[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock AD? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/15/2006 7:16:05 AM EDT
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So I am at a gun range I visit maybe once per year.... and there is a new sign out front - no weapons allowed in the building (where they take your money) Apparently someone came in with a glock, in the glock factory case. When he dropped his range bag on the floor, the force of the glock moving inside the case, made the trigger get pulled by the part of the case that goes inside the trigger guard. Nobody was hurt, but they wont allow weapons inside anymore because of this. What do you guys think of this story? I took a look at all my glock cases, and there is no way possible a factory glock case can allow this - there is no room for movement at all. |
He's talking about the OLD CASES, Cleatus. There's a post that goes thru the trigger area. Of course you can't get the case closed unless the trigger is all the way rearward, IIRC. So the story doesn't make sense. |
WOW They changed the design! The older cases had something in the trigger guard. |
Easy there Jethro...I only have a couple Gen 1 Glocks and haven't pulled them out in awhile. 
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I believe the older style tupperware case's do in fact have a plastic knob that goes inside the trigger guard. That said why was the gun hot. I mean i am all for carrying with one in the chamber but putting a gun in the storage case like that leads me to believe thats how he stored his gun. This guy was an idiot and idiots make bad things happen for the rest of us. |
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The original Glock cases had this problem. The owner/operator of two ranges (one in the DFW area, the other close to Austin) shot himself while warning a customer about this and demonstrating how it could happen. The Glock was loaded in the case and discharged. The current Clock cases do not have this problem. |
+1 But there's a retainer in front of the grip that prevents the pistol from moving forward and "pulling" the trigger. |
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I say BS. The older case for my Glock has that tube that fits inside the trigger, but if I recall correctly, it also has a molded piece of plastic that conforms to the front of the grip to prevent forward/rearward movement. Add to that the heavier trigger pull of a Glock (compared to a single action pistol) a number of extraordinary ordinary events in the right sequence for this to happen. |
smart. |
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Here is the deal about the OLD glock box. The concept at Glock was a loaded gun should never be stored in their box. So little protusions were molded into the center post which made it so the pistol could not be placed in the box with the trigger forward. The idea was to force the owner to clear the weapon before boxing the gun. Clear weapon, press trigger, and box the gun. That way it was known the boxed gun was unloaded and safe. Problem... someone did not want to box an unloaded pistol, so when they put the pistol in the box, they pushed and wiggled to make it fit. It fit OK... it pressed the trigger fully rearward and the pistol discharged. Sometime after that Glock changed the design of their tupperware boxes to only have the post in the middle where the pistol could be boxed trigger forward or trigger rearward. Before the bunch starts attacking my post let me add this. I am a Glock trained transition instructor and I have been through the armorers course for certification and recertification more times than I have kept count. |
Even so, they should really put a label in the case warning you not to store a loaded gun in it. |
Are you sure? Trigger looks pulled? I'm not disputing that a loaded weapon would fit (looks like enough room). |
At least that bastard didn't go full-auto and spin around on the floor. |
Dont think so. The grip would stop any forward movement - that little lip doesnt really do anything. |
+1. |
That's the new style, not the original "tactical tupperware". |
| HOw fucking hard would it be for Glock to just put a small Walther ppk or baretta type safety on the slide? Ive even seen an after market type 1911 safety, but you have to cut up the frame to install it. I like the GLock for a lot of reasons but it's lack of a manual safety is just stupid. |
Where is the manual safety on a revolver? On a Sig? |
Yeah, and every revolver should require a safety too. Maybe we should do it so there are 2 keys that need to be turned, just like launching a nuke, before the gun can fire. Or maybe people shouldn't do stupid things with the gun, then blame the gun. Funny things with Glocks, when they are loaded, and the trigger is pulled, they go off. |
Yessir. They do get the strangest shooters out there. I really have to watch others while I am there. Because they are one of the FEW ranges that allow FMJ ammo, you get a lot of young EBR shooters.... who love the cool factor and dont have a lot of weapons safety training. 
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I always figured that a safety inside the trigger guard wasn't that safe myself as a snag on a holster, a stick, or whatever can still make the gun fire. A grip safety on the other hand requires two points of contact, a condition that is much less likely to happen accidently. Ed |
These images are not of the earliest Glock factory case. I'll post some images of the case I have. I don't think it has the molded ridge to locate the front of hte pistol - not sure..... its been a few years since I have used the original factory case. |