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7/11/2005 5:37:50 PM EDT
Veterans' Heritage Firearms Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)

HR 2088 IH


109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2088
To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

May 4, 2005
Mr. GIBBONS (for himself, Mr. OTTER, Mr. KENNEDY of Minnesota, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mr. CANNON, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. GOODE, Mr. KINGSTON, Mr. BRADLEY of New Hampshire, Mr. TERRY, Mr. BAKER, Mr. WHITFIELD, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. BACHUS, Mr. BOOZMAN, Mr. TIBERI, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. DUNCAN, Mr. SHUSTER, Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. MCCOTTER, Mr. HEFLEY, Mr. ISSA, Mr. SIMPSON, Mr. TANCREDO, Mr. SHIMKUS, Mr. PEARCE, Mr. KING of Iowa, Mr. PETERSON of Pennsylvania, Mr. SALAZAR, Mr. KUHL of New York, Mr. HALL, Mr. MOLLOHAN, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. ROGERS of Alabama, Mr. AKIN, Mr. BURGESS, Mr. CRAMER, Mr. CUNNINGHAM, Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland, Mr. ROSS, Mrs. EMERSON, Mr. HUNTER, Mr. TAYLOR of Mississippi, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, Mr. HERGER, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. LEWIS of Kentucky, and Mr. CALVERT) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



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A BILL
To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Veterans' Heritage Firearms Act of 2005'.

SEC. 2. AMNESTY PERIOD FOR VETERANS TO REGISTER QUALIFYING FIREARMS.

(a) Registration- Subject to such regulations as the Attorney General may prescribe, the applicable veteran or a member of such a veteran's family, who owns and possesses a qualifying firearm , may register such firearm in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (described in section 5841 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) during the amnesty period.

(b) Qualifying Firearm -

(1) IN GENERAL- For purposes of this section, the term `qualifying firearm' means any firearm which was acquired--

(A) before October 31, 1968; and

(B) by a veteran, while such veteran was a member of the Armed Forces and was stationed outside the continental United States.

(2) PRESUMPTION OF VALIDITY- With respect to any firearm , in the absence of clear and convincing evidence to the contrary the Attorney General shall accept as true and accurate any affidavit, document, or other evidence submitted by an individual to establish that such firearm meets the requirements of paragraph (1).

(c) Hearings- If the Attorney General determines that any individual may not register a firearm under subsection (a) during the amnesty period, the Attorney General, upon the request of such individual, shall--

(1) provide such individual any evidence on which the Attorney General's decision is based; and

(2) promptly hold a hearing to review such determination.

(d) Limited Immunity-

(1) CRIMINAL LIABILITY UNDER TITLE 18- Any individual who registers a firearm under subsection (a)--

(A) shall be treated, for purposes of subsections (a)(3) and (o) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as having lawfully acquired and possessed the firearm before the date of the enactment of chapter 44 of such title and each of such chapter's provisions; and

(B) shall not be liable under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, for any violation of such chapter which--

(i) is based solely on such individual's ownership, possession, transportation, importation, or alteration of such firearm ; and

(ii) occurred before or concurrent with such registration.

(2) CRIMINAL LIABILITY UNDER INTERNAL REVENUE CODE- Except as provided in paragraph (3), any individual who registers a firearm under subsection (a) shall not be liable under chapter 53 or 75 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 for any violation of such chapters which relates to such firearm and which occurred before or concurrent with such registration.

(3) TRANSFER TAX LIABILITY- Paragraph (2) shall not affect the liability of any individual for any transfer tax imposed under section 5811 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

(4) ATTEMPTS TO REGISTER- In the case of an applicable veteran or a member of such a veteran's family who attempts to register a qualifying firearm in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record at a time other than during the amnesty period, paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) shall apply with respect to such individual if such individual surrenders such firearm to a law enforcement agency not later than 30 days after notification by the Attorney General of potential criminal liability for continued possession of the firearm .

(e) Forfeiture- Any firearm registered under subsection (a) shall not be subject to seizure or forfeiture under chapter 53 or 75 of the Internal Revenue Code or chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, for any violation of such chapters which relates to such firearm and which occurred before or concurrent with such registration.

(f) Notice; Forms; Mailbox Rule-

(1) NOTICE OF AMNESTY PERIOD- The Attorney General shall provide clear printed notices providing information regarding the amnesty period and registering a firearm during such period. To the extent feasible, the Attorney General shall ensure that such notices are posted in post offices, law enforcement buildings, buildings of the Department of Veterans Affairs, and in the businesses of licensed firearms dealers.

(2) FORMS- The Attorney General shall make available any forms necessary for registering a firearm in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. To the extent feasible, the Attorney General shall make such forms available in the locations referred to in paragraph (1) and through the website for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

(3) MAILBOX RULE- For purposes of this section, the Attorney General shall treat any form that is postmarked during the amnesty period as received during the amnesty period.

(g) Definitions- For purposes of this section:

(1) AMNESTY PERIOD- The term `amnesty period' means the 90-day period beginning on the date that is 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(2) FIREARM - The term `firearm' has the meaning given such term in section 5845 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, except that such term does not include--

(A) any device described in subsection (f)(1) of such section; or

(B) any combination of parts--

(i) designed or intended for use in converting any device into a device described in subparagraph (A); or

(ii) from which a device described in subparagraph (A) may be readily assembled.

(3) APPLICABLE VETERAN- With respect to any firearm , the term `applicable veteran' means the veteran described in subsection (b)(1)(B).

(4) VETERAN- The term `veteran' has the meaning given such term in section 101(2) of title 38, United States Code.

(5) FAMILY- The term `family' means, with respect to a veteran, the grandparents of such veteran, the grandparents of such veteran's spouse, the lineal descendants of such grandparents, and any spouse of such a lineal descendant. A spouse of an individual who is legally separated from such individual under a decree of divorce or separate maintenance shall be treated as such individual's spouse for purposes of this paragraph. Individuals related by the half blood or by legal adoption shall be treated as if they were related by the whole blood for purposes of this paragraph.

(6) CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES- The term `continental United States' means the several States and the District of Columbia, but does not include Alaska or Hawaii.

SEC. 3. TRANSFER OF FIREARMS TO MUSEUMS.

(a) Transfer of Forfeited Firearms to Museums-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Attorney General shall transfer each firearm which has been forfeited to the United States to the first qualified museum that submits a request for such firearm in such form and manner as the Attorney General may specify.

(2) DESTRUCTION OF FORFEITED FIREARMS PROHIBITED- The Attorney General shall not destroy any firearm which has been forfeited to the United States until the end of the 5-year period beginning on the date of such forfeiture.

(3) CATALOGUE OF FIREARMS- With respect to each firearm which is available to be transferred to a museum under paragraph (1), the Attorney General shall, not later than 60 days after the forfeiture of such firearm , publish information which identifies such firearm (including a picture) on the web page of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Such information shall be available to the public without cost and without restriction.

(4) REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS- Any firearm transferred under paragraph (1) to a qualified museum shall be registered to the transferee in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (described in section 5841 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986).

(5) FIREARM - For purposes of this subsection, the term `firearm' means any firearm (as defined in section 2(g)(2)) which is treated as a curio or relic under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code.

(6) QUALIFIED MUSEUM- For purposes of this subsection, the term `qualified museum' means--

(A) any museum owned or operated by a unit of Federal, State, or local government; and

(B) any museum which--

(i) is open to the public;

(ii) is incorporated as not-for-profit corporation under applicable state law;

(iii) may possess a firearm in the collection of the museum under the laws of the State in which the collection of the museum is displayed;

(iv) holds a license under chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, as a collector of curios or relics; and

(v) certifies to the Attorney General that--

(I) the museum is not engaged in the trade or business of buying or selling firearms,

(II) with respect to the transfer of any firearm under paragraph (1), the museum is not requesting the transfer of such firearm for purpose of sale, and

(III) the museum shall, not later than 90 days after the date on which such museum ceases operations, file an application pursuant to chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to transfer any machinegun transferred to the museum under paragraph (1) to an entity or person who may lawfully possess such machinegun under section 922(o) of title 18, United States Code, or abandon such machinegun to Federal, State, or local law enforcement authorities.

(b) Transfer of Machineguns to Museums- Section 922(o)(2) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in subparagraph (A), by striking `or' at the end;

(2) by redesignating subparagraph (B) as subparagraph (C); and

(3) by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraph:

`(B) a transfer to or by, or possession by, a museum which is open to the public and incorporated as a not-for-profit corporation under applicable State law; or'.

7/11/2005 5:38:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Instead of amnesty, they should just repeal the 1986 law.
7/11/2005 5:39:29 PM EDT
[#2]
just an excuse to flush out unknown MG's and harass old veterans.
7/11/2005 5:39:42 PM EDT
[#3]
1986 law does not cover machineguns brought back from foreign wars.

Remeber it was the 1968 GCA that banned the import of foreign machine guns.

NOT THE 1986 BAN!
7/11/2005 5:58:02 PM EDT
[#4]
I think it's a step in the right direction.   Anyone who has a qualified MG or other unregistered NFA weapon that is qualified,  would be able to now take it out of the cellar and actually be able to admit
to owning it and be able to use it,  and to transfer it or pass it on to his family.    It no longer would
be an automatic prison sentence.

You can't tell me there's something WRONG with that, can you?


Granted,  the '86 ban sucks,  the 'NFA of '68 sucks ass,  and the GCA of '34 is an absolute horror
to the rights of the citizens,  but I don't think we can get those repealed.    In that light,  ANY
amnesty registration would be a good thing.

Personally,  if I were the one to write the bill,  it would propose a complete and totall, unrestricted,
fully "open door" amnestry registration with no limits or restrictions.    You can convert anything
you want or register anything you want as an NFA item or MG as long as you didn't obtain it by
a criminal act,  no matter who you are, and you'd have a full year to do it.    

But I'm a radical on gun rights, too.  


CJ

7/11/2005 5:59:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Who said this bill can't be amended for the BETTER when and if it is brought up?

7/11/2005 6:03:27 PM EDT
[#6]
The price of Sten kits would multiply over night.  $40 today, $400 the next day.
7/11/2005 6:08:39 PM EDT
[#7]
To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record,and for other purposes.

Help me out here, did Congress just admit to the existance of a a National Firearms Registration.
I thought it was illegal for the Federal Government to compile a database of firearm serial numbers.
Am I misunderstanding something here?

Red Herring?

HS1

7/11/2005 6:09:37 PM EDT
[#8]
It's illegal for NON NFA guns.

It's legal for NFA guns because of tax law.

The whole NFA is based on tax law.

Hence they have to have records of you paying your tax on yiur guns
7/11/2005 6:10:42 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Instead of amnesty, they should just repeal the 1986 law.



What he said.
7/11/2005 6:23:20 PM EDT
[#10]
They should just have a general amnesty.




Vulcan94
7/11/2005 6:27:35 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Instead of amnesty, they should just repeal the 1986 law.



What he said.



+1 but im not gona hold my breath. Look at what kind of fight libs put up over the AWB sunsetting, and that didnt really even do anything.
7/11/2005 6:28:22 PM EDT
[#12]
While I am well known to lack faith in much of what the gov't does, I am optimistic that we could get some of this overturned.

68 GCA
86 MG ban

These are both doable with a serious effort.
It would take work and a PR campaign but with good leadership and serious effort both could be overturned.

The 34 NFA is another matter. I don't see us ever walking into a gunshop and walking out with a MG. I do think we can make the process better and more accessible, maybe even get some of the other stuff off the NFA such as SBRs, AOWs.
7/11/2005 6:29:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  
7/11/2005 6:39:55 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Instead of amnesty, they should just repeal the 1986 law.



What he said.



+1 but im not gona hold my breath. Look at what kind of fight libs put up over the AWB sunsetting, and that didnt really even do anything.



What fight?
I thought it more a pathetic whimper.
The media whined about it for awhile but that was about it and nobody else really gave a shit.

Maybe we need some diversionary tactics. Start pushing to end abortion, push hard for a move on a Marriage Amendment, cut Welfare benefits. Get the Socialist 5th Column otherwise occupied and then slip a few things through. Heheh.
We all know that while they like screwing the rights we hold dear into the ground, destroying our institutions and thereafter our country, that what they really hold dear is the right to murder their children and screw each other in the ass. Their leadership would have a hard time getting anyone to worry about guns with all of that going on.

7/11/2005 6:42:06 PM EDT
[#15]
The Secretary of the Treasury has the power to implement an amnesty registration any time he/she chooses fit with the only restriction being the amnesty period cannot last more than 90 days (at a time).
7/11/2005 6:42:49 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  



That's why it should be a general amnesty.




Vulcan94
7/11/2005 6:46:43 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  



I'd go out and get as many class 3 forms as I could and get them all written off on by the local CLEO, for a bunch of Kalashnikovs, ARs, etc. And buy that M240 that was for sale at Impact guns. Can't be worth 175k after that happens.

ben
7/11/2005 6:49:39 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  





"My, uh, grandfather was given these eight Sten guns from a, uh,  British Royal Marine he met in Korea. The USMC let him keep these 5 M2 carbines, the 10 1919's, and that lone M2 .50 cal. Nice guys."
7/11/2005 6:50:02 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  



I'd go out and get as many class 3 forms as I could and get them all written off on by the local CLEO, for a bunch of Kalashnikovs, ARs, etc. And buy that M240 that was for sale at Impact guns. Can't be worth 175k after that happens.

ben



The proposed bill would not cover this kind of thing.  Also, transferable M240's are very rare and would not change too much due to an amnesty aimed mainly at WWII firearms.
7/11/2005 6:52:30 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  


I wonder if the people who found a thomson in their wall could get it back?
7/11/2005 7:02:41 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Start convert'in yer guns over, boys!   Hot Damn!


Aw crap, doesn't apply to most of us.  



I'd go out and get as many class 3 forms as I could and get them all written off on by the local CLEO, for a bunch of Kalashnikovs, ARs, etc. And buy that M240 that was for sale at Impact guns. Can't be worth 175k after that happens.

ben



The proposed bill would not cover this kind of thing.  Also, transferable M240's are very rare and would not change too much due to an amnesty aimed mainly at WWII firearms.



My words above were only if it actually did apply to the stuff above.

Ben