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12/5/2005 8:17:25 PM EDT
So should cockfighting be legal? What are your thoughts on it? I admittadly have a bit of curiosity about seeing a cockfight and was just watching TV and it was mentioned, soit made me think. Poll coming.
12/5/2005 8:18:28 PM EDT
[#1]
I saw that on tv once it looked pretty gay to me and these 2 nuns were betting on it
12/5/2005 8:19:13 PM EDT
[#2]
I dont know something about 2 dude duling weiners, just screams gay! Maybe its just me...
12/5/2005 8:19:31 PM EDT
[#3]
We don't talk about cockfight-club...  
12/5/2005 8:20:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Bad stuff, fighting roosters cannot be reinserted into a more natural enviroment either. They'll just want to attack anything they see.
12/5/2005 8:21:41 PM EDT
[#5]
Legal or not, I could really care less.
12/5/2005 8:25:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Can I eat the dead one.......if so I'm all for it.

ETA....I'M TALKING CHICKEN!!!!!!!
12/5/2005 8:25:57 PM EDT
[#7]
My cock is a lover not a hater
12/5/2005 8:27:19 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Can I eat the dead one.......if so I'm all for it.


Ill passed on drugged chicken
12/5/2005 8:27:51 PM EDT
[#9]
I for one think it would be quite entertaining.  Morally wrong... but entertaining non the less.  One time we put 3 of those cat-face spiders in a jar together.  After violently shaking them up they were biting each other like crazy.  It was pretty cool as a child, but I think that this experience is where my aracnaphobia comes from.  What is the correct word for fear of roosters anyway?
12/5/2005 8:28:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Here's how I answer those questions......if Gramps was alive and standing over my shoulder right now......what would he think?

Not to mention you left out the option on your poll of:

It should be illegal, and promoters/trainers should get to spend a couple minutes apiece in a ring with Ken Shamrock.....see how they like being made to fight against their will.....
12/5/2005 8:29:22 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can I eat the dead one.......if so I'm all for it.


Ill passed ontake druggedfried chicken

12/5/2005 11:35:13 PM EDT
[#12]
I personally think it's on the wrong side of entertainment, but it's better than dog-fighting.  But if you really want to take all that time and effort to train a chicken and hope it makes it through the first match or two.  Hell, it's your chicken

It's culturally acceptable in some places, not in others.  It's more real than professional wrestling.  It's a good way to get illegal aliens in a group for the Border Patrol, now we just need to La Migre to show up.

It's got to be way down on my list of things to worry about.
12/5/2005 11:48:19 PM EDT
[#13]
I would have come in here and made some smart-ass comment about it being sort of gay for two dudes in the shower to cock-fight, but looks like I'm a day late on that.

As for giving a crap about cock-fights, come on, it's a chicken for hell's sake!  It's the moral equivalent of pitting the mighty worm on a hook against a rainbow trout.  I don't care if one, the other, or both die.  They are just noisy, feathered shit factories with less brains than a cockroach.
12/7/2005 10:24:09 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I would have come in here and made some smart-ass comment about it being sort of gay for two dudes in the shower to cock-fight, but looks like I'm a day late on that.

As for giving a crap about cock-fights, come on, it's a chicken for hell's sake!  It's the moral equivalent of pitting the mighty worm on a hook against a rainbow trout.  I don't care if one, the other, or both die.  They are just noisy, feathered shit factories with less brains than a cockroach.




you sir, made my day. Fucking brilliant.
12/7/2005 10:29:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Anything that a degenerate like George Washington enjoyed is way too depraved for me.
12/7/2005 10:32:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Make it legal, on PPV
12/7/2005 10:38:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Should stay illegal. I don't enjoy watching animals suffer. When hunting I do my best to put the animal down as fast as possible.
12/7/2005 10:39:04 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Anything that a degenerate like George Washington enjoyed is way too depraved for me.



Is that the George Washington who owned, sold and worked human beings as slave labor?

Just clarifying.

I base my morality in easy terms....not George Washington's. Do I get pleasure from watching things kill each other in an unnatural environment? No, and to do so is wrong.

Do I own other human beings, and do with them as I please? No, and to do so is wrong.

You can justify either, if you want to bad enough. But, you'll be rationalizing something that is at its core against natural harmony. Even George Washington was capable of being a shitbag, in spite of his contributions to this country.
12/7/2005 10:40:32 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anything that a degenerate like George Washington enjoyed is way too depraved for me.



Is that the George Washington who owned, sold and worked human beings as slave labor?

Just clarifying.

I base my morality in easy terms....not George Washington's. Do I get pleasure from watching things kill each other in an unnatural environment? No, and to do so is wrong.

Do I own other human beings, and do with them as I please? No, and to do so is wrong.

You can justify either, if you want to bad enough. But, you'll be rationalizing something that is at its core against natural harmony. Even George Washington was capable of being a shitbag, in spite of his contributions to this country.



A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy, right, sport?
12/7/2005 10:52:21 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anything that a degenerate like George Washington enjoyed is way too depraved for me.



Is that the George Washington who owned, sold and worked human beings as slave labor?

Just clarifying.

I base my morality in easy terms....not George Washington's. Do I get pleasure from watching things kill each other in an unnatural environment? No, and to do so is wrong.

Do I own other human beings, and do with them as I please? No, and to do so is wrong.

You can justify either, if you want to bad enough. But, you'll be rationalizing something that is at its core against natural harmony. Even George Washington was capable of being a shitbag, in spite of his contributions to this country.



A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy, right, sport?



As I said, you can justify anything if you really want to. Anything.

I mean, I'm probably wrong. Lots of people like to watch animals suffer, and tear each other apart. It's not a character flaw or anything. Who am I to judge?



12/7/2005 10:56:48 PM EDT
[#21]
On the same level as dog fights and bull fights.. remain illegal.
12/7/2005 10:58:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Are we talking about Male Porn Stars or something else here?
12/7/2005 11:05:08 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I dont know something about 2 dude duling weiners, just screams gay! Maybe its just me...



Dude you owe me a keyboard. MT Dew is all over it now.



12/7/2005 11:19:06 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I would have come in here and made some smart-ass comment about it being sort of gay for two dudes in the shower to cock-fight, but looks like I'm a day late on that.

As for giving a crap about cock-fights, come on, it's a chicken for hell's sake!  It's the moral equivalent of pitting the mighty worm on a hook against a rainbow trout.  I don't care if one, the other, or both die.  They are just noisy, feathered shit factories with less brains than a cockroach.





12/7/2005 11:19:10 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I dont know something about 2 dude duling weiners, just screams gay! Maybe its just me...



+1
12/8/2005 1:15:22 AM EDT
[#26]
12/8/2005 1:22:45 AM EDT
[#27]
its fucked up like the hood rats who feed their fighting dogs gun powder, but it should be legal
12/8/2005 1:26:11 AM EDT
[#28]
It is legal in your state.  The biggest cockfight tournament in the country is held in Sunset Louisiana every year.  People come from all over the world to attend.  I think four other state still allow cockfighting too.

Keep it legal, IMHO.
12/8/2005 1:27:04 AM EDT
[#29]
As long as its not guys fighting over my cock, it is ok.
12/8/2005 1:51:00 AM EDT
[#30]
It's hard to believe these guys pay over a thousand dollars for a friggen rooster.

As for the fighting stock, how many are domestic breeds as opposed to birds brought in from the Phillipines and Central America?
12/8/2005 2:59:29 AM EDT
[#31]
As a child, my grandpa gave us an old Leopard hound which we named Jack. A finer hunting dog never lived and  most every Sunday night when we came home from church, Jack would be waiting by the back door.

Dad and I'd change into old clothes grab up a couple 22 semi-auto rifles and the 3 of us would take the walk across the pasture, crossing a creek and into the woods behind our home. Jack would tree a coon and dad and I would chase it out onto a limb, (by shooting behind him) which we could shoot off and then Jack and the coon would go at it.

Having witnessed this staged fight between dog and coon on many ocassions I can honestly say no dog or cock fight I have ever witnessed came anywheres close to the raw viciousness of those sunday nights growing up.

Next sunday night, there Jack would be on the back porch, chopping at the bit for his weekly bout. He was my pal and best friend and together growing up, we played hell on squirrels, rabbits, possums or deer, ya simply told him what ya wanted and he'd tree it or run it over the top of ya depending on your choice.



Exposing a pet or animal to the viciousness I've noted above for the benefit of the animal's pleasure is one thing, but making money off the misuse and mistreatment of animals tormented into becoming killers is flat wrong in my book. Some animals, it's true have a fighting nature as a part of their DNA but there's a fine line between right and wrong in regard to this topic and profiting from the results is where I draw the line, YMMV.

Mike
12/8/2005 3:25:30 AM EDT
[#32]
i duno i think id have to watch one first
12/8/2005 4:21:34 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
 What is the correct word for fear of roosters anyway?



Lesbianism??



My father brought home a chick he found along the road in the middle of nowhere. This was a game cock. The next spring he was mature and whipped every rooster we had. the next few springs all the roosters we had we his decendents. We had cock fights ever day. I would come home and have 3 dead roosters in the yard. These roosters were half game and half bantam and would fight every day all day. We ate lots of chicken those years.
12/8/2005 5:20:11 AM EDT
[#34]
I fight with mine several nights a week!

Oh, you mean chickens?
12/8/2005 5:27:04 AM EDT
[#35]
My mom's uncle ran a farm raising fighting roosters.

That guy had some wild stories
12/8/2005 5:35:08 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
its fucked up like the hood rats who feed their fighting dogs gun powder, but it should be legal



When I worked in Georgia about ten years ago some coworkers of mine used to give their fighting dogs cocaine before each match (probably use crank these days) They invited me a couple of times but I never personally attended a fight, sounded like a great way to get arrested. As far as the ethics of animal fighting I couldn't care less one way or the other, not my problem.
12/8/2005 5:35:38 AM EDT
[#37]
Illegal
12/8/2005 5:46:50 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would have come in here and made some smart-ass comment about it being sort of gay for two dudes in the shower to cock-fight, but looks like I'm a day late on that.

As for giving a crap about cock-fights, come on, it's a chicken for hell's sake!  It's the moral equivalent of pitting the mighty worm on a hook against a rainbow trout.  I don't care if one, the other, or both die.  They are just noisy, feathered shit factories with less brains than a cockroach.




you sir, made my day. Fucking brilliant.



Yep. Chickens aren't considered animals in La so we still have cockfighting. I've been, my brother fights 'em.  Not my cup of tea, but harmless.
12/8/2005 5:50:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Pitting two of any animal (dogs.roosters,etc) against one another for your amusement and or profit is wrong and perhaps shows underlying issues in the minds of the participants.

12/8/2005 5:58:17 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Pitting two of any animal (dogs.roosters,etc) against one another for your amusement and or profit is wrong and perhaps shows underlying issues in the minds of the participants.




Ummm..... Roosters fight to the death without us starting it. Putting them in the pit just allows people to bet on it.
12/8/2005 5:59:31 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I dont know something about 2 dude duling weiners, just screams gay! Maybe its just me...



12/8/2005 6:02:17 AM EDT
[#42]
Ummm...


notice the part in my post about pitting animals  for PROFIT,it  kind of addressed your "point" preemptively.
12/8/2005 6:11:21 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
Ummm...


notice the part in my post about pitting animals  for PROFIT,it  kind of addressed your "point" preemptively.



I don't condone cock fighting, but the evil bastards will kill one another if you don't thin out all but one rooster. Rooster is dead whether you put him in the pit or the pot. In a perfect world roosters wouldn't kill each other.

I find the pit to be repugnant, but the roosters are hard wired to fight to the death.
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