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11/30/2005 5:18:19 AM EDT
My brother is just starting to look into Bison hunting.  He will probably go in a year or two.  There are clases to take and it is a limited draw.  While we were talkinh the topic of what caliber will do the job came up.  My understanding is that they pretty much walk you up to the animal and say shoot that one.  The shots would be fairly close range with them just standing still.  Considering how large the animal is, but also how easy it would be to get good shot placement, do you think a 30-06 with a 200 grain slug would be enough.  
11/30/2005 5:30:33 AM EDT
[#1]
I found this.    http://www.chuckhawks.com/bison_cartridges.htm  30-06 will work, but .40 or better recommended.
11/30/2005 5:33:05 AM EDT
[#2]
I'll try to post a pic later where a friend of a friend shot a bison w/ a bow. I shit you not.

11/30/2005 5:36:13 AM EDT
[#3]
Sounds exciting! After the cow safari this year, I'll have to look into bison 'hunting'!

Don't the hairy plains cows just sort of stand there?
11/30/2005 5:43:25 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Sounds exciting! After the cow safari this year, I'll have to look into bison 'hunting'!

Don't the hairy plains cows just sort of stand there?



Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.
11/30/2005 5:46:31 AM EDT
[#5]
You will want to use something like a .460 Wby Mag. or equivalent. And you want to shoot a bullet that is at least 500 Grains in weight.
11/30/2005 5:49:19 AM EDT
[#6]

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Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.



Don't get me wrong. I've had bison before, and it is great. I also have no problem with people shooting the things. But to call it 'hunting'?
11/30/2005 5:51:46 AM EDT
[#7]
this guys is by me, i know him

www.beaverbogg.com


he does bufalo for 1300$, and u can and he does hunt with 50bmg..


11/30/2005 5:52:21 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.



BULLSHIT!

I will not disagree that bison is good meat and that it is better for you because it is leaner.  However, there is no way in hell that you will convince me that a buffalo steak is better than a corn fed Nebraska moo-cow-fuck-steak that has been aged 21 days.

Back on topic, I have been thinking about trying to get together a hunting preserve in Western Nebraska to offer a more "authentic" hunting experience.  I thought that if you could lease 10,000+ acres to roam a large herd with limited human contact and limit hunters to horseback that you might be able to provide a relatively interesting expereince.  Otherwise, you are just shooting livestock for fun.

SBG
11/30/2005 5:55:00 AM EDT
[#9]
A friend of mine drew a tag in the Henry mountains, which has a free ranging bison herd.  I went with him.  The guide recommended 30-06.  He said more was unnecessary.  My buddy took a 300 Weatherby with 220 grain Nosler Partitions, and shot his animal at 470 yards.  It dropped with one shot.  They are pretty big animals, but they didn't strike me as particularly tough or aggressive.  IMHO, a 30-06 with good 180 grain bullets would be fine.
11/30/2005 5:58:25 AM EDT
[#10]
Everyone I have read or talked to was less than impressed by thier hunt.  

Its basically like going out into a field and shooting a cow.  Sometimes you have to shoot several times though.

You can hunt mountain bison in Idaho, which is a bit more of a challange chasing them up and down mountains in thick trees.  Or true free range in Canada, but I think they have some cross-bred species and they dont let you bring them back in the US.

I would read tons of reviews if I were you (or your brother) before going.  Too many of them seem dissatisfied.  So know what you're getting.
11/30/2005 6:00:22 AM EDT
[#11]

They are pretty big animals, but they didn't strike me as particularly tough or aggressive.


Every so often, in Yellowstone, some visitor walks up to a Bison to take the "big cow's" picture.  The Bison decides they are too close and runs over them with sad results.

I'm not saying that they are extremely aggressive or mean, but they aren't cows.  They are wild and will kill you if you get cute.

They must be treated with respect.
11/30/2005 6:41:57 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.



BULLSHIT!

I will not disagree that bison is good meat and that it is better for you because it is leaner.  However, there is no way in hell that you will convince me that a buffalo steak is better than a corn fed Nebraska moo-cow-fuck-steak that has been aged 21 days.

Back on topic, I have been thinking about trying to get together a hunting preserve in Western Nebraska to offer a more "authentic" hunting experience.  I thought that if you could lease 10,000+ acres to roam a large herd with limited human contact and limit hunters to horseback that you might be able to provide a relatively interesting expereince.  Otherwise, you are just shooting livestock for fun.

SBG



So you Quote me saying it is better for you and comment "BULLSHIT"  Then in your own post you say "it is better for you"

You contradict yourself.  Are you agreeing it is better for you or not.  It has lower fat, lower colesteral, and higher protein content than beef.  The biggest reason it is considered better for you is the colesteral issue.
11/30/2005 6:48:44 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Sounds exciting! After the cow safari this year, I'll have to look into bison 'hunting'!

Don't the hairy plains cows just sort of stand there?



Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.



I bagged one here last year. Tasted great.
11/30/2005 6:53:41 AM EDT
[#14]

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Everyone I have read or talked to was less than impressed by thier hunt...  

I would read tons of reviews if I were you (or your brother) before going.  Too many of them seem dissatisfied.  So know what you're getting.



It sounds like they had unrealistic expectations beforehand.

They probably had the thundering herd image from "Dances With Wolves" in their heads.

If you don't expect more than what it is, there's no reason to be disappointed.
11/30/2005 6:53:42 AM EDT
[#15]

While we were talking the topic of what caliber will do the job came up


45-70

From one of these;

11/30/2005 6:56:55 AM EDT
[#16]



I envy you: If EVER there was a good excuse to buy a Buffalo gun!

Guy I know that shot one said it was about as challenging as hunting the family dog – but I didn’t care – he gave me several sleeves of meat – and that stuff is GOOD!
11/30/2005 6:57:17 AM EDT
[#17]
If I went on a bison shoot, it would be with an old black powder cartridge gun (45/70 for example), or possibly a plains rifle muzzleloader. I'm sure it could be done rather easily with a .338 Win Mag or larger,but there's something about using a big chunk of lead in front of compacted black powder that would make it a bit more interesting.


11/30/2005 7:03:16 AM EDT
[#18]
yea.  it's not hunting.  as you can walk up and pop one in the head with a 44 mag and kill it.  kind of like i bear hunt it went on.  walk for days following dogs.  they bark and then you run  to the base of a tree and about 35' up us boo boo.  he looks down at you like "oh shit!"  you pop him and the guidea nd packer each take a shot and he is dead when or shortly after he hits the ground.  MY HERO!  yea i stuffed him and he makes a nice rug but i also feel sorry for him.  i knind of lost my enjoyment of hunting from that point on.  if you want to kill wild animals for meat that's fine.  i do.  i just don't call it hunting anymore.  a 30-06 with 220g. soft points will do the deed.  
11/30/2005 7:16:46 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Yes,  they just stand there.  You don't go hunting bison for the challenge, but you go for the meat.  The meat is much better for you than beef.  It is also kinda exciting to be able to hunt a Bison.  They are a large animal with a lot of history to them.



BULLSHIT!

I will not disagree that bison is good meat and that it is better for you because it is leaner.  However, there is no way in hell that you will convince me that a buffalo steak is better than a corn fed Nebraska moo-cow-fuck-steak that has been aged 21 days.

Back on topic, I have been thinking about trying to get together a hunting preserve in Western Nebraska to offer a more "authentic" hunting experience.  I thought that if you could lease 10,000+ acres to roam a large herd with limited human contact and limit hunters to horseback that you might be able to provide a relatively interesting expereince.  Otherwise, you are just shooting livestock for fun.

SBG



So you Quote me saying it is better for you and comment "BULLSHIT"  Then in your own post you say "it is better for you"

You contradict yourself.  Are you agreeing it is better for you or not.  It has lower fat, lower colesteral, and higher protein content than beef.  The biggest reason it is considered better for you is the colesteral issue.



Please ignore Kyle, his reading comprehension failed to get out of bed with him this morning.


SBG
11/30/2005 7:36:45 AM EDT
[#20]
the modern buff hunt is one of the saddest things i've ever seen... i ain't no peta fucktard and i support hunting 1000% but them things just fucking stand there while you walk up and shoot 'em. and they'll keep standing there if you need 2 or 3 rounds to finally put it down. yeah, this ain't hunting, it's basically just culling. no sport whatsoever. now, a cape buff!
11/30/2005 7:39:38 AM EDT
[#21]

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the modern buff hunt is one of the saddest things i've ever seen... i ain't no peta fucktard and i support hunting 1000% but them things just fucking stand there while you walk up and shoot 'em. and they'll keep standing there if you need 2 or 3 rounds to finally put it down. yeah, this ain't hunting, it's basically just culling. no sport whatsoever. now, a cape buff!



I agree 100%, I am no bleeding heart type, I mean I buy Bison meat quite often even, but Buffalo 'hunting' is really just being your own butcher, which if that's your thing huzzah, but I don't see the sport in it.
11/30/2005 9:00:18 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
You will want to use something like a .460 Wby Mag. or equivalent. And you want to shoot a bullet that is at least 500 Grains in weight.





Bad gunsmith, bad!
11/30/2005 9:13:18 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

They are pretty big animals, but they didn't strike me as particularly tough or aggressive.


Every so often, in Yellowstone, some visitor walks up to a Bison to take the "big cow's" picture.  The Bison decides they are too close and runs over them with sad results.

I'm not saying that they are extremely aggressive or mean, but they aren't cows.  They are wild and will kill you if you get cute.

They must be treated with respect.



Growing up, I knew a man who raised Buffalo. Every spring he'd gather and wean just like that cattle operations do. Only difference on his outfit was someone would get hurt. Badly.
Buffalo are not to be trifled with.
11/30/2005 12:21:48 PM EDT
[#24]

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Please ignore Kyle, his reading comprehension failed to get out of bed with him this morning.


SBG



Him: Buffalo meat is better for you than beef.

You: Bullshit!  Buffalo meat is better for you than beef!

Him: Uh, yeah.

You: You suck at reading!