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6/27/2006 10:27:53 AM EDT
I think they'll go get him out.  Hamas/Fatah won't give in, and neither will Olmert.  At least Egypt got smart and will block any efforts to go there in retreat.

HH
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US urges calm over Israeli gunner  

The Israeli army is on standby for an "extensive" operation
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has urged Israel to "give diplomacy a chance" in the standoff over an Israeli soldier held by Palestinian militants.
Israeli tanks and troops are massing on the border of Gaza, where it is thought the soldier is being held.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has warned a large scale military operation is rapidly approaching.

"There really needs to be an effort now to try and calm the situation," Ms Rice told reporters en route to Pakistan.

Stark choices

Mr Olmert has refused to release any Palestinian prisoners in exchange for information about tank gunner Gilad Shalit.

 The question of freeing [Palestinian] prisoners is in no way on the Israeli government agenda

He was responding to a demand by three militant groups that women and youths should be freed from Israeli jails.

Intense diplomatic efforts have been under way since the soldier's disappearance, including mediation by an Egyptian delegation in the Gaza Strip.

The BBC's Jon Leyne, in Jerusalem, says that if mediation efforts fail both Israel and the Palestinians face huge tests.


The 19-year-old soldier was seized by militants on Sunday

The Israeli leader must choose between going ahead with military action that would endanger the life of the captured soldier or risk being seen as weak, our correspondent says.

And the Hamas-led Palestinian government must decide whether they are really willing to risk a full-scale attack from the Israelis which could have disastrous consequences.

There are also fears a severe humanitarian crisis and a large numbers of casualties should Israel invades Gaza.

In other developments:


The Israeli military says it has arrested 43 suspected Palestinian militants in overnight raids across the West Bank

Egypt has deployed hundreds of riot police along its border with the Gaza Strip to stop any Palestinian attempts to cross illegally in the event of Israeli raids, Reuters news agency reports

Israeli police says it is taking reports of the kidnapping of a West Bank settler "very seriously" - one of the groups said to be involved in the capture of Gila Shalit has said it abducted the settler


'Time running out'

Mr Olmert has put the army on standby for an extensive military operation against Palestinian militants to free Cpl Shalit and Israeli tanks and armoured vehicles have been assembling on the Gaza border.

"The question of freeing [Palestinian] prisoners is in no way on the Israeli government agenda," Mr Olmert said during a speech in Jerusalem.

"There will be no negotiations, no bargaining, no agreements."

Mr Olmert said that Israel would not allow itself to become the victim of "Hamas-terrorist blackmail", warning that "a large-scale military operation is approaching".

Cpl Shalit is believed to have been seized by militants who tunnelled out of Gaza to attack the army post at Kerem Shalom.

Two Israeli troops and two militants were killed during the raid.

Diplomatic efforts

Hamas political leaders have denied any knowledge of the tank gunner's whereabouts - but they have called for him to be well treated.

The faxed statement calling for the prisoners' release was signed by the Popular Resistance Committees umbrella group, Hamas's Izzedine al-Qassam Brigades, and the previously unknown Army of Islam.

It said: "The Occupation [Israel] will not get any information about its missing soldier until it commits to the following:

"First, the immediate release of all women in prison. Second, the immediate release of all children in prison younger than 18."

Israel is believed to have incarcerated about 100 women and 300 under-18s among the 9,000 Palestinian prisoners it is holding in its jails.

Israeli officials say they hold Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Ismail Haniya, of Hamas, responsible for the 19-year-old Israeli's safety.

Correspondents say the crisis could spoil efforts to bind Hamas into a plan implicitly recognising Israel, and may expose divisions between hardline and more pragmatic Hamas elements.

6/27/2006 10:31:06 AM EDT
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Don't stop till you see egyptians

edit: forgot which side gaza was on
6/27/2006 10:31:53 AM EDT
[#2]
I'm watching this with interest. The Israelis will not stand for any shenanigans.
6/27/2006 10:35:36 AM EDT
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I'm watching this with interest. The Israelis will not stand for any shenanigans.



Pretty simple from Israel's point of view:

Give us our soldier back in one piece and this is not negotiable.  It all depends on how many people Hamas/Fatah is willing to lose over this soldier.

...and their threat to use WMD's against any attack would stretch their stupidity to levels unseen before.

HH

6/27/2006 10:37:26 AM EDT
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...and their threat to use WMD's against any attack would stretch their stupidity to levels unseen before.




the Palis claim they have WMDs?
6/27/2006 10:40:26 AM EDT
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...and their threat to use WMD's against any attack would stretch their stupidity to levels unseen before.




the Palis claim they have WMDs?



Yes.  Yesterday, they announced that they have 30 or so WMD's of chemical and biological types.  They're theatening to use them as soon as the IDF crosses the line and comes in.  That'd be the last stupidest thing they'd ever do.

HH
6/27/2006 10:49:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Going to watch this one closely.............
6/27/2006 11:25:12 AM EDT
[#7]
This will be a historic event.  It will rank behind the major Arab-Israeli wars and ahead of the invasion of Lebanon.  The Israelis have studied Fallujah and look to repeat it.  The Palestinians can be expected to put up a serious fight (well as serious this bunch of ass clowns can get).  If the Israelis have to spend a lot of time searching for this guy it is going to be bloody.  They aren't waiting on diplomacy.  They are waiting for intelligence reports and moving ammo to the boarder.  This will end the two sided peace negotionations.  Israel will dictate terms and the Palestinians will have to live with them.
6/27/2006 11:29:33 AM EDT
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I bet the Palis wont be rioting in the streets shooting their guns in the air when the Israelis roll in. They will all scatter and hide like a bunch of rats.
6/27/2006 11:35:19 AM EDT
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I bet the Palis wont be rioting in the streets shooting their guns in the air when the Israelis roll in. They will all scatter and hide like a bunch of rats.



Hide among the kids I guess.


6/27/2006 11:41:21 AM EDT
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This will be a historic event.  It will rank behind the major Arab-Israeli wars and ahead of the invasion of Lebanon.  The Israelis have studied Fallujah and look to repeat it.  The Palestinians can be expected to put up a serious fight (well as serious this bunch of ass clowns can get).  If the Israelis have to spend a lot of time searching for this guy it is going to be bloody.  They aren't waiting on diplomacy.  They are waiting for intelligence reports and moving ammo to the boarder.  This will end the two sided peace negotionations.  Israel will dictate terms and the Palestinians will have to live with them.



I fail to see any problems with that.