Posted: 12/2/2005 9:30:45 AM EDT
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Senator Demint / Graham- I write to you because Rep Murtha doesn't want people not in his district to contact him. I label this "Homeland Security" as I believe Mr Murtha has become a danger to this nation. For the record, I applaud Mr. Murthas service to his country in Viet Nam, without regard to his actual merit, simply because he answered his country's call. But somewhere along the line, Mr. Murtha has deviated from service to his country to what I can ONLY regard as lending aid and comfort to the enemy. To signal al Queda that our military is somehow "broken, living hand to mouth" is to tell the terrorists they are winning. It is to encourage them in their attempts to kill our soldiers. It is to bolster their efforts, to give them reason to keep up the fight. How is this NOT treason? Relatedly, how can YOU not speak publicly against it? How can you NOT condemn it? Publicly, vehemently, repeatedly. I have a good friend in a war zone RIGHT NOW. He is risking his life for the country Mr. Murtha USED TO fight for. On my friends behalf, I'd persoanlly like to punch Mr Murtha in the face. in On behalf of my friends wife and four children, who stand to be widowed and orphaned by the very people who use IED's, the ones who Mr Murtha says has our military "broken, living hand to mouth" I'd like to him him square in his treasonous mouth. I am NOT a violent person. I have NEVER ONCE in my life struck another human being in anger. I beleive in words, reason, facts, and dispassionate action. I am a lover of peace. But at this time, I feel palpable rage at this small man. In wisdom, I shall stay far from him. But I do desire to see YOU take action against what CERTAINLY is enormously ill advised, if not treasonous. I await your response. garandman |
I hope it was too, I liked the majority of the letter but I would re-think the whole punching in the face thing....just seems to belittle your character. I do, however agree with the substance. |
| I couldn't agree more garandman. I have withheld any extreme vitrol for this guy because I was "afraid" to criticize a veteran too loudly. But when the veteran is helping the enemy because politics have rotted his brain, then screw him. Any good deeds he did 30+ years ago have to come behind the damage he is doing now. And just because he served his country in the past, it doesn't mean that he's a scumbag now. Good for you for asking for answers from your representatives in Washington. |
That's because there are a whole lot of treasonous bastards enjoying the freedom in this country to undermine our troops and freedoms, but taking no responsibility for their actions and pretending that simply criticizing the government and the military is somehow "patriotic". 
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How is a member of the US House of Representatives telling the enemy they are winning NOT treason? Yes, ITS A SERIOUS CHARGE. But would he have to actually pick up a rifle and shoot a US soldier for him to be guilty of treason? |
Yer prolly right. But, THere are times in life when ACTION is merited. As I said, NEVER in my life have I seen such a time. I've never punched anyone in my life. I'm thirty eight years old. But on behalf of my friend, his wife, and four children (which is but one such family of a hundred thousand) I see no other appropriate response. God help me, I don't. |
I know where you're coming from man.....I'm 37 and have punched and been punched for much less several times in my life. This guy most certainly deserves it. All the best to your buddy and his family.  |
garandman, Graham takes the high road on most things but is very sensitive to what we in his district think. So while I don't expect him to adopt your sentiment, i'm sure he will read it and think. About your not ever have been violent or struck another human, don't knock it till you try it. |
If he said it in the well of the House, it cannot, per the Constitution be held against him. Article I, Section 6:
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How the $^%& do you get that? Here's Art 1 Sec 6 IN ITS ENTIRETY ...
IN NO WAY does that give them carte blanche for ANY speech in the well. Can they threaten the Presidents life in the well? Can they commit libel and be guiltless, IF they are in teh well? All it says is IF you are gonna question them, it MUST be in the well. Dude....you got a PhD in ConLaw?? |
Did you say what Murtha said? AS I said, I've never punched anyone in the face. I've never punched anyone anywhere. So you can expect me to do a very poor job of it. I haven't any experience to draw on. But I am willing to learn on the job.  |
Actually, it DOES give them carte blanche to say anything in the floor they wish. They have full criminal and civil immunity for anything they say during any official session of Congress or on any Committee or Sub-Committee. There is case law to back me up. The punishment can only meted out by the House (or Senate) per Article , Section 5. The MOST they can do is expel a member. |
Then it could be funny! You could swing really hard and I could duck out of the way and you could fall over, like most comical punches. |
Quite possibly. The only thing funnier would be an old fart like Murtha ducking my punch, and me landing on my arse. 
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Treason can be punishable by death. Saying something in the well of the House or Senate carries a maximum penalty of expulsion from Congress (after a 2/3 vote by the House or Senate). And full criminal and civil immunity even after expulsion. |
That would serve as a nice minimum. My point is he SHOULD at the least be TRIED for treason. And I'll live with the decision of the Senate. You can bet, just like Clintons impeachemnt, even tho he didn't get kicked to the curb, it served notice to politicians to think twice about their behaviour. Or words. |