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12/11/2006 4:25:59 PM EDT
So I'm reading Malcolm X right now and I'm around page 200 in the book. I have never really known what it was about until I started reading it, but I heard it was a great book thats well worth the read. It wasn't too bad until he gets his initiation to Islam. Does anyone else think this book is EXTREMELY racist towards white people? I mean, isn't religion supposed to make you grow closer to others, not call them the devil and genetic malfunctions? You don't see Christians making fun of Muslims, or any other people for that matter. I honestly don't know how teachers can make students read this in school. Opinions?
12/11/2006 4:35:20 PM EDT
[#1]
it's only racist when its the crackas putting down the black man. where you bin all your life?
12/11/2006 4:37:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Duh.
12/11/2006 4:37:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Malcolm X was a racial separatist and I really do not see a problem with what he had to say.  He was for the most part correct.  When you are treated badly, cheated, raped, robbed and generally screwed by white people, why continue to live with them and abide this sort of treatment?

If you keep reading you will find out that he became enlightened at some point.  He realized that the teachings of Elijah Muhammad were complete and total crap not based on Islam, his mentor had fathered several children by several women(out of wedlock) and was an overall shit bag.

He was killed by followers of his own religion and more than likely the FBI had plenty of advanced warning and did nothing to stop it.  He was killed because he was popular and for the most part correct.  His personal fame threatened the NOI and when he converted to Islam he had the ability to take plenty of NOI followers with him.  

He supported economic boycotts against companies that cheated or took advantage of blacks and separation of races if no reasonable accommodation could take place.  At the time this was not such a terrible idea, considering how blacks were treated to simply go to school or work.  Since gun owners embrace the idea of boycotts against companies that fail to respect our rights we have common ground with the man.

He is a lot more colorful than the dreaded MLK and these days gets a lot less attention.  His view was the counterpoint to that stupid "I have a dream" crap.  You can dislike the message or dislike the man and still respect the way he delivered it and the different point of view.  He was light years ahead of hillbillies in sheets in the area of public discourse.
12/11/2006 5:35:07 PM EDT
[#4]
You need to open your eyes a little if you think christians don't bias against other people. Or at least those who call themselves christians. Something tells me plenty of KKK dirtbags think of themselves as Christians. As far as the rest of it on Malcom X Lone gunman was right on the money.
12/11/2006 6:44:31 PM EDT
[#5]
ok, there may be christians who are racists. However, no where in the New Testament ( I stress new, because them jews be hatin on them gentiles way back in the old) does it say to persecute another race. It was an open teaching in Malcolm X. I admit that I havn't read to the point when he says that he doesnt agree with all muhammed's teachings, I'm just pointing out what I have read so far
12/11/2006 7:01:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Finish the book. He converted from NOI to orthodox Islam, and his racial views were pretty radically smended.
12/11/2006 7:06:36 PM EDT
[#7]
Rent the movie "X" but it was boring it shoulda been named "Zzzzz"
12/11/2006 7:17:39 PM EDT
[#8]
He had great taste in classic firearms.






And long before "Vote from the rooftops" was ever dreamed up, The Ballot or the bullet was very popular. (<---Very Anti-Democrat!)





Personally, I liked the post NOI Malcolm a lot,  which is a stark contrast from what a lot of people think they know about him. I think that late life Malcolm scared a lot more people than the early  Racist Seperatist Malcolm. The man didnt want the leader he could easily become, NOI & EM didnt want their cash cow taken away, enemies agreed he was a threat to the status quo.

Regardless of todays positions or standards on life them, the "kill devils" message NOI espoused was a direct byproduct of Jim Crow, strange fruit, etc., and it was easy for Black masses to follow that message. Malcolm going against that message would have sent the NOI down the drain.


12/11/2006 10:37:07 PM EDT
[#9]
There were always rumors about the FBI or the CIA that ordered the hit, but the hit came from with the Nation of Islam, Elijah Mohammed had more to fear from X than the US gubmint feared X. It was clear that X would have moved on Elijah soon as a young Turk would in the mafia, so Elijah hit him first. no one gained more from X hit than Elijah.
12/11/2006 10:56:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Malcom X was a racist?

Next you're going to tell me that Adolf Hitler hated jews right?
12/12/2006 1:39:00 PM EDT
[#11]
yo momma so fat.......


.......last time she wore a malcolm x shirt a helicopter tried to land on her.

my hommage to malcolm
12/12/2006 1:42:41 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
You don't see Christians making fun of Muslims, or any other people for that matter.


New around here?






But yeah when he went all radical Nation of Islam, black-power, he just became a bigot really.
12/12/2006 1:43:36 PM EDT
[#13]
Speaking of NOI, obligatory mention that they were strongly believed to have accepted funding from Imperial Japan during WWII.
12/13/2006 2:24:35 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Malcolm X was a racial separatist and I really do not see a problem with what he had to say.  He was for the most part correct.  When you are treated badly, cheated, raped, robbed and generally screwed by white people, why continue to live with them and abide this sort of treatment?

If you keep reading you will find out that he became enlightened at some point.  He realized that the teachings of Elijah Muhammad were complete and total crap not based on Islam, his mentor had fathered several children by several women(out of wedlock) and was an overall shit bag.

He was killed by followers of his own religion and more than likely the FBI had plenty of advanced warning and did nothing to stop it.  He was killed because he was popular and for the most part correct.  His personal fame threatened the NOI and when he converted to Islam he had the ability to take plenty of NOI followers with him.  

He supported economic boycotts against companies that cheated or took advantage of blacks and separation of races if no reasonable accommodation could take place.  At the time this was not such a terrible idea, considering how blacks were treated to simply go to school or work.  Since gun owners embrace the idea of boycotts against companies that fail to respect our rights we have common ground with the man.

He is a lot more colorful than the dreaded MLK and these days gets a lot less attention.  His view was the counterpoint to that stupid "I have a dream" crap.  You can dislike the message or dislike the man and still respect the way he delivered it and the different point of view.  He was light years ahead of hillbillies in sheets in the area of public discourse.

+1
I read the book by Alex Haley, and some other books too. It seems if he lived longer,  he could have actually become someone like MLK. During his time in NOI, he was a radical and undoubtly racist. However, after his trip to Mecca, he changed his course. Unfortunately, Alex Haley's book does not cover that transition and what followed that.