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2/15/2007 9:43:29 AM EDT
dunno if this is a Dupe
If so sorry.



Pork Dipped Bullets
According to this Cavalry Scout, the pork makes the insurgent "un-clean" and sending him into hell on death.
2/15/2007 9:48:57 AM EDT
[#1]
In the Crimean war (1854-1856),  Tsar Nicholas I spread the "information" to the Ottomans (allied with the French) that the musketballs in the paper cartridges of the day were lubed with porkfat.  The Muslim Ottomans (Turks) refused to bite the ball out of the cartridge (normal loading procedure) because of it, until the French could supply them with "clean" ammo.  

We could bomb them with pork trimmings/guts from the pork industry.  I'm sure the USA produced tons of waste.  Of course, you'd have to give up your Ballpark franks then.
2/15/2007 9:50:03 AM EDT
[#2]
urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jack_pershing.htm
2/15/2007 9:51:35 AM EDT
[#3]
This would only be effective if the enemy Knows that you are using them

It is a waste of time
2/15/2007 9:53:41 AM EDT
[#4]
My personal opinion - stupid, because President Bush keeps going out of his way to point out that this war isn't about religion, and something like that certainly will not HELP to get everyday Iraqis to want to help U.S. and Iraqi troops to idntify the terrorists and insurgents hiding among them. We need to KILL the insurgents and their supporters, not go out of our way to piss off all the people on the sidelines, who we need on our side in order to win.

And my GUESS is that the person who made the video is probably some keyboard commando, not an actual military "Cav Scout" at all.  (Apologies, of course, if I am wrong)


As an aside, I believe the Indian Mutiny of 1857 was partly triggered because local troops mistakenly believe the Brits were using grease made from pork fat for their bullets.

2/15/2007 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Oh for fuck's sake...

Muslims aren't AFRAID OF PORK. They just don't eat it. God this shit makes us look like morons.
2/15/2007 10:01:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Nixon suggested shooting the Viet Cong with Chicken McNuggets.
2/15/2007 10:04:58 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Nixon suggested shooting the Viet Cong with Chicken McNuggets.


What a vindictive bastard, those weren't even invented until the early 80's.  He really had a hard on for killing the VC.
2/15/2007 10:06:23 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Oh for fuck's sake...

Muslims aren't AFRAID OF PORK. They just don't eat it. God this shit makes us look like morons.


Keep in mind, though, that if you are talking about the foaming-at-the-mouth Muslim extremists, they might be MORE "afraid" of it because of wacky fundamentalist beliefs.  In any event, the actual terrorists woudl probably be pissed off by this kind of thing, which would then hopefully make them irrational, or make them take risks - and thus easier to kill.

I just think it's a stupid and juvenile idea because it has to potential to piss of all the wrong people, who we need on our side, and not just piss off the right people.

But I agree with your sentiment - muslims in general do not "fear" pork.  In fact in the Koran, it says that they can eat pork, in special cases like starvation (and I assume being tricked into it or doing it without their knowledge).  It certainly doesn't say that they'll got to hell.



One thing that I never figured out is why so many muslims don't seem to like dogs, and don't want to touch dogs?  Is that also some "unclean" thing?
2/15/2007 10:08:32 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Nixon suggested shooting the Viet Cong with Chicken McNuggets.


WTF does McDonald's make them out of? DUC?
2/15/2007 10:10:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Fuck it.  If there's a hell, the insurgents are going there anyways regardless of what food product the bullets are dipped into.

They'll find out soon enough.  Shoot them.

ETA:  Come to think of it, they are already in hell.  A world where I can't eat bacon is a world I wouldn't want to be in.  No wonder they're so grumpy.
2/15/2007 10:13:24 AM EDT
[#11]
So is it true that Jimmy Dean is opening an ammo factory now?  


CJ
2/15/2007 10:18:43 AM EDT
[#12]
We've been over this before: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=545294


"He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits - then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful"

--Sura 2:173

"Forbidden to you (your food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; than which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject Faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful"

--Sura 5:3


"Say: I find not in the message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be dead meat, or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine, for it is an abomination or, what is impious, (meat) on which a name has been invoked, other than Allah's. But (even so), if a person is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits, thy Lord is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful"

--Sura 6:145

"He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than Allah has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful"
--Sura 16:115


Not considered a sin according to Islam. Waste of food, good way to foul a bore, and childish.
2/15/2007 10:20:55 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nixon suggested shooting the Viet Cong with Chicken McNuggets.


What a vindictive bastard, those weren't even invented until the early 80's.  He really had a hard on for killing the VC.


It just took that long to develop a non-weaponized version.
2/15/2007 10:22:45 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
So is it true that Jimmy Dean is opening an ammo factory now?  


CJ


/2008/ Midway has JD M193 at $240 a case! /2008/
2/15/2007 10:24:28 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Oh for fuck's sake...

Muslims aren't AFRAID OF PORK. They just don't eat it. God this shit makes us look like morons.


+1


And it was the Sepoy Mutiny that started over what kind of fat was used in the bullets.
The Hindus were told it was cow, the Muslims that it was pig.
2/15/2007 10:25:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Do you think I could add that as the last stage on a Dillion press.
2/15/2007 10:27:40 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nixon suggested shooting the Viet Cong with Chicken McNuggets.


What a vindictive bastard, those weren't even invented until the early 80's.  He really had a hard on for killing the VC.


It just took that long to develop a non-weaponized version.


The CIA and DuPont were working on McNuggets in the late 50's. Unknown to most, but
Robert McNamara was the first Ronald McDonald. Look at the two names...any idiot can
see the connection. The clowns code name was ROMAC.
2/15/2007 10:30:03 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
So is it true that Jimmy Dean is opening an ammo factory now?  


CJ


I'd totally be willing to pay a little more for my ammo if it had an enticing aroma of bacon (or italian sausage) when fired, instead of the current gunpowder smell.
2/15/2007 10:45:28 AM EDT
[#19]
What a stupid thread.  Everyone knows that the only way to send them straight to hell is by crop-dusting their mosques with Israeli menstrual blood.  
2/15/2007 3:18:18 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
What a stupid thread.  Everyone knows that the only way to send them straight to hell is by crop-dusting their mosques with Israeli menstrual blood.  


doesnt this belong the the "most vulgar thing you've heard" thread?