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11/19/2005 8:30:03 PM EDT
We have just had a Harbor Freight tools open here.  Me and my friend went in there today.  I think those people who sell tools at the fleamarket go there and buy stuff then just mark it up 3 times the price and sell it.

They got alot of pretty cheap stuff in there, is it decent.  I did get some stuff, sandpaper for the hood Im fixing and a rope since the Boondock Saints taught me I always need a rope.

It also amazing the amount of entertainment you can get from a $8 air hammer, I can spend hours destroying stuff with it.


Is it decent stuff or mostly junk there
11/19/2005 8:33:59 PM EDT
[#1]
CHINA DIRECT
11/19/2005 8:34:19 PM EDT
[#2]
You get what you pay for...

Some of the stuff is okay...say you need an anvil or a vise.. those dont break very often...
or If you need a tool for a once in a blue moon job....

Otherwise, stay far far away... most of the stuff is poor quality garbage...
11/19/2005 8:35:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Disposable tools for short term use.  Keep a few for backup if your good stuff craps out but don't depend on them for industrial use.  I use the $59 chopsaws in my wroughtiron shop.  One of those will last me about a year, cutting light material.  1/2" is about the thickest stuff that I use. I keep the dead ones for parts.
11/19/2005 8:35:00 PM EDT
[#4]
You have to be pretty careful with what you buy there.


Lot's of cheap chinese crap.


Some decent chinese crap.


and some good chinese stuff.  
11/19/2005 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#5]
When the angle grinders go on sale, I buy them for like $10 a piece. Sure they break when I abuse the shit out of them, but...they were $10 bucks.
11/19/2005 8:36:27 PM EDT
[#6]
I'll add: Most everything in the store will go on sale at some point during the year. Buy it then.
11/19/2005 8:38:52 PM EDT
[#7]
I noticed they will replace the hand tools if they break.  

Since they usually get stolen for borrowed and never returned may as well have the cheap stuff.
11/19/2005 8:39:41 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
You get what you pay for...

Some of the stuff is okay...say you need an anvil or a vise.. those dont break very often...
or If you need a tool for a once in a blue moon job....

Otherwise, stay far far away... most of the stuff is poor quality garbage...



'zactly.

11/19/2005 8:40:14 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
You get what you pay for...

Some of the stuff is okay...say you need an anvil or a vise.. those dont break very often...
or If you need a tool for a once in a blue moon job....

Otherwise, stay far far away... most of the stuff is poor quality garbage...



I broke a vise.  If you need hardcore production grade stuff, Harbor Freight should not be on your shopping list.

However, I do have a bunch of stuff from there.  
11/19/2005 8:42:40 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
We have just had a Harbor Freight tools open here.  Me and my friend went in there today.  I think those people who sell tools at the fleamarket go there and buy stuff then just mark it up 3 times the price and sell it.

They got alot of pretty cheap stuff in there, is it decent.  I did get some stuff, sandpaper for the hood Im fixing and a rope since the Boondock Saints taught me I always need a rope.

It also amazing the amount of entertainment you can get from a $8 air hammer, I can spend hours destroying stuff with it.Just don't expect it to last as long a high quality one. The shop where I work went through 4 of them in 2 years.


Is it decent stuff or mostly junk there
Both, just look it over carefully before you buy and don't think you've bought anything that is more than just for hobby play time.
Get name brand stuff for paying jobs.



11/19/2005 8:45:39 PM EDT
[#11]
The only thing I ever bought from them is a tool to open watch backs for battery replacement.

It is really a piece of crap but it does work.  Made in India.
11/19/2005 8:48:15 PM EDT
[#12]
I use Harbor Freight tools for backups, loaners and the boneyard box.  It's a good thing they are so cheap, they get destroyed so easily.
11/19/2005 8:56:22 PM EDT
[#13]
in my experience, a 50 cent screw driver works just as well as a 5 dollar screw driver.

precision tools are a different story, but most of the stuff i use might as well be cheap chinese crap.
11/19/2005 9:04:22 PM EDT
[#14]
I use them for tools that won't get used often....
11/19/2005 9:09:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Good for the basics such as hand tools and stuff you wouldn't ordinarily find like steel sawhorse kits for 17$. (my last purchase)  Nothing to drop big money on.  The most complex thing I've ever bought there is a 5 gallon compressor for inflating trailer tires and such.  (99$)  Would it run air tools in a commercial enviroment?  Probably, but not for very long.
11/19/2005 9:14:38 PM EDT
[#16]


I like the HF, good tools for the price. Wait till stuff goes on sale cuase of it is not worth the regular price. Id rather spend the money saved from buying HF tools on nicer stuff I like more like huntings,stuff for the family. Tools are one thing to me tools, not a trophy item that sits in a tool box.
11/19/2005 9:16:56 PM EDT
[#17]
Harbor Freight is the best place to by air compressor fittings and hoses.
They carry a huge assortment.
The hoses are goodyear rubber, too.
11/19/2005 9:21:53 PM EDT
[#18]
I make my living with my tools.....so it's either Snap-on, or Matco for my tools.
I do look for cheapo things at HF like wire brush's and the like......rather spend a buck on a disposable tool than 15 bucks on a disposable tool.
11/19/2005 9:22:13 PM EDT
[#19]
95% junk.  Well, let's call it "one-use tools" because after that, it probably won't work.

Around here we call it "the redneck toolstore" if that gives you any indication.


Woody
11/19/2005 9:26:16 PM EDT
[#20]
I use mostly use Snap On,  but since  the current Snap On Dealer here is a peckerhead I have been buying Craftsman stuff
11/19/2005 9:32:55 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I noticed they will replace the hand tools if they break.  

Since they usually get stolen for borrowed and never returned may as well have the cheap stuff.




Yeah, but only if you still have the receipt unlike craftsman where you just bring it in and they give you a new one on the spot (except for rachet drivers and air tools).

Your right about the borrowed or stolen part at least your not out as much $$$.

One thing to NOT buy there is sawzall or hacksaw blades they might as well be made of cardboard ;(

11/19/2005 9:34:16 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:


One thing to NOT buy there is sawzall or hacksaw blades they might as well be made of cardboard ;(





Will remember.  went through 6 name brand ones from Lowes to get hlafway through a bolt on the Impala last year,  $15 for that
11/19/2005 9:53:09 PM EDT
[#23]
I bought 2 drills there because I had to build a robot for an engineering class for under $50. The 2 drills

were insanely cheap, and the fact that I had to take the drills apart meant I wasn't going to care how

long they lasted. Unfortunately one of the chains on my robot broke so I got a 75 on the final.
11/19/2005 10:08:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Junk, junk, junk...............but it sooo cheap that you can't afford not to buy some of it!!!
11/19/2005 11:12:46 PM EDT
[#25]


Cheap ass china crapola!  Disposable tools!  Loaners! Cheap gifts for people you know don't like you!

If you like Harbor Freight tools then you probably shop in the JC Whitney catalog too.
11/19/2005 11:15:16 PM EDT
[#26]
cheaper than hell chinese made shit, but you can make a bad assed set of AK rivet squeezers outta their $12 bolt cutters.
11/19/2005 11:19:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Lots of stuff there is actually north american made, depends on what you are looking at. I haven't any problems with anything I have bought there.

11/19/2005 11:43:09 PM EDT
[#28]
uh oh...I've got an abrasive blasting cabinet coming from there.  Oh well...one more thing to beat the crap out of and torture test.  On the bright side, someone else is paying for it anyways though.
11/20/2005 6:20:29 AM EDT
[#29]

Disposable tools for short term use. Keep a few for backup if your good stuff craps out but don't depend on them for industrial use. I use the $59 chopsaws in my wroughtiron shop. One of those will last me about a year, cutting light material. 1/2" is about the thickest stuff that I use. I keep the dead ones for parts.



Yea, what he said!
11/20/2005 6:46:52 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Disposable tools for short term use.  Keep a few for backup if your good stuff craps out but don't depend on them for industrial use.  I use the $59 chopsaws in my wroughtiron shop.  One of those will last me about a year, cutting light material.  1/2" is about the thickest stuff that I use. I keep the dead ones for parts.



I recently bought one of their chopsaws for a job I'm on.  I'm a cabinetmaker, so this is the first time, and probably last time that I needed to cut metal for a job (aluminum handrail extrusions).

I figure as long as the saw lasts for the job, I'm money ahead.  And with the big Harbor Freight sticker on the guard, I can leave the saw on-site without worrying about it growing legs and walking off.  
11/20/2005 6:58:00 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Disposable tools for short term use.  Keep a few for backup if your good stuff craps out but don't depend on them for industrial use.  I use the $59 chopsaws in my wroughtiron shop.  One of those will last me about a year, cutting light material.  1/2" is about the thickest stuff that I use. I keep the dead ones for parts.



I recently bought one of their chopsaws for a job I'm on.  I'm a cabinetmaker, so this is the first time, and probably last time that I needed to cut metal for a job (aluminum handrail extrusions).

I figure as long as the saw lasts for the job, I'm money ahead.  And with the big Harbor Freight sticker on the guard, I can leave the saw on-site without worrying about it growing legs and walking off.  



Don't use that abraisive wheel chopsaw to cut aluminum. You'd be much better off and safer using a regular circular saw and standard wood blade. We cut 3/8" thick panels with a standard Milwaukee circular saw at work.  A blade will last for a long time if you use cutting wax on it.  The abraisive wheel will clog up with aluminum and explode.  Don't even try it.
11/20/2005 7:05:50 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

Don't use that abraisive wheel chopsaw to cut aluminum. You'd be much better off and safer using a regular circular saw and standard wood blade. We cut 3/8" thick panels with a standard Milwaukee circular saw at work.  A blade will last for a long time if you use cutting wax on it.  The abraisive wheel will clog up with aluminum and explode.  Don't even try it.



Well hell, I wish I'd known that before.  

I've already made probably 2-300 cuts on it, but having seen the effects of a grinding wheel disintegrating at high speeds, I'll take your advice.

Thanks Pangea.
11/20/2005 7:38:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Most of it is crap. I go there for an occasional tool that I know I will use just once, and for the cheap screwdrivers for jobs that I can just throw away afterwards as they get messed up.

They do have some cool stuff there. I got a set of letter stamp punches which are had to find at other stores. I'm considering getting a cheap vise for my workbench at home. The big tool retrieval magnets are very fun to play with. I buy cheap solder there, it works okay. They have a good selection of air hose and fittings.
11/20/2005 7:57:08 AM EDT
[#34]
The only thing I buy from them is a certain 1/2 drive impact wrench that they've been selling for years. It has a built-in extension. Made by Central Pneumatic, I think. Not too impressed with the rest of the stuff they sell.

Being a mechanic, I see a lot of new employees come & go where I work and they don't make a good impression (with me or the customers they're working in front of) when they try to get the job done with tools bought from a Harbor Freight store.

Sears/Craftsman is a better choice....when it comes to torque wrenches, I gotta have Snap-On, though.

Almost all of my "around the house" tools are Craftsman.

Scott
11/20/2005 8:35:41 AM EDT
[#35]
As said earlier.............China direct.
Now if you what a cheap hammer, or low budget clamps, etc.  go ahead.  I have picked up such things and got what I expected.    But......... I have to wonder about the fools who go there and buy something like a "Micrometer"?  Seriously, if you have a need for something as precise as a micrometer do you really want one for $7.95?????
11/20/2005 9:03:43 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
As said earlier.............China direct.
Now if you what a cheap hammer, or low budget clamps, etc.  go ahead.  I have picked up such things and got what I expected.    But......... I have to wonder about the fools who go there and buy something like a "Micrometer"?  Seriously, if you have a need for something as precise as a micrometer do you really want one for $7.95?????




When I did inspections we calibrated them and thier calipers, they were as good as the Starett and Browne and Sharp
11/20/2005 9:08:04 AM EDT
[#37]
you get what you pay for.

i got 20K worth of Snapon and Mac.

never had a problem.
11/20/2005 9:09:35 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
in my experience, a 50 cent screw driver works just as well as a 5 dollar screw driver.

precision tools are a different story, but most of the stuff i use might as well be cheap chinese crap.




limited amount of experience?
11/20/2005 9:12:13 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
in my experience, a 50 cent screw driver works just as well as a 5 dollar screw driver.

precision tools are a different story, but most of the stuff i use might as well be cheap chinese crap.




limited amount of experience?




Well that 20 year old New Britan one will pry about anything
11/20/2005 9:18:29 AM EDT
[#40]
Ever heard of the guy who could break an anvil?

What they didn't tell you is the anvil was from Harbor Freight!

What a Horrible Fright!
11/20/2005 9:21:12 AM EDT
[#41]
HF is a disposable tool. I broke the 6 inch vise, but so what. It was $50 and I got the job done. Now it's an anvil.
11/20/2005 9:36:05 AM EDT
[#42]
I've had both good and bad luck with the Chinese tools from HF.  Some of the hand tools have broken the first time they were used, others are going strong after much abuse.  I bought one of their small lathes, after cleaning it properly and smoothing the ways it's as nice as you're going to find in something that size that's under $1000.  Bench grinders, angle grinders, belt sanders, are all fine for the home user or the shop as long as they don't mind replaceing them once a year.  Auto shop tools like engine stands, hoists, jacks, transmission jacks, solvent tanks, are also ok.  I own some of all this stuff.  I just bought a screw powered transmission jack the other day for $70.  With it I removed and reinstalled the transmission and transfer case in my Jeep.  No problems, it worked fine.  It will probably be a couple of years before it gets used again.

But here's something I don't understand, and that's people who keep their good tools at home and the junk ones in their truck or car.  If a tool breaks at home I just take another car, or a bicycle or whatever, to the store and buy another one.  Or better yet, call it a day and go inside and have a beer and watch TV.  If my Jeep breaks down in the middle of the desert and the tool I need to fix it breaks I'm fubar'd.  In a lot of the areas I go to my cell phone won't work either.  I only keep the best tools I can get in my vehicle.
11/20/2005 9:46:57 AM EDT
[#43]
I have found that the rule "If you're only going to use it once" is the rule that applies to Harbor freight tools.
11/20/2005 9:50:10 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Disposable tools for short term use.  Keep a few for backup if your good stuff craps out but don't depend on them for industrial use.  I use the $59 chopsaws in my wroughtiron shop.  One of those will last me about a year, cutting light material.  1/2" is about the thickest stuff that I use. I keep the dead ones for parts.



I recently bought one of their chopsaws for a job I'm on.  I'm a cabinetmaker, so this is the first time, and probably last time that I needed to cut metal for a job (aluminum handrail extrusions).

I figure as long as the saw lasts for the job, I'm money ahead.  And with the big Harbor Freight sticker on the guard, I can leave the saw on-site without worrying about it growing legs and walking off.  



Don't use that abraisive wheel chopsaw to cut aluminum. You'd be much better off and safer using a regular circular saw and standard wood blade. We cut 3/8" thick panels with a standard Milwaukee circular saw at work.  A blade will last for a long time if you use cutting wax on it.  The abraisive wheel will clog up with aluminum and explode.  Don't even try it.



+1  A regular chop saw with a triple chip blade is the way to cut aluminum.