[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Hand-To-Hand Self-Defense Tactics (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 11/7/2005 7:07:48 PM EDT
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Reading another thread about breaking someone's neck got me wondering about effective self-defense tactics with just your hands. Assuming you're attacked by an unarmed individual trying to beat the crap out of you, what's an effective method to end the attack quickly. A co-worker of mine said a good method if you can get close enough is to grab the assailant's nose between your thumb and index finger. As you squeeze as hard as you can you haul downward. Supposedly the attacker will drop down very quickly. |
Won't attempting to kick them place you off-balance? |
Not if you .... keep your balance. It hasn't been a factor so far. |
Your forward foot + their closest kneecap = end of most conflicts. Your coworker will get punched to death fucking around grabbing noses. |
Not really. Get a few short sticks (about 4 foot long and at least an inch and a half thick) and lean them against a wall or tree. Practice kinda shadow boxing with the wall or tree and then without much warning or change of posture (called telegraphing) practice snapping them in two with your lead foot. When you can do this reliably you will have a front leg kick sufficient to seriously fuck over a knee cap and will be able to fly it right under the radar of most people who will be watching your hands and face. |
And while it will fuck them up good it will NOT kill them and you aren't shoving nose cartilidge into the brain or boxers would be dropping dead daily. A palm to the nose will fuck up somebodys Sunday however. Of course a palm to the chin will probably do even more damage. Also pretty nasty is a palm to the top of the nose delivered downward. Everything just kinda turns into a bloody mess. |
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+1 on attacking the kneecap. My legs are far powerful than my arms when it comes to fighting. Also remember to use your own knees and elbows as offensive weapons. That can really mess someone up. Grappling once on the ground is a skill lacked by many "streetfighters" If the are standing up they can do alright, but once it goes to the ground they are useless. |
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Kick the balls or knee, hit and break the nose, bite, kick, scratch, gouge, hit. Do everything you can to inflict enough pain so the attacker will stop. Hit the collar bones hard enough and they will snap. If they turn their back you can slap both ears with the palms of your hands- breaks the eardrums and destroys balance. A strike to the front of the throat will crush the larynx and, if the strike is hard enough will kill in about 4-5 minutes from anoxia. Hit any joint presented to disable an attacker. Heel of the hand to the jaw, nose or head is effective. If you hit someone in the head with a closed fist you may break your hand. Your best bet is to take a martial arts class. I took JuJitsu from Jim Brock back in the '70s. It amazed me how much was useful in the copshop. |
The other theory is to fight enough to stop the attack, run away and only fight if the attacker follows. You aren't fighting to kill or disable, just enough for you to get away. If you just stand toe to toe you might get your butt whipped. |
| When I read this title it got me wondering "Hand to Hand". Who says the attacker will not have a weapon, he just might not have it out yet. Remember if you have to go to the ground he could have a knife or any other weapon. You should carry at least 2 knives, one in each pocket. The best way to defend hand to hand is not be there. RUN, if you can't run prepare to fight for you safety. Knives are small and there should be no reason not to carry them unless your state says you can't. |
Armed combat beats the hell out of unarmed combat! Get a carry permit, carry pocket folding knives. Jim |
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The best way to end any fight before it even gets started. Providing you know it's going to start . Is to just step on the person's foot and push him in the chest hard enough to make him fall, But do not take your foot off his . Continue standing on it as he falls backward. He's not getting back up. His ankle is destroyed.This works and it's nasty |
I was just making another one of those jokes where nobody laughs but me. Nothing personal. |
Pushes the nasal cartlidge into the brain through the sinus cavity. To answer the initial question - a good sharp shot in the throat area should do the trick. Man cant breathe -man cant fight. |
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Ok, Internet kung fu huh. In reality, if you don't get a decent amount of training nothing will really help you. Order of priority of targets according to weakness: 1. Eyes - a 30 years old eyes are the same weakness as a 1 year old *** 2. Ears - a strong cupping action to the ears will dis-orienent them and can bust the eardrums 3. Throat - a striking motion with the web of the hand can cause severe breathing problems or even death 4. Groin - not all men will drop when kicked here, many will continue the fight and deal with the pain later *** 5. Knee - works great but you need training to be effective 6. Top of foot - a hard stomping motion will break many of the small bones of the foot *** 7. Chin - striking under it with a punch or palm heel strike 8. Behind the ear - striking 9. Back of the head - striking *** 10. Other targets of opportunity, which require training to be effective 1, 2, and 3 are the weakest and easiest to strike with little or no training, after that the list gets harder to strike and less effective. There are of course many other areas of the body that can be attacked, training is the key, find someplace and train. Carry a gun legally, or pepper spray, a knife, a striking tool on your key chain, a flashlight (aluminum), etc. Prepare yourself to defend yourself. Never start a street fight from an equal and fair footing. Always seek and advantage before the fight starts.
Sorry, this internet rumor is bravo sierra all the way. You may break a nose and get him to bleed a lot but last I looked cartilage is a spongy flexible material. It ain't going into someone’s brain. Breaking someone's neck takes incredible strength, training, and surprise. Maybe 1 in 10,000 men have the strength to do it. I love these Hollywood induced delusions of grandeur - "look ma I'm Chuck" attitudes that are out there. |
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I was out pimpin my bitches when dis one ho gets all up in my shit. I said "Bitch...check yo self Bitch...bitch ho skank bitch...ho bitch...sheeeit bitch". Then the bitch kicks me in da jimmy. I showed da bitch mah pimp hand. Man got to have a pimp hand. Keeps da fools and bitches straight up. All man needs is a pimp hand and some gun fu. I gots to get more ice on mah jimmy.... |
Was Roadhouse on SpikeTV again last night? |
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If you're grappling, here are 3 good targets: (1) Eye. Stiffen your thumb and gouge hard. Squeeze the fuck out of it. (2) Throat. Reach high up under the chin, where you're feeling just the windpipe (no muscle). Get your thumb and fingers behind the windpipe. Squeeze the fuck out of it. (3) Groin. Grab the frank & beans. Dig as deep as you can with your thumb and a couple fingers. Squeeze and twist the fuck out of it. |
OH NO......Not Ashida Kim.......  
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Yeah, lots of people claim this.... Any good smack to the nose will hurt pretty good and make most people tear up. Regarding the "driving the nose into the brain", there's a lot of empty space between the nose and the brain.... |
ETA: Of course, these targets are useless if you pussyfoot around with them. If you're struggling to get them and get punched in the head, you're screwed. If you try this stuff on someone who knows how to fight (not box, not wrestle, but fight), you're probably screwed. |
WTF is your problem?  Everything I know I learned from Master Kim! 
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Hack. I studied with the great Counte Dante and we had "death matches." "Who is the SHOGUN of Harlem?" 
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This tactic is much easyer when wearing combat boots! |
Yep, knees first - if he still comes at you then kick the nuts and last the throat. |
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I don't think that for someone totally untrained there is any "holy grail" of strikes gauranteed to put someone down. Throat/eyes/groin/knee are probably the best shot. But still if he's a strong guy who has at least a modicum of experience do it and then run. Running is probably my favorite technique. Otherwise just overwhelming force. My current favorite hit is the elbow to the cheek. might hurt you a little, but he'll be hurting worse. |
That's fine if your goal is to kill and you are armed. But what if you DON'T want to kill? What if you DON'T happen to be armed? A wise person provides options for himself. The more options you have, the more likely you are to achieve your intended goals. |