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6/10/2006 5:27:24 AM EDT
Anyone interested? Does anyone really care (outside of the billions of people outside the borders of the USA?)?  What am I missing.....

6/10/2006 5:37:12 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Anyone interested? Does anyone really care (outside of the billions of people outside the borders of the USA?)?  What am I missing.....




Yeah, I watched 2 games yesterday. The US plays thier first match Monday, the 12th.
11:55 AM ESPN2 1st Round Game Czech Republic United States Gelsenkirchen

The Czechs have a pretty good record over the last few Cups, and are the strongest side in the Group the US team is in. A good showing against CZ will be a definite confidence booster for Arena's men.
There are some good matches today as well.

DaddyDett

6/10/2006 5:56:26 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Anyone interested? Does anyone really care (outside of the billions of people outside the borders of the USA?)?  What am I missing.....




You're missing one of the greatest games played in the world.

I am looking forward to seeing Germany stomp the Brits. I am also looking forward to all the USA matches.

I enjoy all matches, especially when Italy, France, Brazil and England lose.
6/10/2006 7:44:27 AM EDT
[#3]
I watched the Germany-Costa Rica game, and the last 30 minutes of England-Paraguay.  The latter game was pretty lackluster, at least the part I watched.
6/10/2006 7:46:33 AM EDT
[#4]
I dont think most Americans give two shits.  We have a mediocre team. Odds of winning are 75-1.  When soccer becomes or if it becomes a big money sport in the US, we will dominate.

But as of now, wooses that cant play football, hockey or basketball end up on the soccer teams.
6/10/2006 7:49:33 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

We have a mediocre team.





We have the 5th ranked team in the world....

6/10/2006 7:51:05 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

We have a mediocre team.



have



Our odds of winning is not of a 5th rank team.

Our odds pf winning the world cup have been listed at 75-1.  Thats a mediocre team.  When you get into single digits then you are talking world class.
6/10/2006 7:51:26 AM EDT
[#7]
I remember back when I was in high school and people were getting excited about soccer.  There has been an enormous push to develop soccer in this country over the last 20 years.  My next door neighbor has a son who had to travel every weekend last summer for soccer.  The kid was in jr high.  Stupid.

Soccer is being pushed so that the US can compete with sh!t-hole 3rd world countries.  Wow.  Call me unimpressed.

Edit:  Soccer is so popular around the world because anyone with a dead bloated goat can get a game together.  Just kick that sum-bitch around.
6/10/2006 7:56:15 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I remember back when I was in high school and people were getting excited about soccer.  There has been an enormous push to develop soccer in this country over the last 20 years.  My next door neighbor has a son who had to travel every weekend last summer for soccer.  The kid was in jr high.  Stupid.

Soccer is being pushed so that the US can compete with sh!t-hole 3rd world countries.  Wow.  Call me unimpressed.



And that is the heart of the situation.

Most Americans dont care of about some sport that is not as popular in the US as Football or Baseball.

I think most Americans think that not being able to us your arms is stupid.  God gave you arms so you should be able to use them.   Artificial limits to what a person can do and use is totally unAmerican.
6/10/2006 8:05:12 AM EDT
[#9]
World Cup...what's that?

Superbowl...?  Yea...

World Series...?  Ok

But "World Cup"?  Sorry...can't get too excited over soccer.
6/10/2006 8:43:51 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Soccer is being pushed so that the US can compete with sh!t-hole 3rd world countries.  Wow.  Call me unimpressed.





Yeah, like England, Germany, Australia, Sweden, Canada, Japan, China, France, Italy, South Africa, Brazil, Korea.......................
6/10/2006 8:46:44 AM EDT
[#11]
I dont care
6/10/2006 8:58:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

You're missing one of the greatest games played in the world.

yeah right!

6/10/2006 9:07:05 AM EDT
[#13]
Ya I care a bit.

Alot of my friends are into soccer so we've been watching them.

Soccer is cool but other then always just being their to play since its adoption I don't see how the world is so stuck on soccer.

They're worse actors then basketball players.

6/10/2006 9:08:24 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm not really into soccer but I would like to see the US do well.  

Pride baby!

ETA:  Good comments

I'm now wondering if a country embracing soccer isn't a mandatory requirement on the road to socialization.

There certainly has been a big push since the early 70's for soccer in this country.  Maybe playing/watching soccer re-aligns the cells in your brain to accept socialism the same way watching NASCAR realigns them to accept redneckism.



6/10/2006 9:10:19 AM EDT
[#15]
Does this come on ESPN, I think people at work think its the only channel ahd will have it on it, if its football, basketball or even the spelling bee
6/10/2006 9:10:20 AM EDT
[#16]
USA!
6/10/2006 9:10:46 AM EDT
[#17]
6/10/2006 9:11:23 AM EDT
[#18]
Argentina-Ivory coast tonight will be my 5th matches watched in 2 days

Germany was rather good, England and sweden a little desapointing and i'm now waiting for France, Brazil and czech republic.


6/10/2006 9:13:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Soccer is going to be the Next Big Thing(TM)

(originally said sometime around 1980 or so).
6/10/2006 9:48:00 AM EDT
[#20]
I'm a naturalized German citizen. It's what I grew up with. Watching Sweden - TnT right now, but it's pretty boring. Argentina - Ivory Coast ought to be good.

ALL IN HD ON MY 50" PLASMA! w00t!
6/10/2006 9:54:11 AM EDT
[#21]
The New York Cosmos playing at Downing Stadium bored me silly
6/10/2006 10:32:33 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
The New York Cosmos playing at Downing Stadium bored me silly




Watch a Mets game........................same effect.
6/10/2006 10:32:36 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Anyone interested? Does anyone really care (outside of the billions of people outside the borders of the USA?)?  What am I missing.....




Crap, is the world cup going on? well, at least I know why none of the business orders to Germany have gone through.
6/10/2006 11:02:26 AM EDT
[#24]
Yep, I watch it.  I like soccer and hockey.  Football and baseball suck ass and are slow stop and go games for lazy people that aren't truly very athletic.  Being big doesn't mean athletic.  Hockey and soccer take a lot of stamina and actually being athletic.  I'd like to see a football or baseball player play a game of soccer and see how long they last.  They would probaly be hunched over breathing heavily like a wuss within five minutes.  
6/10/2006 11:04:25 AM EDT
[#25]
God I love the arrogance of Americans.   Soccer, while not usually high scoring is a game of strategy and defense.  One poster said only pussies go into soccer because they can't cut it in Football or Basket Ball........................I'd like to see them go three periods with these guys and see how they do!......put there money where their mouths are.  And are American sports that much better?

Football= a bunch of overpaid spoiled asshats trying to kill each other!  Drugs, rapings and attitudes!  No thank you!
Basketball= a bunch of overpaid spoiled black asshats trying to see who can rape the most white women.
Baseball= a bunch of overpaid,whiney bitches hitting a little white ball

Not to mention the steroids, alcohol abuse, violence and commercialization of all the sports!

Before you turn your nose up at soccer, you might learn a little about it and watch it from time to time.  The ENTIRE rest of the world may have something there!  [rant off]

6/10/2006 11:06:41 AM EDT
[#26]
I'm a fan of competiton and rivalry.

That's why college football is better than the NFL and why the World Cup is the premier sporting event in the world.  It just doesn't get any bigger than the WC, and the level of passion/excitement can't be matched....except for any SEC football game
6/10/2006 11:06:50 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The New York Cosmos playing at Downing Stadium bored me silly




Watch a Mets game........................same effect.


your right.
Yankees games are good but Mets games always seemed boring. Even in 1986
6/10/2006 11:08:16 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
World Cup...what's that?

Superbowl...?  Yea...

World Series...?  Ok

But "World Cup"?  Sorry...can't get too excited over soccer.



DAYTONA!
6/10/2006 11:09:02 AM EDT
[#29]
Soccer fans are also a bunch of fucking hoodlums.
The refs getting attacked happens way the fuck more than any american sport and don't give me the passion for the game bullshit.
6/10/2006 11:13:20 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I'm a fan of competiton and rivalry.

That's why college football is better than the NFL and why the World Cup is the premier sporting event in the world.  It just doesn't get any bigger than the WC, and the level of passion/excitement can't be matched....except for any SEC football game



You may have a point - although for the wrong team.
6/10/2006 11:15:07 AM EDT
[#31]
I don't get the whole "soccer is a low scoring game." What about baseball? What about ice hockey? Those don't always have huge scores, do they? Then take football - if we took soccer and gave SEVEN points for every goal, yesterday's first game would have been 28-14.
6/10/2006 11:58:14 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Soccer is going to be the Next Big Thing(TM)

(originally said sometime around 1980 or so).



Soccer is the most wide spread popular game in the entire world. It is the Big Thing, and has been for a long time (even before 1980).

6/10/2006 12:00:47 PM EDT
[#33]


Quoted:

We have a mediocre team.






America is in the World Cup. That says something. Just because we don't have a monopoly on good players doesn't mean we have a "mediocre" team.
6/10/2006 12:02:21 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Soccer is being pushed so that the US can compete with sh!t-hole 3rd world countries.



Yep.  Soccer is the United Nations of sports.

ETA: My friend's 6-year-old son plays soccer.  They never keep score and every kid gets a trophy at the end of the season.  That's all I need to know.

ETA Again:  Has anybody noticed that when two players brush against each other on the field they both grimace, cry out, and fall down, holding a leg?  
6/10/2006 12:42:00 PM EDT
[#35]

This IS the TRUE World Championship, in the most played/viewed game in the world.

The US is rated #5, and actually has a chance to advance, once they get past the Czechs.

To anyone who thinks fotbol/soccer/football/footy is for wusses, come to a DC United match at RFK in late July or August.  (90 minutes of burst running/jogging in 100+ deg. heat, yeah, that's for wusses.

Ivory Coast just pulled off an incredibly athletic goal in the run of play.


DaddyDett

GO USA!!
Vamos United!

La Barra Brava  Meurte o Gloria

6/10/2006 12:45:21 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
This IS the TRUE World Championship, in the most played/viewed game in the world.

The US is rated #5, and actually has a chance to advance, once they get past the Czechs.

To anyone who thinks fotbol/soccer/football/footy is for wusses, come to a DC United match at RFK in late July or August.  (90 minutes of burst running/jogging in 100+ deg. heat, yeah, that's for wusses.

Ivory Coast just pulled off an incredibly athletic goal in the run of play.


DaddyDett

GO USA!!
Vamos United!

La Barra Brava  Meurte o Gloria




One of my buddies is a big DC United/Barra Brava guy....you probably know him.
6/10/2006 12:59:55 PM EDT
[#37]
Soccer players are better athletes.   They have to be.

That said, professional soccer is never going to take off financially, at least to the level of professional football and baseball, until you make that team >75% black.

I don't know, and don't want to get into, all the socio-economic bullshit behind what I'm about to say, but here goes:

Modern American audiences instinctively know that a serioius competitive team in a serious competitive sport has more than 3 out of 11 black players.  The average American sports fan is not going to watch a bunch of skinny white boys run around kicking a ball.  However, you put 8 black guys out there, with a mexican, an asian, and a token white guy for goalie, and folks will know you came to play and win.  

Pot-bellied Uncle Cleatus may be a racist old bastard, but he has come to know that when he turns on the TV and sees a bunch of mostly black guys playing football, baseball, or basketball, he is going to see the best competition, and the most exciting gameplay, by guys who want to win, and that's the gist of why you follow sports anyway.

I got no explanation for NASCAR.  Hockey is just boxing whith skates and sticks.

Until soccer in the US gets the brothers interested in a big way, it will never rise to the level of the big three sports.  When they DO get interested, look for the US to dominate soccer worldwide.


EDIT for spelling, and not well
6/10/2006 1:07:36 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I dont think most Americans give two shits.  We have a mediocre team. Odds of winning are 75-1.  When soccer becomes or if it becomes a big money sport in the US, we will dominate.




No
You
Won't
6/10/2006 1:13:06 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Soccer players are better athletes.   They have to be.

That said, professional soccer is never going to take off financially, at least to the level of professional football and baseball, until you make that team >75% black.

I don't know, and don't want to get into, all the socio-economic bullshit behind what I'm about to say, but here goes:

Modern American audiences instinctively know that a serioius competitive team in a serious competitive sport has more than 3 out of 11 black players.  The average American sports fan is not going to watch a bunch of skinny white boys run around kicking a ball.  However, you put 8 black guys out there, with a mexican, an asian, and a token white guy for goalie, and folks will know you came to play and win.  

Pot-bellied Uncle Cleatus may be a racist old bastard, but he has come to know that when he turns on the TV and sees a bunch of mostly black guys playing football, baseball, or basketball, he is going to see the best competition, and the most exciting gameplay, by guys who want to win, and that's the gist of why you follow sports anyway.

I got no explanation for NASCAR.  Hockey is just boxing whith skates and sticks.

Until soccer in the US gets the brothers interested in a big way, it will never rise to the level of the big three sports.  When they DO get interested, look for the US to dominate soccer worldwide.


EDIT for spelling, and not well



That was the most retarded post in the whole thread. Congrats.
6/10/2006 1:25:14 PM EDT
[#40]
soccer was invented by europoen women to get the men something to do while they went out and hunted and fought wars.

I'm sorry to burst the bubbles of the "its the most popular sport in the world" crowd but the rest of the world doesn't actually matter. Americans aren't NWO conformists. just because the krauts and the south americans are playing doesn't mean we are or infact give a flying fuck.

to qoute another poster in another thread:


hold on.... lemme go in the back and check...
Yeap sorry I'm fresh out of give-a-shit.
6/10/2006 1:26:02 PM EDT
[#41]

That was the most retarded post in the whole thread. Congrats.



Well, everyone's good at something.  My point is, if you want soccer in America, to reach the popularity and revenue expectations, of baseball, football, and basketball, then you are going to have the involve the statistically top athletic competitors.  Right now, in America,  that is black guys.  I don't have the reasons why, nor do I really care.  I am just observing the data.
6/10/2006 1:32:48 PM EDT
[#42]
lot's of black guys in South American soccer.
The European ones get bananas thrown at them.
Really bad over there.
6/10/2006 1:33:52 PM EDT
[#43]
World Cup is great
6/10/2006 1:49:08 PM EDT
[#44]
I'd watch it- if I had a TV.  Its more interesting to watch a group of in-shape guys run almost continuously and execute well coordinated passing games than it is to watch a bunch of fat guys line up, run around for 5 secs, take 20 sec break, repeat ad nauseum.  Heresy to a lot of Americans, but all well.
6/10/2006 9:00:22 PM EDT
[#45]
I love it!!  I can't wait for the Portugal game tommorow against Angola. Lot's of history in that one. Because of my family I will be rooting for the Portuguese to win it all. After tommorow they play Iran and then Mexico, so it will be great as an American of Portuguese descent  to watch them (hopefully) thrash those two shitbag nations.  Viva Portugal!!  
6/12/2006 8:39:57 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Soccer players are better athletes.   They have to be.

That said, professional soccer is never going to take off financially, at least to the level of professional football and baseball, until you make that team >75% black.

I don't know, and don't want to get into, all the socio-economic bullshit behind what I'm about to say, but here goes:

Modern American audiences instinctively know that a serioius competitive team in a serious competitive sport has more than 3 out of 11 black players.  The average American sports fan is not going to watch a bunch of skinny white boys run around kicking a ball.  However, you put 8 black guys out there, with a mexican, an asian, and a token white guy for goalie, and folks will know you came to play and win.  

Pot-bellied Uncle Cleatus may be a racist old bastard, but he has come to know that when he turns on the TV and sees a bunch of mostly black guys playing football, baseball, or basketball, he is going to see the best competition, and the most exciting gameplay, by guys who want to win, and that's the gist of why you follow sports anyway.

I got no explanation for NASCAR.  Hockey is just boxing whith skates and sticks.

Until soccer in the US gets the brothers interested in a big way, it will never rise to the level of the big three sports.  When they DO get interested, look for the US to dominate soccer worldwide.


EDIT for spelling, and not well





That post will drop the old IQ 20 points.
6/12/2006 9:20:01 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
World Cup...what's that?

Superbowl...?  Yea...

World Series...?  Ok

But "World Cup"?  Sorry...can't get too excited over soccer.



DAYTONA!



Go fast, turn left.  Yeah.  
6/12/2006 9:37:53 AM EDT
[#48]
I'm not really all that much into soccer, but it is definately more interesting than baseball, then again alot of things are.

I prefer Football or Basketball though.