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Site News Could You Have Stopped This? Vegas Shooting Analysis with Attorneys on Retainer
9/20/2006 5:19:04 PM EDT
At another Forum I belong to a guy claims the following.


I'd prefer the .17 HMR. I saw a buddy once shoot a rabbit at 1500 yards. The bullet is still travelling at about 4400 fps and has sufficient energy to take down any animal you should encounter.
9/20/2006 5:20:35 PM EDT
[#1]
No.
9/20/2006 5:21:21 PM EDT
[#2]


My screen turned brown and shit oozed out from the keyboard upon reading that.

And the collective I.Q. of the planet takes another nose-dive....
9/20/2006 5:22:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Yes,but only with armor piercing rounds
9/20/2006 5:22:19 PM EDT
[#4]
I thought the same also, just wanted to check before hand.
9/20/2006 5:23:01 PM EDT
[#5]
I took out an African bull elephant from 2600 yards with a .17HMR.

One shot.

At night.

Open sights.

In the rain.

With a Mini-14 specially-built by Bill Ruger just for me.
There's possible, then there's possible.
9/20/2006 5:23:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Sure, just not the rabbit he was aiming at.

"Still 4400"? I think the muzzle velocity is 2550 fps or so, and after 150 or 200 yards, the drop gets pretty bad.

No doubt he'll tell you they were "wildcat handloads", so you should ask him what kind of primers and powder his friend was using
9/20/2006 5:24:02 PM EDT
[#7]
maybe with a .17 bullet in a 20MM vulcan case
9/20/2006 5:24:09 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought Gunkid had passed away
9/20/2006 5:25:00 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/airwolf144/smiley_abzh.gif

My screen turned brown and shit oozed out from the keyboard upon reading that.

And the collective I.Q. of the planet takes another nose-dive....
That about sums it up.
9/20/2006 5:25:11 PM EDT
[#10]
maybe in outerspace.
9/20/2006 5:26:08 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
At another Forum I belong to a guy claims the following.


I'd prefer the .17 HMR. I saw a buddy once shoot a rabbit at 1500 yards. The bullet is still travelling at about 4400 fps and has sufficient energy to take down any animal you should encounter.



ah.. ah... what about elephants.. at 1500 yards.. you take down an elephant at 1500 yards with a .17hmr i wanna be there....

you did say 'ANY ANIMAL YOU SHOULD ENCOUNTER'.. what about whales.. sheese what about tyranosaurs?
9/20/2006 5:26:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Has the idiot that posted what was quoted EVEN HELD A .17HMR ROUND IN HIS HAND?

Yeah, that will go 1,500 yards and still be traveling 4,400FPS with enough energy to take down "any animal".




Some people just need to be
9/20/2006 5:26:23 PM EDT
[#13]
heh

sounds like a converstion i had with a guy at work today concerning the 17 HMR
but his shot was only 550yds on a coyote
9/20/2006 5:26:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Bullberry

Maybe he ment 150 yards? However, the muzzle velocity is only about 2500 fps...
9/20/2006 5:28:25 PM EDT
[#15]
9/20/2006 5:28:36 PM EDT
[#16]
With magical pixie dust us gunsmiths sell out of the back room! that shot is a total no brainer with that!
9/20/2006 5:28:55 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
maybe with a .17 bullet in a 20MM vulcan case


i cracked up just picturing that in my head

but seriously, is this kid on drugs?
9/20/2006 5:29:21 PM EDT
[#18]
no brainer  


he heard it on the internet right?  
9/20/2006 5:32:28 PM EDT
[#19]
Was it the "Trojan Rabbit" from Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
9/20/2006 5:40:01 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
maybe with a .17 bullet in a 20MM vulcan case


i cracked up just picturing that in my head

but seriously, is this kid on drugs?




Yeah, it looks really wicked, until it vaporizes about 0.001 seconds after you pull the trigger.  
9/20/2006 5:44:02 PM EDT
[#21]
Ask him if he is still duct-taping armor plates to his back, or if he picked up a plate carrier yet...
9/20/2006 5:44:25 PM EDT
[#22]

  I brought down a moose one time with a BB gun.
     He was leaning over to get himself a drink from the lake and I shot him dead square in the balls!  He went down like a sack o potatoes and drowned in the lake. I got pics of it here somewhere ..........
9/20/2006 5:49:21 PM EDT
[#23]
I don't think a .17hmr is going 4400 fps when it leaves the barrel, much less 1500yds. down range.
9/20/2006 5:52:07 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Sure, just not the rabbit he was aiming at.

"Still 4400"? I think the muzzle velocity is 2550 fps or so, and after 150 or 200 yards, the drop gets pretty bad.

No doubt he'll tell you they were "wildcat handloads", so you should ask him what kind of primers and powder his friend was using


I think you hit it right on the head. It was probably the .17-110 Sharps load (.17 cal. bullet seated atop a 110 gr. charge of of ffffg black powder). MV = 8763 fps. That round could do the job.
9/20/2006 5:54:18 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I thought Gunkid had passed away

last I heard he got teh arrested.
9/20/2006 6:01:13 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Sure, just not the rabbit he was aiming at.

"Still 4400"? I think the muzzle velocity is 2550 fps or so, and after 150 or 200 yards, the drop gets pretty bad.

No doubt he'll tell you they were "wildcat handloads", so you should ask him what kind of primers and powder his friend was using


I think you hit it right on the head. It was probably the .17-110 Sharps load (.17 cal. bullet seated atop a 110 gr. charge of of ffffg black powder). MV = 8763 fps. That round could do the job.


your kidding right?

how long of a barrel would you need for black powder to push the bullet that fast?  seems possible but the barrel would have to be something like 70 inches and the bullet would probably disintegrate in flight at that speed anyway.
9/20/2006 6:03:58 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
maybe with a .17 bullet in a 20MM vulcan case

With a 1in 5 twist and if the jacket didn't turn into powder and fly out the muzzle...
Kinda like the monkeys out his butt
9/20/2006 6:07:17 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Sure, just not the rabbit he was aiming at.

"Still 4400"? I think the muzzle velocity is 2550 fps or so, and after 150 or 200 yards, the drop gets pretty bad.

No doubt he'll tell you they were "wildcat handloads", so you should ask him what kind of primers and powder his friend was using


I think you hit it right on the head. It was probably the .17-110 Sharps load (.17 cal. bullet seated atop a 110 gr. charge of of ffffg black powder). MV = 8763 fps. That round could do the job.


your kidding right?

how long of a barrel would you need for black powder to push the bullet that fast?  seems possible but the barrel would have to be something like 70 inches and the bullet would probably disintegrate in flight at that speed anyway.




yes he is kidding  expanding gas itself is not tjhat fast
9/20/2006 6:16:36 PM EDT
[#29]
You should ask him if he can do it backwards.
9/20/2006 6:22:51 PM EDT
[#30]
When trading hunting stories, always convert what you hear from yards to feet, its a wee bit closer to the truth
9/20/2006 6:25:10 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Sure, just not the rabbit he was aiming at.

"Still 4400"? I think the muzzle velocity is 2550 fps or so, and after 150 or 200 yards, the drop gets pretty bad.

No doubt he'll tell you they were "wildcat handloads", so you should ask him what kind of primers and powder his friend was using


I think you hit it right on the head. It was probably the .17-110 Sharps load (.17 cal. bullet seated atop a 110 gr. charge of of ffffg black powder). MV = 8763 fps. That round could do the job.


your kidding right?

how long of a barrel would you need for black powder to push the bullet that fast?  seems possible but the barrel would have to be something like 70 inches and the bullet would probably disintegrate in flight at that speed anyway.



Pffffffft! Todd Bailey makes a .17-110 Sharps with a 91" bbl as a factory option. That rifle will milk the round for all it's worth. You can get it built on a semiauto MP5 platform for an extra $300. Money well spent, if you ask me. Rabbits travel in packs. Like wolves.

ETA: The bullets are Rhodium-cored sintered bronze. Hand cast and then Dremeled to fit the rifle from which they are to be fired.
9/20/2006 7:14:55 PM EDT
[#32]
It wasn't the .17HMR, it was the .17RPG
9/20/2006 7:16:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Loser.......
9/20/2006 7:16:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Well, you have to get the application of Teflon just right.......
9/20/2006 7:18:20 PM EDT
[#35]
NO. Sounds like a dumb FUDD
9/20/2006 7:44:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Shoot, that's nothin'.

Tonight I shot 98 out 100 clay targets on a Sporting Clays range with a .17 HMR.  The closest target was a 300 yard hard crosser, shot with the gun upside down, using a dental mirror to aim through the 24X BSA target scope while one of the gals on the squad distracted us with funny stories and neck rubs.

I almost forgot, I was riding a mean horse, never broke to gunfire before tonight.  The dogs did a pretty good job keeping him in line until the wimminz started taking their clothes off - scared 'em off or something.
9/20/2006 8:03:33 PM EDT
[#37]
I had a great reply but........... Blackeye you win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
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