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12/4/2006 11:48:03 AM EDT
Alright, I've got a 98 dodge 4x4 with a 3-inch lift, BFG All terrains (when it's not wearing mud terrains), and only a piddly little 318 5.2 V8.

I get 9.9 miles to the gallon always.  Uphill, downhill, AC on/off, hauling ass or driving like a grandma.  9.9.  Always.  Is this normal for a truck such as mine or is something kinda wrong?  Also approaching 100,000 miles if that matters.

I run lucas injector cleaner every tank and usually run midgrade, if not premium.

(I also installed headers & exhaust thinking I might run a little bit more efficiently but it only brough me down from 10.5 mpg to 9.9)

So whatcha think?  Normal?  

ETA:  Running on 285/76/16, so I think it's about a 32' tire.
12/4/2006 11:51:10 AM EDT
[#1]
That doesn't sound right, even for a truck.
12/4/2006 11:51:46 AM EDT
[#2]
What size tires?
Axles been re-geared?

sad to say, but unless you are grossly overdue for a tune-up, this does sound about right.

12/4/2006 11:54:42 AM EDT
[#3]
What are your RPMs at say 65 MPH Above 2800?
12/4/2006 11:54:46 AM EDT
[#4]
Sounds good to me.  Mine, without the big tires or anything, straight from the factory in 1996 gets about 17 on the hwy if you set the cruise on 60 and about 12-13 in town or if you are doing any passing or anything.  Sounds like with the big tires and all you are about right.

Dan
12/4/2006 11:56:41 AM EDT
[#5]
probably about right.

if you want gas mileage get a car.
12/4/2006 11:57:01 AM EDT
[#6]
You would NEVER see over 11-12mpg with that setup without a diesel engine so good luck with that.
12/4/2006 11:59:44 AM EDT
[#7]
I didn't think anyone who drove lifted trucks calculated their MPG.  Buddy of mine did it once, and immediately undid all the work.  He got 7 mpg.

You are not going to improve on that much, and even if you change your gear ratio the changes will be small (think 10-20%, or about 2mpg best case).

shooter
12/4/2006 12:00:03 PM EDT
[#8]
i had a friend in highschool who had the same problem.  the same truck with the same engine.  3" lift with 33's.  less than 10 MPG.  i think it's to be expected.
12/4/2006 12:05:58 PM EDT
[#9]
I would say STOP using the cleaner.  The few times I have used it I noticed a decrease in MPG for that tank.  

Stop using medium grade gas.  You engine either needs low or high grade, and I doubt it needs high.

Big, heavy tires will not be good on gas either.


Did you get a tune for the headers and exhaust?  If so I would say 99% certain they went for power and not economy.  With a good econo tune you might get to 11-11.5mpg.

12/4/2006 12:08:09 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Alright, I've got a 98 dodge 4x4 with a 3-inch lift, BFG All terrains (when it's not wearing mud terrains), and only a piddly little 318 5.2 V8.

I get 9.9 miles to the gallon always.  Uphill, downhill, AC on/off, hauling ass or driving like a grandma.  9.9.  Always.  Is this normal for a truck such as mine or is something kinda wrong?  Also approaching 100,000 miles if that matters.

I run lucas injector cleaner every tank and usually run midgrade, if not premium.

(I also installed headers & exhaust thinking I might run a little bit more efficiently but it only brough me down from 10.5 mpg to 9.9)

So whatcha think?  Normal?  

ETA:  Running on 285/76/16, so I think it's about a 32' tire.


About what my all-time awd Grand Cherokee got w/ Pro Comp Mud Terrains and 175k on it.
12/4/2006 12:10:07 PM EDT
[#11]
I don't think that's right.  I get at least 12 MPG in my Land Rover.
12/4/2006 12:12:14 PM EDT
[#12]
My 2005 dodge RAM that is stock.  

V8, standard 6 speed transmission, regular cab, 8 foot bed.

I have 265 tires and no lift.  

I get 16mpg at best.  Usually around 14.  

The sticker listed it as 12 city 13 highway.
12/4/2006 12:14:43 PM EDT
[#13]
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.
12/4/2006 12:14:57 PM EDT
[#14]
I just hate knowing that Hummers get better mileage.  It bothers me on the inside.  (Although I'm taken my truck places hummer owners wouldn't dream, i.e., off mountains the hard way )

And I have a malibu to drive too.
12/4/2006 12:15:24 PM EDT
[#15]
I have a 1998 Ram 4x4 with the 360.

The engine has:
JBA headers and a three inch pipe after the cat with an Ultraflo muffler
JET stage one chip
Electric fans
K&N Intake

The truck has a six inch suspension lift and a three inch body lift, with 4.56 gears turning 37 inch Parnelli Jones Dirt Grip tires.

I get ten miles per gallon.

12/4/2006 12:18:09 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.


Fisrt of all your rig doesn't get that mileage and second of all your engine is the newer style.
Smaller and more HP, but less Torque and less off idle power.
12/4/2006 12:19:41 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
What size tires?
Axles been re-geared?

sad to say, but unless you are grossly overdue for a tune-up, this does sound about right.



+10

Bigger tires means that the highway speeds and fuel economy will be off...

The axel gear ratio will do the same..

12/4/2006 12:22:49 PM EDT
[#18]

The height is also one of the biggest factor.

Every inch = alot of extra gas
12/4/2006 12:28:41 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.


Fisrt of all your rig doesn't get that mileage and second of all your engine is the newer style.
Smaller and more HP, but less Torque and less off idle power.


+1

BEST I ever got in my Dakota was 19-and-change mpg highway. City driving I won't even go into because sometimes it is like 10 mpg.

I average 14-16 mpg in mixed driving.

Edit: 2003 Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 4.7l V8.
12/4/2006 12:33:22 PM EDT
[#20]
Lucas is good stuff, keep using it - it has actually improved mileage on many vehicles of family and friends.

I have a 1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4WD, with the V8 Magnum 360 (5.9 liter) as a BOV and I usually get around 14mpg.

The lift and huge tires is probably what's making the difference.
12/4/2006 12:36:47 PM EDT
[#21]
+2 on calling that BS unless your truck has magical gas mileage fairies in the engine.

you must have miscalculated.



Also, the people here comparing their non lifted rigs to the lifted rigs are giving false information, lifting a truck ALWAYS has severe mileage penalties.  the aerodynamic drag of a lifted truck at highway speed is enormous.



Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.


Fisrt of all your rig doesn't get that mileage and second of all your engine is the newer style.
Smaller and more HP, but less Torque and less off idle power.


+1

BEST I ever got in my Dakota was 19-and-change mpg highway. City driving I won't even go into because sometimes it is like 10 mpg.

I average 14-16 mpg in mixed driving.

Edit: 2003 Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 4.7l V8.
12/4/2006 12:38:08 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I don't think that's right.  I get at least 12 MPG in my Land Rover.


I get 10-11 in my 95 Disco.
12/4/2006 12:42:08 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I don't think that's right.  I get at least 12 MPG in my Land Rover.

I feel ya...10-13mpg in my discovery...although it weighs 6000# so that might have something to do with it.
12/4/2006 12:43:51 PM EDT
[#24]
You can be thankful that you get that good.

If you regeared it you could improve it some but then you would have more power and you would be in the throttle more so it would offset!

The 360's would get better mileage than the 318's on the 4x4's from veryone
I have seen.

BigDozer66
12/4/2006 12:47:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Anyone have a spare 360 in sourthern arizona they don't want?  Doh...
12/4/2006 12:53:09 PM EDT
[#26]
My 440 gets about 8mpg.
12/4/2006 1:04:32 PM EDT
[#27]
I have a 360 in my 96.  I get 13 usually.  I was getting 10 but then I replaced the 2 o2 sensors.

My mom has a 98 with the 318 (the 5.2) and she gets 17.

Is your MIL on?

Your o2 sensors may be trashed.

Have you ever replaced the wires,cap,rotor,and plugs?

Stop buying midgrade gas.  Your owner's manual says to use 87.  

Stop using all that cleaner.  You are pouring snake oil in your tank.  You can use a cleaner every oil change if you think you need it.  I do sometimes.

12/4/2006 1:13:02 PM EDT
[#28]
What 'MIL'?

I'll check on the sensors, but I replaced the plugs & wires, but not the cap & rotor.
12/4/2006 1:38:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Wrangler Rubicon gets about 11 on cheap gas. 10 if I accidentally give it higher octane.
12/4/2006 1:46:32 PM EDT
[#30]
I got 11mpg in my 2000 F150 with a 4.2L V6 and 2WD.  I sold it for that reason.
12/4/2006 1:59:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Damn that's nuts.  

Get a car.
12/4/2006 2:48:13 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
What 'MIL'?

I'll check on the sensors, but I replaced the plugs & wires, but not the cap & rotor.


Malfunction Indicator Lamp.  You might call it the antiquated "Check Engine Light."
12/4/2006 2:50:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Sounds like the polytronic combustion regulator.
12/4/2006 2:52:52 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Sounds like the polytronic combustion regulator.


It can't be.  He said he changed the muffler bearings and we all know you have to go through the PCR to get to those bearings.

Please, read the whole thread next time Rodent.

12/4/2006 2:56:50 PM EDT
[#35]
It's definately about right.

Numerous dodges as well as stock gas engine "chibbys" do about the same.

You sure can tell Rodents a pilot, Huh?
12/4/2006 3:07:43 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.


Fisrt of all your rig doesn't get that mileage and second of all your engine is the newer style.
Smaller and more HP, but less Torque and less off idle power.


IDK, thats what the ovrhead display says, i dont really have any way of checking otherwise...
12/4/2006 3:19:55 PM EDT
[#37]
10MPG?  
12/4/2006 3:23:45 PM EDT
[#38]
My 98 Ranger is on 33's and gets 16 mpg. This is with a 3.0 that couldn't catch a cold. I bet the milage would be better with a V8 conversion. Mileage might not be better but at least I could pass a Chevette.
12/4/2006 3:25:02 PM EDT
[#39]
My 92 Dakota 4x4 extra cab with the 318 and auto tranny would get about 11 around town and 20-22 on the highway at 80 mph.  The 00 Dakota 4x4 extra cab with the 4.7 and 5 speed I had would get about 9 in town and about 14 on the highway.  My old 98 Grand Cherokee with the high output 360, full time 4x4, 3.5" lift and 32" tires would get about 13 around town and 18 on the highway.
12/4/2006 3:27:19 PM EDT
[#40]
I was getting 13mpg in my 98 with the 318.  I traded it in for a new Tacoma in October because I got tired of replacing transmissions and adding a quart of oil every 200 miles.
12/4/2006 3:27:20 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
My 2000 Dodge Dakota, 4.9L V8 4X4, extended cab gets about 19 in city, and 22-24 on highway; the MPG increased alot after I changed my oil a while back, maybe thats a start. but 10MPG seems really low.


Fisrt of all your rig doesn't get that mileage and second of all your engine is the newer style.
Smaller and more HP, but less Torque and less off idle power.


IDK, thats what the ovrhead display says, i dont really have any way of checking otherwise...


Um,,Miles traveled divided by gallons used equals MPG,,,It is really that simple

300miles/30gallons=10mpg

Was that 6th or 7th grade math
12/4/2006 3:30:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Let's see, I've got a 2001 Dodge 2500 with a 6" lift and 37" x 13.50 tires, and I get 15 mpg



(but it's diesel, of course......)
12/4/2006 3:31:17 PM EDT
[#43]
I get 11 on both highway and city in a 98 durango with the same 5.2liter. I'd say with all the dumbass mods on yours its about right.
12/4/2006 3:37:51 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I would say STOP using the cleaner.  The few times I have used it I noticed a decrease in MPG for that tank.  

Stop using medium grade gas.  You engine either needs low or high grade, and I doubt it needs high.

Big, heavy tires will not be good on gas either.





Listen to this guy.

Using higher grade gas can actually lower your milage.  I had one car that would get 30mpg+ on cheapo gas, 22mpg on premium.

I get 15MPG out of my 'burban 4x4 with 265's on it.

18 mpg out of my stock '98 JGC.

12/4/2006 3:54:08 PM EDT
[#45]
your mileage isn't that off.

lose the lift, if you can't run 32s at stock height than get the sawsall. if you don't want to get the sawsall then run smaller tires.

give your truck a tuneup. (plugs, wires, air filter, oil filter, oil, cap, rotor, etc)
run it on regular 87 octane gas.
start planning ont he 360 swap. you're already getting 10 miles per gallon, might as well have some power.

have fun. ask questions.
12/4/2006 3:55:32 PM EDT
[#46]
2005 Ford F250 PSD Diesel

15 City
20 Hwy.

I'm happy
12/4/2006 3:56:58 PM EDT
[#47]
something else to consider-

Are you using 10% alchohol "oxygenated" gas?  I know my mileage would soar when I bought gas outside of the big city areas and dive when I bought gas in areas where smog laws mandate the 10% ethanol crap that the owners manual in my 98 Jeep's owners manual specifically stated to never use.
12/4/2006 4:01:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Sounds a bit low, but not that much.  I have a 97, with a 5.9, 3/4 ton suspension, and BFG 295 ATT/As.  I usually get 13 around town.  It goes up slightly on the highway.  A likely culprit for poor performance in these magnum engines is a leaking intake gasket.  Does it burn inordinate amounts of oil or smoke?  
12/4/2006 4:05:15 PM EDT
[#49]
I see 10 or so around town in my 95 chev 1/2 ton.  If I really try 12-13.  17-18 on the hiway.
12/4/2006 4:07:41 PM EDT
[#50]
When I am driving regular:     20MPH
When hauling empty trailer:    15MPH
When hauling loaded trailer:   10MPH



'98 GMC Sierra 1500, extended cab, short box (red)
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