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AR15.COM
7/10/2005 9:02:06 PM EDT


Could a computer coding job paying just $15 per hour signal something's wrong with the tech world?

That relatively measly amount is what's promised in an ad for a "ASP.NET Programmer" on the America's Job Bank site. The job, which calls for "at least 1 year's experience either in school, at work, or a combination of the two," is being offered by employment services company AppleOne, according to the ad.

$15 per hour for a computer programmer makes the position fall below the 10th percentile for the programming occupation both nationally and in California, where the job is said to be located. It's less than what some security guards make.

And it has Kim Berry, president of the Programmers Guild advocacy group, steamed about the way domestic techies have to compete with a greater number of foreign workers. A $15-per-hour coding gig doesn't jibe with the recent expansion of the H-1B guest worker visa program, Berry argued in an email Thursday.

"(Department of Labor) and Congress--under the law of supply and demand, aren't wages supposed to go up when there is a shortage?" Berry wrote. "And if there is not a shortage, why did you recently increase the H-1B quota by another 20,000 foreign workers per year?"

To be fair, one defense of H-1B visas is not linked directly to a shortage of workers. Harris Miller, president of the Information Technology Association of America, has argued that the visas give U.S. companies important access to international talent as they compete globally.

Even so, the ad's wage does make one wonder if guest worker visas and the rise of offshoring are undermining U.S. tech careers--and by extension threatening the country's tech leadership.

Posted by Ed Frauenheim



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Man, that's like working at Home Depot.
7/10/2005 9:11:56 PM EDT
[#1]
The market pays what the market pays.. it's just an adjustment.

Five years ago, people with basic HTML skills were making 100K a year, as well.. that ain't right either.
7/10/2005 9:12:45 PM EDT
[#2]
It's less than what some security guards make.

That's me!  Take that, computer dorks.    
7/10/2005 9:14:37 PM EDT
[#3]
More than I make. People tell me to "suck it up."
7/10/2005 9:14:45 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
It's less than what some security guards copsmake.

That's me!  Take that, computer dorks.    


Fixed it for you
7/10/2005 9:18:29 PM EDT
[#5]
My brother was making $12 at Home Depot. And he had a hell of a lot less responsibility.

Even Goatboy is worth more than $15 an hour.

Goatboy: You’re an ASP.NET guy, right?
7/10/2005 9:19:45 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
More than I make. People tell me to "suck it up."



+1. $15/hr is twice the rate I'm getting. Life's tough for some people
7/10/2005 9:24:04 PM EDT
[#7]
That's a stupid article.  I could go post a job opening right now asking for "Brain surgeon needed - $20/hr".  And I would be laughed out of town, just like these idiots should be.

The fact is, nobody will apply for the job because they can make $50+/hr easily elsewhere.  And if someone would work for that price, "you get what you pay for" comes to mind.  

7/10/2005 9:24:19 PM EDT
[#8]
appleone is a temp agency