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11/30/2006 7:58:33 AM EDT
SInce Michigan got moved back to #3 so that they would get good rating rating from an OSU/UCS East/West game, What happens to Michigan? DO they at least get a bowl game?

11/30/2006 8:01:24 AM EDT
[#1]
U of M?  who cares?!?  
11/30/2006 8:03:29 AM EDT
[#2]
relax, they're going to the Rose Bowl, since they can't score more than 42 points.

GO BUCKS!
11/30/2006 8:05:37 AM EDT
[#3]
Why don't you come down to New Orleans and play the Gators?

If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't play for the NC
11/30/2006 8:07:51 AM EDT
[#4]

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What happens to Michigan? DO they at least get a bowl game?

They go to the Rose Bowl and get to beat up on Brady Quinn again.
11/30/2006 8:10:46 AM EDT
[#5]

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Why don't you come down to New Orleans and play the Gators?

If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't play for the NC



Their are many problems with BCS, Because even if you do a certain other team who win their cant play you due to rules.

In 97 the championship got split between Nebraska and Michigan, yet they couldn't play each other in a championship game like they should have.

Yes michigan lost to OSU but it was only by three and the ONLY game they lost. All the other teams lost more games, or by more points than Michigan, plus they play each other every season so that rule is retarded IMO
11/30/2006 8:12:30 AM EDT
[#6]
the BCS sucks.
11/30/2006 8:12:33 AM EDT
[#7]

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If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't play for the NC


I actually agree with this and think that if the NCAA can't figure out how to implement a proper playoff -- with at least 4 teams (8 would be better) that teams should at least have to be a conference champion (by whatever rules the conference implements) before they can play in the NC game.

It must have hurt the Michigan fans to find themselves rooting for ND last weekend.  Ouch!  

- CD
11/30/2006 8:12:44 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What happens to Michigan? DO they at least get a bowl game?

They go to the Rose Bowl and get to beat up on Brady Quinn again.



[brady quinn] Oh hells noes! They hit too hard! [/brady quinn]


11/30/2006 8:12:53 AM EDT
[#9]
umm, yeah

note to nonconformist:

BCS sucks


carry on
11/30/2006 8:14:15 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What happens to Michigan? DO they at least get a bowl game?

They go to the Rose Bowl and get to beat up on Brady Quinn again.


I think USC has a spot in the Rose if they aren't playing for the NC.
11/30/2006 8:14:46 AM EDT
[#11]

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Yes michigan lost to OSU but it was only by three and the ONLY game they lost. All the other teams lost more games, or by more points than Michigan

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. They had their chance at #1 and blew it. There should not get a "do over" for all the marbles. How is that fair to Ohio State?


Quoted:
plus they play each other every season so that rule is retarded IMO

It is not a rule, just a semi-widely held opinion.
11/30/2006 8:25:30 AM EDT
[#12]

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had their chance at #1 and blew it. There should not get a "do over" for all the marbles. How is that fair to Ohio State?


Fair has got nothing to do with it.  As a long time Buckeye fan, I would welcome UM getting another shot IF the (stupid) BCS system says that's what happens.

I actually think the wolverines are the 2nd best team in the nation this year.  The one thing that all the UM fans have forgotten about is if they lose to OSU again, I doubt they'll ever get an opportunity to beat OSU 2x in one year.  

I'll put my money on Troy and Tressel -- against USC, Florida, or UM.  

Go Bucks.  I have my bowl tour reservations for Glendale in hand already -- should be a blast.  [:D)

- CD
11/30/2006 8:32:46 AM EDT
[#13]

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If you can't win your conference, you shouldn't play for the NC

That's nonsense.

If you're TRULY a "#2 ranked team and your only loss is to the #1 which just happens to also be in your conference, then why SHOULDN'T you play for the championship?

11/30/2006 8:43:38 AM EDT
[#14]
ROSE BOWL, Baby!



sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2680928

11/30/2006 8:45:09 AM EDT
[#15]
The BCS sucks, but this is just common sense.  WTF could a team lose it's conference and go on to the national championship?  

And if they did go on and win in Glendale, how could either team claim an outright championship after splitting the series?

Fact is, U of M should have lost their #2 ranking after they lost to Ohio State.  After losing they didn't deserve to keep thier ranking.

It must suck to be a meatchicken fan.


Headed for Glendale:



Headed for the unemployment line:





The difference between winners and losers:



Can you say Heisman?:



These three just crack me up:







GO BUCKS!!!







11/30/2006 8:53:06 AM EDT
[#16]

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Go Bucks.  I have my bowl tour reservations for Glendale in hand already -- should be a blast.  

Ditto. Where are you guys staying?
11/30/2006 8:54:33 AM EDT
[#17]
Um...you got your chance and lost.  Why in the world would you get to play them again.  And if you were to win wouldn't you have need to play the Buckeyes again to decide who is better?

11/30/2006 8:58:20 AM EDT
[#18]
The reason why Michigan shouldn't get a second chance is because we don't KNOW who has the strongest conference this year.  Everyone has their guess, but because the conferences largely don't play one another, we don't know who's the best.  So when you have a one loss SEC Champion, and a one loss PAC 10 champion, they should get the nod over a one-loss team who isn't the Big 10 Champion when the actual Big 10 Champion is already in the game.  Simple as that.
11/30/2006 9:38:18 AM EDT
[#19]

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Ditto. Where are you guys staying?


At either the Doubletree or the Embassy Suites.  The tour company has both hotels and we'll be in one or the other.  

Do you know where you're staying yet?

- CD
11/30/2006 9:43:27 AM EDT
[#20]
I can guaran-frickin-tee you that it will be LSU vs Michigan in the Rose Bowl.  

Whiney bunch of pouters used to want to get to the Rose Bowl every year.  I can tell you this, Bo is happy.

11/30/2006 11:09:47 AM EDT
[#21]

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Do you know where you're staying yet?

Amerisuites Phoenix. We booked the Monday after the NW game and the monday after the Michigan game, our tour was sold out. It is going to be Columbus-west out there, just like in 2002.

There is something awesome about walking through the Tempe mall and shout "O-H" and get about thirty "I-O"s

11/30/2006 11:13:03 AM EDT
[#22]
Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.
11/30/2006 11:17:19 AM EDT
[#23]
LSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSULSU
11/30/2006 11:20:35 AM EDT
[#24]
Its interesting how everyone forgets there was football before Tressel.   Coopers was 2-10-1.  Not to mention UM leads in total victories.

Enjoy it now because the tide will turn again.  Sweater vest  and Smith will be gone to the NFL before you know it.
11/30/2006 11:25:47 AM EDT
[#25]

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Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.


The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins and winning percentage.

The University of Michigan remains the only school in NCAA history to win at least one national championship in all four of these sports: baseball, basketball (men's), football, and ice hockey (men's).

Ohio State just needs to win the next 17 consecutive games against UofM to have a .500 record against them.

103 Games

57 Wins for UofM

40 Wins for OSU

6 Ties

Lloyd Carr has been named one of nine finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award. The annual award is presented to the nation’s top head coach by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)

Other finalists for the award are: Art Briles (Houston), Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), June Jones (Hawaii), Bronco Mendenhall (BYU), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Greg Schiano (Rutgers).
11/30/2006 11:29:37 AM EDT
[#26]

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Sweater vest and Smith will be gone to the NFL before you know it.

Keep dreaming. He is the highest paid coach in college football. He had interest from the Browns and he quickly put the kabash on those rumors.

Thad Matta and Jim Tressel are here to stay. Sucks to be the rest of the NCAA.
11/30/2006 11:32:08 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.


The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins and winning percentage.

The University of Michigan remains the only school in NCAA history to win at least one national championship in all four of these sports: baseball, basketball (men's), football, and ice hockey (men's).

Ohio State just needs to win the next 17 consecutive games against UofM to have a .500 record against them.

103 Games

57 Wins for UofM

40 Wins for OSU

6 Ties

Lloyd Carr has been named one of nine finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award. The annual award is presented to the nation’s top head coach by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)

Other finalists for the award are: Art Briles (Houston), Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), June Jones (Hawaii), Bronco Mendenhall (BYU), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Greg Schiano (Rutgers).



IBTOFGN

In Before the Osu Fans Get Nasty, they hate the truth
11/30/2006 11:38:40 AM EDT
[#28]
this little factoid is from the SEC Champ game press guide:



Arkansas will be the 10th bowl-eligible team Florida has faced in the 2006 season (Southern Miss.,
Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida State and Arkansas).
A look at some other notable teams follows:
Team _____________ Bowl-Eligible Teams Faced
Florida _______________________ 10
USC __________________________ 10
Notre Dame ____________________ 7
Michigan ______________________ 6
Ohio State _____________________ 5
11/30/2006 11:41:11 AM EDT
[#29]
I think you Buckeye fans and USC haters are counting your buckeyes a bit too early

Under Pete Carroll, The Men of Troy are 55-3 over the last 4 years.  The three losses have been by 8 points TOTAL in those four years.  Boyz...that ain't bad.



I predict Pete Carroll will be hoisting another crystal trophy this year.  

Also, I LOVE us being the underdog.  The bigger the spread, the more I like it.  I hope it gets up there...waaaaayyy up there.  

Finally, here's the real reason USC will win going away...

11/30/2006 11:43:12 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
this little factoid is from the SEC Champ game press guide:

Funny that SoS is covered in the computer fomulas for the BCS, yet Ohio State still is the first team to have a perfect BCS score.

Funny how that works.
11/30/2006 11:48:10 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
this little factoid is from the SEC Champ game press guide:

Funny that SoS is covered in the computer fomulas for the BCS, yet Ohio State still is the first team to have a perfect BCS score.

Funny how that works.



when you say "funny" you mean fucked up, right?

Seriously though...Oh St is undefeated....they clearly deserve to play for the championship.

the others...not so much. (USC is certainly more deserving than Meatchicken)

what pisses me off....the Oh St/Mich game...if that score had happened in the SEC (as it did frequently in the 90's) the Big 10 fans would say it was weak football.
11/30/2006 11:49:20 AM EDT
[#32]
I think UM is better than USC, but I tend to agree that Ohio shouldn't have to beat them twice for the national championship. They had their chance, they blew it. There shouldn't be a double jeopardy situation.

I tend to agree that USC doesn't deserve a shot either, but the problem with that is everyone else deserves a shot less.

Hell, just give the title to Ohio, and let UM and USC play for 2nd place.
11/30/2006 11:51:20 AM EDT
[#33]

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Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.


The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins and winning percentage.

The University of Michigan remains the only school in NCAA history to win at least one national championship in all four of these sports: baseball, basketball (men's), football, and ice hockey (men's).

Ohio State just needs to win the next 17 consecutive games against UofM to have a .500 record against them.

103 Games

57 Wins for UofM

40 Wins for OSU

6 Ties

Lloyd Carr has been named one of nine finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award. The annual award is presented to the nation’s top head coach by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)

Other finalists for the award are: Art Briles (Houston), Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), June Jones (Hawaii), Bronco Mendenhall (BYU), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Greg Schiano (Rutgers).


I never said I like OSU...
I just want to vomit when I hear about Michigan. Considering Gerald Ford went there, nothing "moron" needs to be said.
11/30/2006 11:53:19 AM EDT
[#34]

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I think UM is better than USC, but I tend to agree that Ohio shouldn't have to beat them twice for the national championship. They had their chance, they blew it. There shouldn't be a double jeopardy situation.

I tend to agree that USC doesn't deserve a shot either, but the problem with that is everyone else deserves a shot less.

Hell, just give the title to Ohio, and let UM and USC play for 2nd place.


That actually isn't that bad of an idea.
11/30/2006 11:53:55 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.


The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins and winning percentage.

The University of Michigan remains the only school in NCAA history to win at least one national championship in all four of these sports: baseball, basketball (men's), football, and ice hockey (men's).

Ohio State just needs to win the next 17 consecutive games against UofM to have a .500 record against them.

103 Games

57 Wins for UofM

40 Wins for OSU

6 Ties

Lloyd Carr has been named one of nine finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award. The annual award is presented to the nation’s top head coach by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)

Other finalists for the award are: Art Briles (Houston), Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), June Jones (Hawaii), Bronco Mendenhall (BYU), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Greg Schiano (Rutgers).



IBTOFGN

In Before the Osu Fans Get Nasty, they hate the truth


Yep.  He did it now.  The OSU fans will be along shortly to burn down the thread.
11/30/2006 11:54:19 AM EDT
[#36]
We could avoid all this fun if they would just HAVE A PLAYOFF!!!
I feel better now.
11/30/2006 11:56:55 AM EDT
[#37]
Wow, lots of buckeye lovers on this board.....

Look at it this way:
Michigan lost by 3 to #1 ranked team on the road.
USC lost by 2 to an UNranked team on the road.  (Still need to beat UCLA)
Florida lost by 10 to a #10 ranked team on the road.  (Still need to beat Ark)

I think Michigan should be the second ranked team in the country still, however I doubt they will be at the end of the year because the voters will not keep to teams from the same conference in the NC.... too bad, they deserve it.


GO BLUE!!!
11/30/2006 12:13:08 PM EDT
[#38]
GO UCLA

I wanna see Percy Harvin run all over Ohio State.

But I'm scared to death of Troy Smith.
11/30/2006 12:24:16 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Michigan sucks. Nothing else needs to be said.


The UM football program ranks first in NCAA history in both total wins and winning percentage.

The University of Michigan remains the only school in NCAA history to win at least one national championship in all four of these sports: baseball, basketball (men's), football, and ice hockey (men's).

Ohio State just needs to win the next 17 consecutive games against UofM to have a .500 record against them.

103 Games

57 Wins for UofM

40 Wins for OSU

6 Ties

Lloyd Carr has been named one of nine finalists for the Eddie Robinson Award. The annual award is presented to the nation’s top head coach by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA)

Other finalists for the award are: Art Briles (Houston), Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), June Jones (Hawaii), Bronco Mendenhall (BYU), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Greg Schiano (Rutgers).


I never said I like OSU...
I just want to vomit when I hear about Michigan. Considering Gerald Ford went there, nothing "moron" needs to be said.


So did Clarence L. Kelly Johnson; winner of two Collier trophies, the National Medal of Science, and the Medal of Freedom.

If one whacked out democrat makes you hate something, then I really can't understand your love for Southern California.

11/30/2006 12:36:10 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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this little factoid is from the SEC Champ game press guide:

Funny that SoS is covered in the computer fomulas for the BCS, yet Ohio State still is the first team to have a perfect BCS score.

Funny how that works.



when you say "funny" you mean fucked up, right?

Seriously though...Oh St is undefeated....they clearly deserve to play for the championship.

the others...not so much. (USC is certainly more deserving than Meatchicken)

what pisses me off....the Oh St/Mich game...if that score had happened in the SEC (as it did frequently in the 90's) the Big 10 fans would say it was weak football.


How is USC more deserving of a shot at the title?

They lost to an unranked team end of story.

Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country by three points. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the home team get three points by default, 42-39 take away OSU's 3 point home field advantage and that looks like an even game to me.

Oregon State was giving USC 3 points at home and won 33-31 that's a 5 point swing the other way.

I'm a Michigan fan but I don't think that there'll be a rematch even though It would still be the two best teams in the nation playing. The BCS wants an intersectional game and they'll probably get it.



 

11/30/2006 12:42:53 PM EDT
[#41]
I can't wait until Ohio loses the national championship.
11/30/2006 12:45:41 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
this little factoid is from the SEC Champ game press guide:

Funny that SoS is covered in the computer fomulas for the BCS, yet Ohio State still is the first team to have a perfect BCS score.

Funny how that works.



when you say "funny" you mean fucked up, right?

Seriously though...Oh St is undefeated....they clearly deserve to play for the championship.

the others...not so much. (USC is certainly more deserving than Meatchicken)

what pisses me off....the Oh St/Mich game...if that score had happened in the SEC (as it did frequently in the 90's) the Big 10 fans would say it was weak football.


How is USC more deserving of a shot at the title?

They lost to an unranked team end of story.

Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country by three points. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the home team get three points by default, 42-39 take away OSU's 3 point home field advantage and that looks like an even game to me.

Oregon State was giving USC 3 points at home and won 33-31 that's a 5 point swing the other way.

I'm a Michigan fan but I don't think that there'll be a rematch even though It would still be the two best teams in the nation playing. The BCS wants an intersectional game and they'll probably get it.




Yeah, you're right.

Florida played the toughest schedule in the country and emerged with one referee-influenced loss on the road in a difficult venue. We deserve to play OSU if we beat Arkansas, but we haven't won pretty.

I was just being nice because USC played a difficult schedule too.

Mich deserves to play the 2nd place team in another conference.
11/30/2006 2:45:48 PM EDT
[#43]

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Yes michigan lost to OSU but it was only by three and the ONLY game they lost.



But, did they win their conference???????????????     Seems like they've fell short of that goal, no? No conference championship, no national title. Seems pretty simple, cut & dried, IMO.
11/30/2006 2:53:07 PM EDT
[#44]

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Quoted:

Yes michigan lost to OSU but it was only by three and the ONLY game they lost.



But, did they win their conference???????????????     Seems like they've fell short of that goal, no? No conference championship, no national title. Seems pretty simple, cut & dried, IMO.



Yet USC lost to an unranked team, and the gators lost to a #10 team. Michigan should be the #2 team...
11/30/2006 3:41:20 PM EDT
[#45]

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I can guaran-frickin-tee you that it will be LSU vs Michigan in the Rose Bowl.  

Whiney bunch of pouters used to want to get to the Rose Bowl every year.  I can tell you this, Bo is happy.



The skunk bears are looking to be three-time losers.



11/30/2006 3:43:17 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
I think you Buckeye fans and USC haters are counting your buckeyes a bit too early

Under Pete Carroll, The Men of Troy are 55-3 over the last 4 years.  The three losses have been by 8 points TOTAL in those four years.  Boyz...that ain't bad.





Care to share how many ranked teams were on their schedule during that run???????    
11/30/2006 3:45:05 PM EDT
[#47]

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I tend to agree that USC doesn't deserve a shot either, but the problem with that is everyone else deserves a shot less.




USC is the defending champion, aren't they? They have only one loss, as does a host of other teams. They deserve to defend their title, IMO.
11/30/2006 3:48:37 PM EDT
[#48]

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Michigan lost by 3 to #1 ranked team on the road.


Yet they won't win their own conference, will they????


USC lost by 2 to an UNranked team on the road.  (Still need to beat UCLA)


And if they do, they WILL win their own conference championship.



Florida lost by 10 to a #10 ranked team on the road.  (Still need to beat Ark)


And if they do, they WILL win their own conference championship.

You can't win your own conference, you damn sure don't rate a shot at the #1 team in a bowl game....................    
11/30/2006 3:50:24 PM EDT
[#49]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the home team get three points by default,  




Really???? Every home team gets 3 points on the scoreboard before the start of a game?????    
11/30/2006 3:59:36 PM EDT
[#50]

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Yet USC lost to an unranked team, and the gators lost to a #10 team. Michigan should be the #2 team...




Did you need cheese with that whine?????????????    

UM played & LOST. This ain't baseball, this ain't 2 out of 3.............
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