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4/19/2006 11:19:40 AM EDT
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Everyone:

There is a private group that has been doing tactical patrols along the southern border of the USA for some time now. Unlike the "Minutemen", they do not dictate rules to their volunteers that prohibit the carrying of proper mil-spec long irons, and they are not afraid of camouflage clothing. And they don't just sit in lawn chairs with binos and make cell phone calls to the Border Patrol, either. Also unlike the "Minutemen", they have up until now kept a very low profile and shunned any public mention of their efforts.

The name of this group is the First Defenders Corps (FDC).

Though they have been around a while, they have just recently put up a new website (their first). www.firstdefenderscorps.com

I can tell you from first-hand field experience alongside these Operators that they are real players and that they are doing an excellent job on our southern border. They are making a big difference in the number of illegals coming across and they have been significantly slowing the northward flow of drugs and terrorists in every place that they conduct operations.

First Defenders Corps has been working closely with certain entities within the US Border Patrol (that prefer to remain anonymous) and they have caused very significant redeployment of BP agents and helicopters into hot areas that First Defenders Corps has given the BP intel on. They have received no public credit for providing this intel because of the sensitive nature of their operations.


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First Defenders Corps volunteers are performing a vital service on our southern border and they need your help ASAP. Because of the ever-increasing volume of cross-border insurgents and drug-smugglers, FDC now must dramaticallly expand their base of support. Anyone with a SpecOps background is invited to apply and to volunteer their services alongside these highly-skilled Operators. They also need folks with experience in tactical Field Support operations.

First Defenders Corps has been "taking the battle to the enemy", and they have had some significant successful operations in hostile areas along our southern border, areas where the Border Patrol is afraid to go, especially at night. These guys operate in full tactical mode, in areas of our border that are really under the operational control of the mexican crime cartels. They have conducted ops against the armed, uniformed mercenary troops of the crime cartels, and against the uniformed regular mexican army troops that routinely escort the people- and drug-smugglers that come across our borders. There are today a bit fewer of these drug-smuggling terrorists operating along our border, because of the actions of First Defenders Corps.

Because of the highly sensitive nature of their operations, everyone within the First Defenders Corps uses their radio call sign rather than their real names. These are not casual players in the high-stakes game of border security, these are highly-trained, highly-skilled professionals who have volunteered to participate in tactical operations against well-funded, well-equipped foreign enemy paramilitary troops, using nothing more than their own private resources. Members volunteer their own time away from jobs and family, and each Operator pays his own way to participate in these tactical missions.

Visit their website and read about the complete absence of Border Patrol in the areas where FDC conducts their missions. See the photos of their operators in the field, going where our US Border Patrol is afraid to tread. Read about the cross-border insurgency that is taking place every day and night, and it's not just unarmed mexican peasants who are coming across, either.

These fine men have carried the burden by themselves for long enough. They are now being overwhelmed by the enormous increase in cross-border insurgents, and they need a "leg up" to attract some additional qualified Operators and some donors willing to help them with more equipment, vehicles, and support for the costs of fuel, food, and other "expendables". With your help, they can expand their operations and keep making the the mexican crime cartels pay the dearest cost to come waltzing across our border and invading our nation.

I encourage you all to visit their website at www.firstdefenderscorps.com .

May the Lord save our Republic. May He guide each of you to do what you can to protect and defend Her.

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4/19/2006 11:23:56 AM EDT
[#1]
tag, for the inevitable train wreck to follow...........
4/19/2006 11:25:28 AM EDT
[#2]
I see nothing good coming of this.  I further see vigilantes who according to you have actually engaged in hostilities.  Is this sanctioned by the United States government, or is this some sort of private army that serves private interests?  
4/19/2006 11:26:04 AM EDT
[#3]
"Operators?"



Not that I don't applaude the theory
of what they're doing.
4/19/2006 11:28:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Ruh-Roh, George...  Popcorn poppin'!
4/19/2006 11:31:45 AM EDT
[#5]
this is a recipy for disaster, people doing what the .gov wont and for no pay or glory! fucking white people!
4/19/2006 11:31:52 AM EDT
[#6]
oh this could be entertaining.
4/19/2006 11:36:36 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm on pins and needles waiting to see how this shit turns out.
4/19/2006 11:38:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Lets see:

"Operators" "sensitive nature" "cross border insurgents" "specops" "secret radio call signs".


Oh, and we want you to donate money, gear and vehicles..........

What a bunch of fucking wannabes looking for a handout.

I do belive this is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen on here in 6 years.

Is this a joke or a setup for some kind of airsoft deal?
4/19/2006 11:39:33 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Lets see:

"Operators" "sensitive nature" "cross border insurgents" "specops" "secret radio call signs".


Oh, and we want you to donate money, gear and vehicles..........

What a bunch of fucking wannabes looking for a handout.

I do belive this is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen on here in 6 years.



And the winner is..................... The young fellow from Burqaville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4/19/2006 11:41:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Rosenrot? Like Rose-Red?

Be neat, if they werent probably a bunch of crazies.

Their phone number goes back to 'Border Rescue Arizona and the Arizona Citizens Militia'...
4/19/2006 11:41:38 AM EDT
[#11]
They’ve been around now for some time but before recently have been very secretive in everything they do, the property they operate on is privately owned so I’m sure there’s no government interference, as long as all operations are conducted on private property everything is legit as far as I know



Rosenrot
4/19/2006 11:44:06 AM EDT
[#12]
I would be very careful of any contact I had with those people.
4/19/2006 11:44:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Good for them!
4/19/2006 11:45:58 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
They’ve been around now for some time but before recently have been very secretive in everything they do, the property they operate on is privately owned so I’m sure there’s no government interference, as long as all operations are conducted on private property everything is legit as far as I know



Rosenrot



Right up until they actually murder someone who's only crime was wanting their children to become Americans.
4/19/2006 11:46:00 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
They’ve been around now for some time but before recently have been very secretive in everything they do, the property they operate on is privately owned so I’m sure there’s no government interference, as long as all operations are conducted on private property everything is legit as far as I know



Rosenrot



It prolly is on private ranches.

4/19/2006 11:50:54 AM EDT
[#16]
How dare they think that they can defend their own private property!!!!!

Hell, we all know they would serve America better by posting on supposed "freedom" supporting websites, like Arfcom,  about how pissed off they are about the government for not protecting our borders.  They could even go so far as posting daily about how many places they post about how pissed off they are.  They could even do the ultimate and post about how they write furious letters to their congressmen.  

Yah, that would be so much more helpful than doing something so stupid, so Anti-American like protecting their property or even protecting America from invasion.

How dare they think that actions are better then talk or posting on some website about how mad they are!!!



Geez..you guys...sometimtes I swear I am on a Socialist website......
4/19/2006 11:55:00 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
How dare they think that they can defend their own private property!!!!!

Hell, we all know they would serve America better by posting on supposed "freedom" supporting websites, like Arfcom,  about how pissed off they are about the government for not protecting our borders.  They could even go so far as posting daily about how many places they post about how pissed off they are.  They could even do the ultimate and post about how they write furious letters to their congressmen.  

Yah, that would be so much more helpful than doing something so stupid, so Anti-American like protecting their property or even protecting America from invasion.

How dare they think that actions are better then talk or posting on some website about how mad they are!!!



Geez..you guys...sometimtes I swear I am on a Socialist website......



Actually, you are on a realist website.  Realists know that men of action who are busy doing things, don't have time to post about it on websites.  Clandestine operations posted on public internet forums are no longer clandestine.  Real " Operators " don't post their plans, talk about their plans or disclose their plans until they are an ancient history lesson, and usually not even then.  

I note that this goes back to the militias.  I picture the proverbial 350 pound guy with an SKS and a springfield ( too cheap for Colt ) .45 demanding to be called colonel.
4/19/2006 11:59:50 AM EDT
[#18]
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4/19/2006 12:00:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Looks like this is the Arizona Citizens Militia with a new name and look..... why the need for a name change and acting like you were a secret before?
4/19/2006 12:07:13 PM EDT
[#20]
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4/19/2006 12:08:43 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm glad some of you guys weren't around on this date 231 years ago.

Blimey!We'd be drinking tea.


Ever wonder what it will be like 200 yrs from now?If our grandchildren will wonder why we stood idly by and did nothing?

4/19/2006 4:07:04 PM EDT
[#22]
More information on operators/militia groups actively patrolling the southern borders:

Ranch Rescue USA

Border Rescue

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4/19/2006 4:13:29 PM EDT
[#23]

4/19/2006 4:19:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Tag.


-K
4/19/2006 4:21:25 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I'm glad some of you guys weren't around on this date 231 years ago.

Blimey!We'd be drinking tea.


Ever wonder what it will be like 200 yrs from now?If our grandchildren will wonder why we stood idly by and did nothing?




Please dude.

Spare the drama.

The day I listen to an IA resident telling me what to do
in MY state will be the day I turn in my man card.

C'mon down and serve if you're so fired up.

I figgured you'd keep editing your post until you got a rise, so, here it is.

4/19/2006 4:23:51 PM EDT
[#26]
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4/19/2006 4:36:52 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm glad some of you guys weren't around on this date 231 years ago.

Blimey!We'd be drinking tea.


Ever wonder what it will be like 200 yrs from now?If our grandchildren will wonder why we stood idly by and did nothing?

hr


Please dude.

Spare the drama.

The day I listen to an IA resident telling me what to do
in MY state will be the day I turn in my man card.

C'mon down and serve if you're so fired up.

I figgured you'd keep editing your post until you got a rise, so, here it is.




He does bring up a valid point, we should always support those’s actively volunteering their time to insure a future for America and its citizens no matter what
4/19/2006 4:36:53 PM EDT
[#28]
If only we had more
4/19/2006 4:43:55 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm glad some of you guys weren't around on this date 231 years ago.

Blimey!We'd be drinking tea.


Ever wonder what it will be like 200 yrs from now?If our grandchildren will wonder why we stood idly by and did nothing?




Please dude.

Spare the drama.

The day I listen to an IA resident telling me what to do
in MY state will be the day I turn in my man card.

C'mon down and serve if you're so fired up.

I figgured you'd keep editing your post until you got a rise, so, here it is.




He does bring up a valid point, we should always support those’s actively volunteering their time to insure a future for America and its citizens no matter what



Sorry.  No.

4/19/2006 4:45:06 PM EDT
[#30]
What turns you off about them Goonboss
4/19/2006 4:56:36 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Lets see:

"Operators" "sensitive nature" "cross border insurgents" "specops" "secret radio call signs".


Oh, and we want you to donate money, gear and vehicles..........

What a bunch of fucking wannabes looking for a handout.

I do belive this is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen on here in 6 years.

Is this a joke or a setup for some kind of airsoft deal?



They can start calling themselves "operators" when they can prove to me that a MAJORITY of their members are former Tier 1 assets w/actual operational experience.

While I applaud what they are attempting to do, they way they are going about it is comical, embarrassing and stero-typical.

Congratulations on playing into the 'lawn-chair  dangerous redneck with a gun' cliche.

I have been a big city swat cop for a while now and I don't consider myself to be an "Operator" even though I have been shot/shot at/shot dudes.  Mostly, I think of myself as a 'Participator' with better training and faster reation times.


I dub them clowns  until forced to eat crow (which I view as remote).


BC
4/19/2006 5:01:46 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
What turns you off about them Goonboss



"Operator" is the first one.

Being secretive, yet, on the intraweb is another.

Reeks of Wanna-be SEALS
thrashing about in the sand and
being self important.

I don't like how the Minutemen were downed in the origional post
either.

I'm sure all those "Operators" are tier 1.
4/19/2006 5:07:14 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
They’ve been around now for some time but before recently have been very secretive in everything they do, the property they operate on is privately owned so I’m sure there’s no government interference, as long as all operations are conducted on private property everything is legit as far as I know



Rosenrot



So tell us what you really know?  Either they're wanna-bes playing sojer or they have been committing a variety of secret crimes.  Like it or not deadly force is not legal to use against trespassers, sniping Mexicans, although they might enjoy it, ain't legal no matter where you are unless fired upon first.  And you really think that these firefights would remain totally secret from legitimate sources of news?(inside and outside of the MSM).   Me I tend to believe more in people who aren't afraid to use their real names and show their real faces.
4/19/2006 5:11:01 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What turns you off about them Goonboss hr


"Operator" is the first one.

Being secretive, yet, on the intraweb is another.

Reeks of Wanna-be SEALS
thrashing about in the sand and
being self important.

I don't like how the Minutemen were downed in the origional post
either.

I'm sure all those "Operators" are tier 1.




You may be right, however I and several friends have contacted the FDC several times requesting membership info and the first thing they ask in replies is prof you belonged to a special forces unit. So if in fact they are what they claim to be they have earned the tag “operator.” They were secretive about their existence up until now, not future operations, lets face it telling Mexican nationals your planning on patrolling a certain area is not going to persuade them in anyway to rethink their position so why bother trying to cover them up.
4/19/2006 5:13:00 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What turns you off about them Goonboss



"Operator" is the first one.

Being secretive, yet, on the intraweb is another.

Reeks of Wanna-be SEALS
thrashing about in the sand and
being self important.

I don't like how the Minutemen were downed in the origional post
either.

I'm sure all those "Operators" are tier 1.




You may be right, however I and several friends have contacted the FDC several times requesting membership info and the first thing they ask in replies is prof you belonged to a special forces unit. So if in fact they are what they claim to be they have earned the tag “operator.” They were secretive about their existence up until now, not future operations, lets face it telling Mexican nationals your planning on patrolling a certain area is not going to persuade them in anyway to rethink their position so why bother trying to cover them up.



It's total BS AFAIC.

Big tme tier 1 guys posting pseudo-toughguy pics on the net.



screams SOCOM to me.
4/19/2006 5:16:13 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
<snip> I'm sure all those "Operators" are tier 1 <snip>



Of course they are!


Didn't you read the job posting for the NMC gig on USAJobs.com?  It clearly states that you have to run around in the desert on your off-time, rousting "undocumented landscapers".  You know....during the 3.71 hours a month you're not on the road with "glowy" stuff.

ETA:   First time I have ever seen official (i.e. public acknowledgement) of a Q.  Might as well post a bunch of SAPSAR stuff while you're at it. (regaring NMC on USAJobs).


Or maybe I am just old and set in my ways.





BC
4/19/2006 5:18:16 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They’ve been around now for some time but before recently have been very secretive in everything they do, the property they operate on is privately owned so I’m sure there’s no government interference, as long as all operations are conducted on private property everything is legit as far as I know



Rosenrot



So tell us what you really know?  Either they're wanna-bes playing sojer or they have been committing a variety of secret crimes.  Like it or not deadly force is not legal to use against trespassers, sniping Mexicans, although they might enjoy it, ain't legal no matter where you are unless fired upon first.  And you really think that these firefights would remain totally secret from legitimate sources of news?(inside and outside of the MSM).   Me I tend to believe more in people who aren't afraid to use their real names and show their real faces.





Do you also feel this way with CIA, Delta and Navy seal operatives? I don’t have a problem with them not discussing their real identities being that’s totally irrelevant in what their doing
4/19/2006 5:19:58 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

It's total BS AFAIC.

Big tme tier 1 guys posting pseudo-toughguy pics on the net.



screams SOCOM to me.




I concur.







BC
4/19/2006 5:21:05 PM EDT
[#39]
The American Citizen can not be allowed to protect themselves from crime.  The police are the only ones who can protect us civilians.
4/19/2006 5:21:17 PM EDT
[#40]
tag
4/19/2006 5:24:40 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
The American Citizen can not be allowed to protect themselves from crime.  The police are the only ones who can protect us civilians.



Seems thats the way everyone is starting to think now days, A defeatist attitude about everything
4/19/2006 5:30:10 PM EDT
[#42]
The chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall. John has a long moustache. John has a long moustache.

PITSNIPE OUT
4/19/2006 5:32:21 PM EDT
[#43]
It is foolish to believe the original post in entirety without some sort of verification. It is equally foolish to dismiss the original post in entirety without knowing the facts.

I would love to believe that it was all true. I've got my fingers crossed.

These people could be just dusting off illegals that other Americans don't want to. There is precedent for that, you know...
4/19/2006 5:33:21 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The American Citizen can not be allowed to protect themselves from crime.  The police are the only ones who can protect us civilians.



Seems thats the way everyone is starting to think now days, A defeatist attitude about everything



No one said anything about protecting yourself from crime.

Running around in the desert, pretending to be a Navy Ranger is just plain gay.



BC
4/19/2006 5:33:59 PM EDT
[#45]
If they are on private land and have permission, I have absolutely problem with it. Who cares if they wear cammo and carry "assult rifles" I would think the majority of people here werent sheeple, I guess not.

4/19/2006 5:34:31 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The American Citizen can not be allowed to protect themselves from crime.  The police are the only ones who can protect us civilians.



Seems thats the way everyone is starting to think now days, A defeatist attitude about everything



No one said anything about protecting yourself from crime.

Running around in the desert, pretending to be a Navy Ranger is just plain gay.




BC



Gay or not, its your right.
4/19/2006 5:38:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Eat CROW people.  From their own website:



This organization is NOT for everyone.  Membership is limited to two groups:  
experienced Operators and experienced Field Support personnel.


                         Field Support Personnel

We are looking for people with the following verifiable and demonstrable experience:


Drivers with experience in extreme off-road conditions

Supply personnel (scroungers)

Communications experts

Cooks that can double as camp guards

Mechanic - Vehicle

Mechanic - A&P

Pilots - Helicopter and Fixed-wing



                                   Operators

We are looking for Operators with the following verifiable and demonstrable
experience:

Former Special Forces, SEALS, Force Recon, Rangers, and personnel from
other high-risk Special Ops backgrounds.

Each Operator is responsible for providing at least the minimum personal
equipment, as described by the First Defenders Corps Gear List.  That list is
provided on a "need to know" basis.





Sounds like the 350# gun show Seal wanabees selling beef jerky have to sit this one out.  Shit people do a little research.

Oh, "there not real because they post on the internet."  Whatever, sounds like they are tooling up and the internet is a great tool to do so.

Everyday I get a little more convinced that this country is FUBAR.

I'm outta here
4/19/2006 5:39:02 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The American Citizen can not be allowed to protect themselves from crime.  The police are the only ones who can protect us civilians.



Seems thats the way everyone is starting to think now days, A defeatist attitude about everything



No one said anything about protecting yourself from crime.

Running around in the desert, pretending to be a Navy Ranger is just plain gay.




BC



Gay or not, its your right.



Not one person says it's not.

For a group like that to have members calling themelves "operators"
et al smacks of idiotism.

If all those guys are SOCOM...Special Forces, SEAL, Force Recon, PJ....

Ok....I'll defer to the "operator" tag.

When you get old like me, all you need to hear is
a red flag here, a red flag there, and, usually the whole tree is rotten.
4/19/2006 5:41:28 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Eat CROW people.  From their own website:



This organization is NOT for everyone.  Membership is limited to two groups:  
experienced Operators and experienced Field Support personnel.


                         Field Support Personnel

We are looking for people with the following verifiable and demonstrable experience:


Drivers with experience in extreme off-road conditions

Supply personnel (scroungers)

Communications experts

Cooks that can double as camp guards

Mechanic - Vehicle

Mechanic - A&P

Pilots - Helicopter and Fixed-wing



                                   Operators

We are looking for Operators with the following verifiable and demonstrable
experience:

Former Special Forces, SEALS, Force Recon, Rangers, and personnel from
other high-risk Special Ops backgrounds.

Each Operator is responsible for providing at least the minimum personal
equipment, as described by the First Defenders Corps Gear List.  That list is
provided on a "need to know" basis.





Sounds like the 350# gun show Seal wanabees selling beef jerky have to sit this one out.  Shit people do a little research.

Oh, "there not real because they post on the internet."  Whatever, sounds like they are tooling up and the internet is a great tool to do so.

Everyday I get a little more convinced that this country is FUBAR.

I'm outta here



Go.  You won't be missed
4/19/2006 5:47:31 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm sorry, but you'd think that if there were a bunch of dudes running around the desert actually doing what these guys claim to be doing, that the Internet is the LAST place you'd start recruiting or advertising.
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