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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:54:36 AM EDT
Okay got into a debate with some one over what is a tripod. I said it wasnt he said it is.

Okay heres the layout, it has 3 points of contact on the surface however has 12 legs supporting it. I was told Im an idiot and a dumb ass because its a tripod.

So am I wrong, is it in fact a tripod? I said its closer to a dodecapod than a tripod
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 8:56:03 AM EDT
Uh, yes. I mean no.

WTF??
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 8:57:11 AM EDT
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 8:59:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gus:
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....


But it has 12 legs making contact with the ground.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:00:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By gus:
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....


But it has 12 legs making contact with the ground.



then wouldnt it have 12 points of contact?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:01:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By gus:
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....


But it has 12 legs making contact with the ground.



then wouldnt it have 12 points of contact?



I'm afraid that at this point, pics are required.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:01:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By gus:
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....


But it has 12 legs making contact with the ground.



then wouldnt it have 12 points of contact?


It does have 12 legs that support it, but three points of contact on the surface.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:02:20 AM EDT
then how the hell does it have 12 legs that contact the ground?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:02:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 9:06:29 AM EDT by KA3B]
If you have to ask then yes, you are wrong.


Tripod
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:03:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
then how the hell does it have 12 legs that contact the ground?


Because it does damnit. Now come on its not a tripod now is it. 12 legs on the ground.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:04:22 AM EDT
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:06:06 AM EDT
I have a serious case of the What the Fucks here.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:07:57 AM EDT
I knew this guy that we called tripod. I have no clue what your talking about.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:08:27 AM EDT
TRIPOD

If it's got a number of contact points that isn't three, it isn't a tri-pod.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:11:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us


No, it has three point of contact on the top of it on the surface of the object, however it has three twelve points of contact below it.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:11:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
TRIPOD

If it's got a number of contact points that isn't three, it isn't a tri-pod.


EGGZFUCKINGZACTLY thats what I tried telling him.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:12:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us


No, it has three point of contact on the top of it on the surface of the object, however it has three twelve points of contact below it.



Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:22:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 9:24:26 AM EDT by tyman]

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us


No, it has three point of contact on the top of it on the surface of the object, however it has three twelve points of contact below it.



There ya go retard.

It doesnt matter how many points on contact it has with the object its holding up.

The tripod comes from the legs on the ground or whatever surface it's sitting on. Bipod = two legs.
Tripod = 3 legs.


By his rationale, a tripod/T&E for a .50cal would be a unipod because of the mounting bracket it sits into.


ETA: Wait, wtf? 3 legs with 12pts of contact each? what the fuck? Make a fucking picture weirdo.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:24:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 9:24:25 AM EDT by olyarms]

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us


No, it has three point of contact on the top of it on the surface of the object, however it has three twelve points of contact below it.



There ya go retard.

It doesnt matter how many points on contact it has with the object its holding up.

The tripod comes from the legs on the ground or whatever surface it's sitting on. Bipod = two legs.
Tripod = 3 legs.


By his rationale, a tripod/T&E for a .50cal would be a unipod because of the mounting bracket it sits into.


No shit, this is what I just could not get passed, and than he got pissed at me for telling him its not a tripod. I was the fucking idiot.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:25:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
if it has 12 legs that all contact the ground then how does it only have three points of contact with the ground?

use MS paint or something to show us


No, it has three point of contact on the top of it on the surface of the object, however it has three twelve points of contact below it.



There ya go retard.

It doesnt matter how many points on contact it has with the object its holding up.

The tripod comes from the legs on the ground or whatever surface it's sitting on. Bipod = two legs.
Tripod = 3 legs.


By his rationale, a tripod/T&E for a .50cal would be a unipod because of the mounting bracket it sits into.


No shit, this is what I just could not get passed, and than he got pissed at me for telling him its not a tripod. I was the fucking idiot.



Find new friends dude.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:27:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 9:28:57 AM EDT by Ardenner]
Imagine a table supported by legs that are v's. So with 6 legs you get 3 point of contact with the ground. Now bisect the each V and you have a table supported by 9 legs, 3 points of contact with the ground, and so on.

Sort of like a suspension bridge. At the top point there is only one point of contact where all the cables meet. At road level there are many points of contact.

Is it a tripod? Not in the traditional sense, but I suppose it depends on the definition.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:33:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:
Imagine a table supported by legs that are v's. So with 6 legs you get 3 point of contact with the ground. Now bisect the each V and you have a table supported by 9 legs, 3 points of contact with the ground, and so on.

Sort of like a suspension bridge. At the top point there is only one point of contact where all the cables meet. At road level there are many points of contact.

Is it a tripod? Not in the traditional sense, but I suppose it depends on the definition.


Get out of my freaking head.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:35:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:
Imagine a table supported by legs that are v's. So with 6 legs you get 3 point of contact with the ground. Now bisect the each V and you have a table supported by 9 legs, 3 points of contact with the ground, and so on.

Sort of like a suspension bridge. At the top point there is only one point of contact where all the cables meet. At road level there are many points of contact.

Is it a tripod? Not in the traditional sense, but I suppose it depends on the definition.




I think that's called a "table"
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:36:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 1:26:29 PM EDT by USMC88-93]
What you are asking is not clear,

Question 1.

How many points of contact on the ground to hold the object up

Question 2

How many points of contact with the surface of the object.

Question 3

Do the 3 legs then split and form multiple sub legs that in turn contact the ground, if so do you mean each leg splits into 12 points of contact with the ground

Question 4

You as a human have 2 legs which makes you Bi-pedal. If you stand on your toes you then presumably have 10 points of contact with the ground. Does that change the fact that you are Bi-pedal----- The answer is no, it does not.


The answer. Regardless of the number of points of contact with the ground the object is supported with a tripod arrangement. Consider the 12 points of contact as toes just as in the above example of human toes and still being Bi-pedal. It is the number of supporting contact points on the object that determines Tripod, or bipod etc not the number of contact points with the surface.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:40:33 AM EDT
If there's three legs that are each made of four individual bars, then it's still a tripod as far as I know.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:43:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:44:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By gus:
3 points of contact with the surface (ground, bench, table, or whatever) = tripod. That's kinda the definition afterall....


But it has 12 legs making contact with the ground.



Not when it's running.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:45:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/327975.jpg



That's in a fully retracted position, if you extended it all the way up it would appear to have only six legs, but still three points of contact. The parallel bars act as sliders to move the load up and down.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:46:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:48:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zatu:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/327975.jpg



That's in a fully retracted position, if you extended it all the way up it would appear to have only six legs, but still three points of contact. The parallel bars act as sliders to move the load up and down.



but what if you extended it up half way?????

it would have one section with 6 legs, one with twelve, another with 6, and three points of contact.

it's still a tripod
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:11:10 AM EDT
Yep, its a tripod.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:13:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:
Yep, its a tripod.


Explain
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:19:24 AM EDT
Which direction is the conveyor belt running?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:21:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:36:52 AM EDT by The_Reaper]
A tripod is a 3-legged supporting stand.

The "legs" are the parts that touch the ground. Just like your legs.

They key to your answer is how many LEGS it has.

It doesn't matter how many things go up to support the object.

Even if each leg has a foot with four toes, and each toe touches the ground,
it is still a tripod because of the three legs.

I am a biped, even if I stand on my toes.

A bicycle is still a bicycle, whether it has one seat or two.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:27:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
A tripod is a 3-legged supporting stand.

The "legs" are the parts that touch the ground. Just like your legs.

They key to your answer is how many LEGS it has.

It doesn't matter how many things go up to support the object.

Even if each leg has a foot with four toes, and each toe touches the ground,
it is still a tripod because of the three legs.

I am a biped, even if I stand on my toes.

I bicycle is still a bicycle, whether it has one seat or two.



Yeah I know, it has 12 legs.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:27:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
A tripod is a 3-legged supporting stand.

The "legs" are the parts that touch the ground. Just like your legs.

They key to your answer is how many LEGS it has.

It doesn't matter how many things go up to support the object.

Even if each leg has a foot with four toes, and each toe touches the ground,
it is still a tripod because of the three legs.

I am a biped, even if I stand on my toes.

I bicycle is still a bicycle, whether it has one seat or two.






You mean wheels, right?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:33:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:34:58 AM EDT by The_Reaper]

Originally Posted By Kooter:

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
A tripod is a 3-legged supporting stand.

The "legs" are the parts that touch the ground. Just like your legs.

They key to your answer is how many LEGS it has.

It doesn't matter how many things go up to support the object.

Even if each leg has a foot with four toes, and each toe touches the ground,
it is still a tripod because of the three legs.

I am a biped, even if I stand on my toes.

A bicycle is still a bicycle, whether it has one seat or two.






You mean wheels, right?



Nope. A two seater bicycle is still a bicycle. (tandem bicycle)

A bicycle with one wheel.... well, that is a unicycle.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:35:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:38:37 AM EDT by patchouli]


is this a bipod or a hexpod(3x3)?

6 points are touching the ground, doesn't matter how many actually contact the rifle right?

Is the pistol grip acting as the third point in a tripod for the barrel?
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:36:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
A tripod is a 3-legged supporting stand.

The "legs" are the parts that touch the ground. Just like your legs.

They key to your answer is how many LEGS it has.

It doesn't matter how many things go up to support the object.

Even if each leg has a foot with four toes, and each toe touches the ground,
it is still a tripod because of the three legs.

I am a biped, even if I stand on my toes.

A bicycle is still a bicycle, whether it has one seat or two.



Yeah I know, it has 12 legs.



Crap, now I need a picture.

I thought I had it visualized. Guess I was wrong.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:36:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By patchouli:
www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=548/31131FDCCOCT_003-med.jpg

is this a bipod or a hexpod(3x3)



Two legs = bipod
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:39:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:

Originally Posted By patchouli:
www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=548/31131FDCCOCT_003-med.jpg

is this a bipod or a hexpod(3x3)



Two legs = bipod



Well, clearly that thing has 6 legs. They're just shorter.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:40:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:

Originally Posted By patchouli:
www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=548/31131FDCCOCT_003-med.jpg

is this a bipod or a hexpod(3x3)



Two legs = bipod



:werd:

bipod



And look at the picture that was posted of the 4section legged tripod. Its still a tripod.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:42:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:44:22 AM EDT by patchouli]
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:43:26 AM EDT
So two legs in close proximity become one in your guys world, what a trip.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:46:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By patchouli:
tinypic.com/iqhuvs.jpg



Still a bi-pod.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:47:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
So two legs in close proximity become one in your guys world, what a trip.



Two legs in close proximity are still two legs.
And hence still meet the definition of a bipod.

If the two legs became one, in our world, we would have said it was a monopod.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:48:15 AM EDT
I think it's a bipod supported by two tripods.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:50:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By patchouli:



feet
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:50:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:53:12 AM EDT by The_Reaper]
Darrin Prince sells bipods and monopods for the AR-50.

The bipod attaches to the forward most part of the stock.

The monopod attaches to the rear most part.

Overall, the gun might be considered a tripod.

But the front part is still just a bipod.
And the rear is still just a monopod.


Edit: the AR-50 with the bipod and monopod installed would be a tripod in reference to, say, the scope.

It is the reference point of what is being supported that dictates the type of pod, by definition.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:51:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By patchouli:
tinypic.com/iqhuvs.jpg



feet



+1

It's like saying that all the knobs on a bicycle tire would make it not a bicycle.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 10:53:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 10:58:14 AM EDT by tyman]

Originally Posted By patchouli:
tinypic.com/iqhuvs.jpg



Those are "feet"....not "legs".

It's still a bipod.


ETA dang, people beat me to it
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