said Andresen, an expert on thermodynamics. "A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate".

He says the currently used method of determining the global temperature -- and any conclusion drawn from it -- is more political than scientific.

The argument is presented in the Journal of Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics.
3/16/2007 9:45:26 AM EDT
[#20]
February here was way, way below normal temperatures. Same thing so far for March.

I remember three years ago when Boston Harbor was closed due to ice. Imagine that. Boston Harbor needing an Ice Breaker to open up the shipping lanes.

Of course, that was due to global warming.
3/16/2007 9:46:25 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Ever hear of the Holocene Maximum?

fuck that
Ever heard of -18F this morning?


God, I love ARFCOM.
3/16/2007 10:45:59 AM EDT
[#22]
We survived the Medieval Warm Period, as we survived the Little Ice Age. Civilizations thrived during the Medieval Warming Period.

Remember kids, the headlines on Newsweek in 1975 was "The Coming Ice Age"

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21361191-421,00.htm  "A LEADING Muslim cleric has blamed the devastating drought, climate change and pollution on Australians' lack of faith in Allah.

Might just as well stir some chicken guts...heck,  the weather report can't tell me if it's going to rain 3 days from now...and I'm supposed to swallow the bullsh*t that these same computer models are going predict with absolute certainty what's going to happen 100 years from now ???

Garbage In  --  Garbage Out
3/16/2007 10:49:07 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
"The ice age is comin',
the sun zoomin' in.
Engine's stop runnin',
the wheat is growin' thin"


Not worried, I live by the river.
3/16/2007 12:34:48 PM EDT
[#24]
Just a friendly heads-up for our lefty viewers:
    The Earth has been warming since the last ice-age.
    The polar caps on Mars are melting too;  What kind of vehicles do they have there?
Okay, sorry. Too easy. What pollutants are their power plants spewing into Mars' atmosphere?
    How arrogant can we be to think that our little piss-ant presence here can affect anything that the earth can't repair?
    Anybody got a wood house?
    Nope, Mother Nature sure isn't trying to return that sucker into dust is it?
    Yeah, ALGORE hasn't bothered to remind us that the Antarctic is GROWING.
    The North Polar icecap melting, raising our ocean level..... run for the hills everybody!!!!
    Oops, that's right.
    The North Polar cap is made of ICE, just ICE.
    When the ice in your drink melts, does the glass overflow? (Don't bother checking, it doesn't)
    Holy crap, This clown was almost President?!!!!!  
    Democrats.
    Relying on the uneducated for over a hundred years.