[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ADD/ADHD (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/22/2006 3:37:49 PM EDT
| I wanted to see how many people really have it. poll to follow! |
I need a life.
| I'm not totaly convinced that there is such a disorder, but then again, I don't have it. Sometimes I wonder if it's a condition that drug companies thought up to sell drugs. That said, I don't have it, so I can't say for sure. Never met anyone who had it either. |
1. Yes, it is real -BUT- 2. It is way overdiagnosed. |
Thanks for your expert opinion.
| All these labels that people put on kids are a crutch they use to allow the kids to behave however they want and to let the parents say oh I can't do any thing about it because he has this or that alphabet soup acronym problem. So it is a crutch for the kids and the parents both. Back in our day you had discipline and rules to follow and if not then there were serious consequences for your actions. I am not saying there aren't kids who are hyper as hell and can't focus and such but we never had drugs and special treatment to fix it we just got our butts beat and grounded from everything including Christmas! |
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I've got one of em, just can't remember which one. Life is a bitch when you can't remember what you are supposed to be doing. Ever. On the other hand I can visualize every part in a chevy small block engine and remember all sorts of stuff that does not relate to what I NEED to remember. Example: why bugs can run up walls but we can't......surface to volume ratio. With ADD your memory is highly selective and you don't control the selection....at all. Yup, it's real alright. I pray to God that those who babble that it is not real will get it really bad and that it will be permanent and irreversible. That way they will become better, more tolerant people, after having to live with it's effects. (This from me....the most intolerant person there is.) Not so sure that ADD is really a disorder though. It is more like: wanting to know what is over the next hill and having to find out. Mankind needs a certain number of people who think up the new ideas. When you are supposed to be learning the economic products of bolivia you care about the .303 rifle. When you are supposed to learn about the .303 you care about the economy of argentina. Visualise life without the products of ADD people...no electricity, no internal combustion engines, no airplanes, back to the stone ages. On the air, land or sea....bless them all.....with a .303 First rank..........FIRE! Second rank....... |
| Probably ADD, but undiagnosed, although I am able to focus when absolutely necessary. I also have mild OCD that mostly manifests in compulsive editing (of documents). I just made about 7 edits to this as I was typing, for example, and mainly just to make it sound better rather than to fix actual mistakes. |
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I have it. It can be a real problem, but I choose to go unmedicated 99% of the time. I eat right and exercise and that really helps, along with taking breaks and knowing exactly when during the day I can focus. I also get to my office at 5:30 am. I get all of my daily tasks done before the destractions show up. Most of the drugs I have tried tend to stifle my creativity and natural inquisitiveness that are important aspects to being a scientist. Adderal is scary effective for helping you accomplish low level tasks for hours on end without fatigue, such as reading and paperwork, hence it's propensity for widespread abuse. However, it ruins my ability to come up with creative solutions to complicated and analytical problems. ADHD is very overdiagnosed, IMHO. As a college professor, I shake my head as I rutinely see 15% of my class rolls marked with: ATTENTION: FERPA CONFIDENTIAL, CONDITION: ADHD. Get soda machines out of middle schools, get the kids some healthy food and exercise, and hold more parents responsible for their kid's behavior, and 80% of ADHD cases would dissappear. By the way, the biochemistry of ADHD is as very well understood, more so than many other diseases, illnesses, disorders, and conditions. |
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This "disorder" may exist but is exacerbated by the overuse of DAYCARE!!!! And, divorced familys with children taken out of routine environments with constant shifting of "here and there". Everyone wants there child to fit into some kind of mold... Notice how this is diagnosed for little boys more so than girls? Boys are active and "they" (asshat fuckers) want to drug them down....I urge you to seriously consider the ramifications of my points and try not to pick bits and pieces to fit your arguments. Argue if you must but don't ignore the statistics my friends. I'm here to help... |
| My two boys are two of the most well behaved kids you will ever meet. We get compliments on them all the time. There is no bad behaviour from either of them. One however has ADD and the other does not. We tried for years after the eldest was diagnosed with ADD to manage it through diet and other ways but the simple fact of the matter is that without his meds he will fail in school. so to all you uneducated idiots saying I'm a bad parent with a crutch GO FUCK YOURSELF! Until you have a kid with it you don't have slightest fucking idea what you are talking about and are making a serious ass out yourself. |
BS. Also, you're from the PRC so you aren't allowed to have opinions anyway. I was diagnosed with it when I was younger (oddly enough by my biologist mother. ADD was new back then, our doc rolled his eyes, . It takes a fair amount of self discipline to do things. IMO, the drugs (ritalin) are a cruch. You can focus if you try hard. I gave up on the stuff when I was 15 and they told me if I was on it I couldn't go to USNA. It was very hard, but such is life. I still have trouble focusing sometimes, but managed a 3.75 in grad school anyway. It is heavily heavily misdiagnosed by lazy people though. My peers when I was little would get diagnosed for it for no reason that I could see. They were nothing like I was. It can be very odd. I can read a book I like in an ungodly short amount of time. Tune everything out and go right to it. Other things it's almost painful to focus on, and I have to keep refocusing myself. But, you just have to deal with it. Basically, if you're kid or you have it, I suggest medication, and a strict regime of discipline and the like. Use that to get them off medication. IMO the best thing for any ADD person would be to send them to the Marines. |