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2/7/2007 5:37:34 AM EDT
I'm selling a camera on craigslist for $150.  I live in VA.  I received this e-mail from someone claiming to be in LA.  they offer $200 + paying for shipping.  My guess is that they have a bunch of counterfit $200 money orders and this is a scam.  

what should I do? Ignore, Report (to who?), draw down?  


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: XXXXXX>
To: XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Soyn Cyber-shot 5.0 Megapixel Digital Camera - $150


Am so greatful for the reply...am located in Kenner LA....am so happy that the item is still available cos this is my first time of buying things here on craigslist and right now i will like to make the immediate purchase of the item from you....i want to present the item to my son, he's been sick for a while now ...i guess this is gonna make him happy and make him get well soon....I will like to offer you $200 for the item including packaging .

Abount the shipping i do have an acct with DHL and also FedEx Express, so theres no need for you to waste any money on that cos i can arrange the shipping via my account and the shipping charges will be deducted from my account...

Now i will liketo sent the Money via MoneyGram Delivery Service which is safe and reliable, so that cash can be delivered to you...i will need your full name and address where you want the cash delivered also with your phone number...Get back to me with the required information so i can have the cash sent as soon as possible...

How MoneyGram Works..............MoneyGram has an express delivery that all cash is delivered through and as soon as i have send the cash through them they have to verify your name and address to make sure that they are correct after this will they confirm the payment will be confirmed, then it will be approved for immediate dispatch...Then you will be sent a confirmation letter and a confirmation # which you will have to provide when there delivery man comes to your place for delivery of your cash to show that you are the bonafide recipient of the Money...As soon as you get the confirmation # you will have to get back to me so i can arrange for shipping then send you all the required shipping documents for you to get the item shipped out and also, you will be able to send the tracking# to MoneyGram for verification and they will make the immediate dispatch of your Money for delivery then send you the estimated delivery date of your Money........

Let me know......

2/7/2007 5:40:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Tell him to go pound sand.

Anyone who offers you more than your asking price and wants to pay by an obscure check or money order is a SCAMMER,  PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.


CJ
2/7/2007 5:41:37 AM EDT
[#2]
RUN RUN RUN!!!

Nice try with the sick son to tug at your heart strings. The shipping account and overpaying would be my first red flags.
2/7/2007 5:42:01 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Tell him to go pound sand.

Anyone who offers you more than your asking price and wants to pay by an obscure check or money order is a SCAMMER,  PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.


CJ


+1
2/7/2007 5:42:09 AM EDT
[#4]
McFly, hello!!

Dude, this is the oldest internet scam!! It's a nigerian scammer. Why don't you play around with him by sending him to Western Union a few times  
2/7/2007 5:42:24 AM EDT
[#5]
USPS MO or no
2/7/2007 5:44:38 AM EDT
[#6]
This is a scam we are seeing alot of here in Washington.  As a matter of fact, I took a report from a lady selling two Shi Tzu puppies here in the town where I work last week.  

It's a scam like the Nigeriran one that was going around, just a new twist of using a money order. The really poor english tells you it is from a foreign country.  When cash is sent outside the US, it becomes "untraceable" and the company (Western Union or Moneygram etc) can not and will not refund your money.   Avoid it like the plague.

I wouldn't bother reporting it.  Law Enforcement agencies are well aware of this scam as it is almost a year old now.  If you fell for it and lost money, then I would report it but it sounds like you are smarter than the usual bear.
2/7/2007 5:44:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Watch out for those; more and more, people are using Money Orders to scam people on the major internet auction sites, like eBay.

They tend to overpay ($400 money order for a $150 item) and then ask you to send the excess back. BIG RED FLAG; the money orders often look very real, but they are often faked or "washed" (removing ink marks on Money Orders that have already been cashed); I have an acquaintance get into deep trouble with the USPS because he was a victim of a scammer using falsified USPS Money Orders. I mean, why would someone want to pay you more money than expected on an item then asks you to send the money back? Sounds like a scam to me.

You can contact the US Postal Inspector if you receive these "Money Orders" and they are USPS, or American Express f they are A/E, but whatever you do; DON'T SEND YOUR ITEM OR CASH THE MONEY ORDER; then they'll win.
2/7/2007 5:47:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Paging Butch Driveshaft.

Mr Driveshaft, please call your office.
2/7/2007 5:48:49 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
This is a scam we are seeing alot of here in Washington.  As a matter of fact, I took a report from a lady selling two Shi Tzu puppies here in the town where I work last week.  

It's a scam like the Nigeriran one that was going around, just a new twist of using a money order. The really poor english tells you it is from a foreign country.  When cash is sent outside the US, it becomes "untraceable" and the company (Western Union or Moneygram etc) can not and will not refund your money.   Avoid it like the plague.

I wouldn't bother reporting it.  Law Enforcement agencies are well aware of this scam as it is almost a year old now.  If you fell for it and lost money, then I would report it but it sounds like you are smarter than the usual bear.


haha - for one year now?? This Western Union scam has been going on since the fax machine was invented.

For a good laugh go see THIS site
2/7/2007 5:49:19 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

,snip>

... it sounds like you are smarter than the usual avereage bear.


FIxed it for ya!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.
2/7/2007 5:51:29 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

,snip>

... it sounds like you are smarter than the usual avereage average bear.


FIxed it for ya!

Sorry, couldn't help myself.


bwahaha - fixed it for you
2/7/2007 5:52:13 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
RUN RUN RUN!!!

Nice try with the sick son to tug at your heart strings. The shipping account and overpaying would be my first red flags.


Actually I didn't care about the kid, it was the extra $50 bucks that was tempting...

So my suspicions were confirmed: it's a scam.  what should I do?  Is there an "agency" I can report this to and let them handle it?
2/7/2007 5:55:04 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Actually I didn't care about the kid, it was the extra $50 bucks that was tempting...

So my suspicions were confirmed: it's a scam.  what should I do?  Is there an "agency" I can report this to and let them handle it?


You're joking, right

Just let it go, dood. . .I get literally hundreds of these a day (i'm a scambaiter)
2/7/2007 6:51:51 AM EDT
[#14]

Sounds legit to me.

Send him the camera, dude.  I'm sure he'll send the money, if not immediately, then as soon as is son gets better.  Man, that's too bad about his son.




2/7/2007 7:14:20 AM EDT
[#15]
Mail them a turd
2/7/2007 7:14:45 AM EDT
[#16]
Take his bogus check,  wait until it bounces and then send him a box of rocks.



CJ
2/7/2007 7:20:38 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Mail them a turd


2/7/2007 7:36:43 AM EDT
[#18]
I have had this happen to me every time I list something on craigslist.  Go tothis site and put his IPaddress in and find out where he is.  I promise he is in Nigera.  You can try and report it but they will not do anything because he has not done anything wrong as of yet.  Well, at least thats what HPD said.  Mail him back and tell him you are not interested in his offer.  Or go to scambaiter.com and toy with him.
2/7/2007 8:23:44 AM EDT
[#19]
lets see, all you get is a confirmation number, then you ship, then wait the Money Gram Man to swing on by!
2/7/2007 8:31:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Ask him if he is really from the Nigerian Consulate of Diplomatic Agency.



eta
geez FUCK....what ever happened to "I'll take it"

eta2
the 900 page disertation was the first Red Flag
2/7/2007 8:42:27 AM EDT
[#21]
Does he have an extra mill that he needs to get out of the country ASAP??
2/7/2007 8:51:37 AM EDT
[#22]
My mother and sister listed some furniture on Craigslist and got a message from somebody claiming to be from India and moving to the US soon. They wanted to send a cashier’s check for the full amount even though a “or best offer” was noted in the price. They were then going to have movers come pickup the furniture. My mother called and asked me about it and the first thing that popped into my mind was SCAM. I told her not to talk to those people and to only sell their stuff for cash and Face to Face.
2/7/2007 8:59:06 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Mail them a turd


No,because then the buyer might send "the hammer of dead"

Tell him you won't fall for that scam.Instead, tell him you will send your bank account number so he can deposit the $200  
2/7/2007 9:20:41 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Mail them a turd


No,because then the buyer might send "the hammer of dead"

Tell him you won't fall for that scam.Instead, tell him you will send your bank account number so he can deposit the $200  


Mr. Avila:   Are you now, or have you ever been, affiliated with the "clique mob"???

2/7/2007 9:31:48 AM EDT
[#25]
I would guess craiglist might be interested. They might be able to trace the email address and insure these idiots are not scamming to sell something on the site. Other than that, send them something dead.