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Posted: 12/27/2005 8:41:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 8:48:43 PM EDT
As a normal soldier, you get only a "Gun Salute", not a 21 gun salute. The items tucked into the flag is 3 empty brass casings from the gun salute.

Aviator
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 8:52:13 PM EDT
I'm very sorry for your loss.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 9:19:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 9:22:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 9:24:04 PM EDT by Pangea]
I think the 21 gun salute is for dead presidents that served in wartime.

etaToday the national salute of 21 guns is fired in honor of a national flag, the sovereign or chief of state of a foreign nation, a member of a reigning royal family, and the President, ex-President and President-elect of the United States. It is also fired at noon of the day of the funeral of a President, ex-President, or President-elect.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 9:28:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:
The items tucked into the flag is 3 empty brass casings from the gun salute.

Aviator



Not any more. We went over this on a thread a few months ago, but per the Flag Code, the flag is presented 'pure.' We present the rounds separately after the ceremony is over. It's a nice tradition, and it's still practised in some circles, but it's wrong.

The firing party is 'Three Volleys', not '21 guns'

NTM
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 10:36:38 PM EDT
21 gun gun salutes are National Salutes limited to National Salutes, Heads of State, Heads of Governments (in limited situations), etc
(from Navy Customs and Traditions)
Gun Salutes
In the days of cannon, it took as long as twenty minutes to load and fire a gun. When a ship fired her guns in salute, she rendered herself powerless for the duration. By emptying their guns, the ship's crew showed shore batteries and forts that they were no threat. Over time, this gesture became a show of respect, with both shore and ship gun batteries firing volleys.
While many people like to say the 21 gun salute was a tribute to the American Revolution, a number determined as a result of adding together the numbers 1+7+7+6, the truth is the 21 gun salute was an effort to cut costs. The habit of firing salutes became wasteful, with ships and shore batteries firing shots for hours on end. This was particularly expensive for ships, which had a limited space to store powder (which went bad quickly in the salt air). The British admiralty first dictated the policies now in place as a practical matter to save gunpowder. The rule was simple, for every volley fired by a ship in salute, a shore battery could return up to three shots. The regulations limited ships to a total of seven shots in salute, so the 21 gun-salute became the salute used to honor the only the most important dignitaries.
Today, the U.S. Navy Regulations proscribe that only those ships and stations designated by the Secretary of the Navy may fire gun salutes. A national salute of 21 guns is fired on

* Washington's Birthday
* Memorial Day
* Independence Day
* To honor the President of the United States
* To honor heads of foreign states.

Additionally, ships may, with approval from the office of the Secretary of the Navy, provide gun salutes for naval officers on significant occasions, using the following protocol:

* Admiral -17 guns
* Vice Admiral -15 guns
* Rear Admiral (upper half) -13 guns
* Rear Admiral (lower half) -11 guns

All gun salutes are fired at five second intervals. Gun salutes will always total an odd number.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 1:50:24 AM EDT
The standard for your typical Military funeral is 3 VOLLEYS, not 21 guns. That is of course if you dont meet the status criteria as posted above.
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