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7/28/2006 7:03:47 PM EDT
We are in the process of getting some property in the country. We have found several tracts we like. They meet all my criteria, except one. No high speed internet available, except satellite. We had direcway about 5 yrs ago, before we built our current home. It sucked ass. My question is, does it still suck ass?
7/28/2006 7:14:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm using it right now. for my needs it works great most of the time. heavy rain and snow knocks it out. lag time is so bad don't even try playing on line games, nor can you use VOIP. it is better then the two tin cans and a piece of string they call dial up out here. mmk
7/28/2006 7:19:11 PM EDT
[#2]
good for surfing the web and email, thats it
7/28/2006 7:29:09 PM EDT
[#3]
I occasionally play Xbox 360 online, so that'd be out. The wife does mortgages from home and needs to send and receive pretty good sized files, so that would suck. It seems to still suck ass. I will just have to keep looking till I find a property that meets all my criteria.
7/28/2006 7:36:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Direcway is better now but still blows compared to DSL or CAble. You probably had the older system that needed a phone line.

Still better than dial up though.
7/28/2006 7:43:46 PM EDT
[#5]
No matter what they do to the technology, the signal has a 44,600 mile trip from you to anywhere of significance.  And then the response has another 44,600 miles to go to get back to you.  Latency will NEVER be overcome.  E-mail, surfing, and downloads, you'd be okay, but online interactive gaming?  Not gonna happen.  VOIP will have noticable delays.

Woody


7/28/2006 7:56:14 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
No matter what they do to the technology, the signal has a 44,600 mile trip from you to anywhere of significance.  And then the response has another 44,600 miles to go to get back to you.  Latency will NEVER be overcome.  E-mail, surfing, and downloads, you'd be okay, but online interactive gaming?  Not gonna happen.  VOIP will have noticable delays.

Woody




If they perfect subspace communnication technology 45,000 miles won't matter
7/28/2006 7:59:21 PM EDT
[#7]
search for a cable/dsl thread where I posted, there is a good company that offeres vpn level service if you are willing to $$$$
7/28/2006 8:16:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Seems to be working fine.

Our system is on the crappy side and we've had guys run Everquest on our netwrok without problems. Friend of mine is running VOIP over his, the delay is very minimal.
7/28/2006 8:17:37 PM EDT
[#9]
IT SUCKS ASS!!!!


get netzero highspeed dial up...its faster
7/28/2006 8:19:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Give these guys a call
I have no affilation with them but they make sense

hispeedanywhere.com/hsa/index.html
7/28/2006 8:19:38 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
IT SUCKS ASS!!!!


get netzero highspeed dial up...its faster


Not out in the sticks.  My sister lives way out in the boonies, like the best dial up is 26K because the lines suck ass.  They have sat int. and it's not bad at all.  I notice the lag, but d/l speeds are darn good, not quite as good as Comcast, but its a huge step up from dial up bunk.  
7/28/2006 8:41:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Sat Internet will simply never be as good as a wired or WiMax high-speed connection.  Latency will always be an issue, and so will bandwidth usage.  All sat providers limit your total bandwidth usage, and will throttle your connection if you regularly exceed your limits.

Having said that, it's still a lot better than dialup for most uses.

I work for DirecTV, but I would not recommend DirecWay/HughesNet; go with WildBlue! instead.  It's newer technology with higher max performance, less expensive equipment, and less expensive monthly fees.

As long as your expectations are reasonable, you'll be fine.  Living rural has it's trade-offs...

-Troy
7/28/2006 8:47:36 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Sat Internet will simply never be as good as a wired or WiMax high-speed connection.  Latency will always be an issue, and so will bandwidth usage.  All sat providers limit your total bandwidth usage, and will throttle your connection if you regularly exceed your limits.

Having said that, it's still a lot better than dialup for most uses.

I work for DirecTV, but I would not recommend DirecWay/HughesNet; go with WildBlue! instead.  It's newer technology with higher max performance, less expensive equipment, and less expensive monthly fees.

As long as your expectations are reasonable, you'll be fine.  Living rural has it's trade-offs...

-Troy



Troy, who are these guys do they have their own network ?


hispeedanywhere.com/hsa/index.html


7/28/2006 9:24:40 PM EDT
[#14]
At Oshkosh fly-in now, using Directway [now Hughes] here all week.

Nice thing is that I will use it all the way home, every time we camp i.e. I will "recommission" the system at different geographial locations. Thousands or RV'ers do it all the time, there are quite a few here.

Wild Blue is fine if you never want to move the system yourself after you install it.

And DW is fine too, have used it for years w/ minimal problems, and my requirements are tough in that I move often when we travel.

If TSHTF, one strategy is to have the Dway system available to take on the ATV trailer with other gear. Might even preposition the largest part, a dish and feed assemblyin the wilderness.

This is something for others that want hi-speed internet to think about.

DW will never be as good as cable but is way better than dial-up.

I ran the speed test at Testmy.net just now [it's late and not heavy traffic on the satellite] and downloaded at 1006 Kbps or 1.01 Mbps (123 kB/s) and this is typical most of this week, day and night. Best alternative for my needs.

Unfortunately you have to make compromises. Those that are flatly negative about DW really don't understand what they're talking about or do not understand the technical issues to make an informed judgement or expect performance the system isn't designed for.

7/28/2006 9:33:37 PM EDT
[#15]
Any good forums discussing Sat Int usage? Any of you guys use this Wildblue?

The direcway system we had was the original one-way system. I could give up the online gaming, but I rely on the web for news, sports and most everything. Sounds like it is substantially better than dial up for surfing. But then you have the whole weather problem. I dont know.
7/28/2006 9:51:58 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Any good forums discussing Sat Int usage? Any of you guys use this Wildblue?

The direcway system we had was the original one-way system. I could give up the online gaming, but I rely on the web for news, sports and most everything. Sounds like it is substantially better than dial up for surfing. But then you have the whole weather problem. I dont know.

Far better than dial up, I don't waste my time w/ games, etc, so no experience it that dept.

See my post above and this comment is related to the DW one-way system.

I have the one-way system also and use it when I have a phone line available.

DW doesn't push the one-way system anymore, if you call they may not know what your talking about, but I commissioned one about a year ago for a buddy. It's all automated.

I actually prefer the one-way over the 2 way because a phone line is used "out going" from your location and is faster than the latency of up down and up down again for one complete msg "loop".

I typically see 1500 kbps down with the one-way vs about 1000 kbps down as posted above for the 2-way. That's why I like the one-way better when I have a phone line.

I've actually set it up in hotel rooms w/ the dish on the balcony or pointed out a window before hotels started getting fast internet service.

When traveling I obviously don't have a phone line so I use the 2-way system.

One way systems can be picked up cheap on eBay and monthly service is $39 vs 2-way at $59.

The one way antenna can be smaller, in fact I have used a DirectTV dish in the stronger signal areas of the country [with the linear polarized LNB that is necessary for internet service].

Few people know this but you can use a cell phone as the one-way return line modem [I've used Verizon] with the one way system for an impressively fast, compact and portable internet connection.
7/29/2006 5:42:01 AM EDT
[#17]
How does that compare to the VZ type of high speed wireless internet (assuming you have a good cell signal of course)? I live up in the mountains and am looking for something other than a 56k modem that connects at 26k and starts downloading at 1k and drops to .0001k within 2 minutes.......
7/29/2006 6:30:51 AM EDT
[#18]
So I figured I'd look at Wildblue again because it's the best deal out there, enter my zipcode to see if there are any deals and who the installer would be.

We are sorry but you happen to be in one of the very few zip codes where we are not able to offer service due to the reach of our satellite.

Please add your name to our registration form and we'll notify you when WildBlue service is available in your area.





Damn, people used to joke about having sunshine piped in, so far out satellite can't reach?
Guess I'll have to stick with the public library for high speed, that's how I have to get my software updates. No videos for me.
7/29/2006 6:31:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Are you at the very southern tip of FL?

7/29/2006 6:37:07 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Are you at the very southern tip of FL?



Nope, 20 miles from Gainesville actually.
7/29/2006 6:40:15 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Are you at the very southern tip of FL?



Nope, 20 miles from Gainesville actually.



The link i posted above may help here is the coverage map


hispeedanywhere.com/hsa/ia_8.pdf


Pricing:

http://hispeedanywhere.com/hsa/bandwidth.html

7/29/2006 7:04:18 AM EDT
[#22]
Direcway works

But its pricey $102.99 for the first 15 months. then 59.99

No online gaming, too big of a lag. ping times avge 7-800

139MB in 2 hour download limit then speeds are cut to super slow. But this resets slowly if you get back off line for a while.



Uploads like pictures take a while and are slow as a fast dial up connection.

All that aside, it is my only alternative to dialup. And I am happy with it compared to the alternative.

Wildblue is the newest satellite internet available, its $59. a month from the start.

If wireless isnt an option and cable or dsl is no where near. you might as well get it.
7/29/2006 7:05:02 AM EDT
[#23]
I have had hughes net(Directway) for five years and it is a piece of shit.

Verizon Wireless is up dating all their towers to send broadband internet. call verizon and see if the towers in your area has been updated. A friend of mine says it is fast.
7/29/2006 7:12:43 AM EDT
[#24]
I heard DishNetwork is buying out WildBlue and by this fall there will be Dish Interent available to all Dish customers. This was from a local Dish Place.
7/29/2006 7:51:43 AM EDT
[#25]
Good info here.

I'm in the same boat and researching this also

GM
7/29/2006 8:09:27 AM EDT
[#26]
does anyone know of an easy way to check the verizon option? I would rather choke to death on Hillarys clitoris than call Verizon customer service.
7/29/2006 8:15:16 AM EDT
[#27]
According to their site, Verizon internet service isnt available at the address I put in, which is in the area where we will be moving. Anyone know the time frame at which they are upgrading? The verizon cell service is excellent in the same area.