[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Prison Rape (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 7/9/2005 2:58:10 AM EDT
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I don't think anybody "approves" of it. It would be very nice to know that men like the fuckhead who raped and killed that little girl in Florida ARE getting severly ass-raped everyday. Hopefully until they die. It would be a just punishment for monsters like him.  Oh by the way........ 
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Not in the least. You see, if you aren't a criminal scumbag, you're not going to be in prison. A few people along the way may get wrongfully imprisoned, but the number is very few. And the reason most of them were convicted is because they had a life history of being scumbags, therefore I view these situations as simply belated justice. Prison also was never suppose to be pleasant. If getting fucked in the ass is not a desire of your's, then make sure you keep your life on track. If not, be prepared for prison life and all that goes along with it. BTW, I see your argument as typical liberal, bleeding heart bullshit. You are using the same argument the left uses against Gitmo. You make it sound as if these people are all innocent, poor, hapless people who are somehow wronged by the system. These people sitting in prisons today are CRIMINALS. Many of them are scum. The same goes for those detained in Gitmo. I assure you that if you live your life the right way, don't live a life of crime or associate with people who are shit, you aren't going to end up in prison. Your chances of getting hit by lightning are much higher.And if these people in Gitmo don't engage in acts or terror or flock with those who do, they'd be sitting back in A-Stan right now enjoying all of that new freedom. It's that simple. And for the handful of innocent folks who go to prison for crimes they didn't commit, bless them. For they are "collateral damage". Nothing is 100% foolproof. Can't be. Never has been. But to suggest that we turn loose 50,000 people who are guilty of crimes (some very bad crimes) just to spare 1 who isn't is stupid. It's equally stupid to suggest we stop performing surgeries that save 1000 lives because 1 life per 1000 may be lost. It's stupid to suggest we avoid war because we occasionally kill an innocent. And there is no way to prevent such things from happening anyway. You can't have a guard holding each inmate's hand day and night. Prison is not a daycare. Shit happens. The world isn't perfect nor can it be. If it was, there'd be no need for prisons. So get over the foolish thought that it can be perfect and come on over to reality. -CH |
. If it bothers you that badly start by writting your congress person.
That's just it. This is why liberals are wrong so much of the time. You see, they really believe that the world as a whole is good. And they believe that they can control what they view as bad. Look at gun control and global warming as two prime examples. They really believe we can stop crime if we ban guns. They also believe and are arrogant enough to think that we humans are solely to blame for global warming (if it even exists, which is open to debate to start with) and worse, that WE can stop it. They live in a fantasy world. They don't move from Point A to Point B like logical people. Their thought process must resemble something like dyslexia. Their rationale and thinking (if you can call what they do "rational thought") is a disaster. |
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I have posted more times than I can count that I feel rape and sexual abuse ought to be punishible by death. One of the reasons our prison system fails is because of the PC bullshit politics involved in funding them and running them. In another thread about running a prison, I gave a long winded idea about running a prison basically through the application of sever hard labor with little if any respite for prisoners. Want to solve the rape problem? How about the violence problem? I got any easy solution that will never be implemented by the weak politicians that run prisons... If a convict rapes or murders another inmate, gunshot to the head the following morning at dawn...out in the yard where everyone else can see it. Pretty simple system, solves the problem. My issue with prisons is that they do nothing to punish the people in them. The only real punishment is the violence imparted by fellow inmates. I would change that. The prison would dish out the punishment, and the prisoners would be the equivelannt of modern day slaves. Insolence would be met with extreme punishment up to and including immediate execution. Im not interested in rehabilitation...want to learn useful skills, should have gone to fucking school and learned them...prison isnt college. All I want to see is prisoners conditioned to respond to the rules...and the punishments for breaking the rules would be harsh. Frankly, I think its sick that the rape and violence is permitted to continue in our prisons. If the punishment fit the crime, we wouldnt have this issue. (specifically because the kind of people that perpatrated these types of acts, on the outside or inside, would be executed) Oh, regarding the death penalty.....no long stays on death row in my prison..it should be like a line at the grocery store...as soon as you are pronounced guilty you get on line...someone will be at the front of the line 'checking you out' - might take a few minutes, but that will give people enough time to say a few prayers. |
All it takes is for YOU to be driving in your neighborhood distracted by talking (arguing?)on your cell phone and some little kid darts out in front of you....... I try to stay very legal and hope to God i never go to prison. I agree with you,it's fucking bullshit and should be stopped!!!!
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This makes tremendous sense as well. If the inmates are still engaging in such violent crime as rape after being locked up, then that should demonstrate that their are not capable of being "rehibilitated". Therefore they should be offed on the spot. The only people who should be in prisons are those who have some capacity to change for the better in the first place. If they continue their crime even after being locked up, kill the bastards. That will solve the rape issue. And that will improve the chances of getting rid of the most scummy elements that are also most likely to become offenders when they leave prison. These people have one thing in common: They are pieces of shit before they are locked up, they are pieces of shit when they are locked up and they'll be pieces of shit after they are released. Kill them and be done with them! Perhaps the remaining inmates will then actually be able to lead productive lives when they leave prison. The other bastards will be fertilizer. |
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It could happen to you. I have a friend that was raped in prison. He heard his wife scream in the night, woke up and found a creep coming at Him with a pick handle. He shot the SOB. That part was OK, but then, He panicked, and shot the perp again, while the perp was on the floor. He drew a jury of urban liberals, and a 10 year sentence. He never deserved prison, for a minute. But I think we have to look at the underlying reason why people joke (hope?) that people sent to prison get raped. The reason is that there is a general feeling that people who commit heinous crimes have a nasty habit of getting off light in terms of punishment handed down by the courts, so the hope is that there is some other factor that makes the punishment fit the crime. This is pretty irrational, however; is there any reason to think that rapists are going to give extra punishment to the people who deserve it? Counting on the scum you despise the most to dispense "extra justice" in a fair and rational way is self-evidently a bad "system." I believe that prison rapists should be treated like rapists in the outside world should be (but aren't) treated, i.e. tried and promptly executed if found guilty. But since people raping children don't get executed, the odds that prison rapists will get dealt with in any meaningful manner seems small. We need to stop putting people in prison for consensual crimes and reserve prisons for true criminals. I've never heard a judge actually sentence someone convicted of buying a bag of weed (e.g.), to anal rape and death by AIDs, have you? A prison culture that accepts rape and other unacceptable activity in prison will spill out onto the streets when the inmates are let out. And if they aren't ever going to be let out, they might as well just be executed because as long as my tax dollars go to support them, they damn well better be getting rehabilitated or killed off. |
You lost me there. I doubt any innocent man has ever been convicted. He may have been innocent of the incident for which charged, but got away with the same crime 100 times prior. If Jose the gang banger got away with 10 murders, then gets wrongly convicted for one he didnt do, he's not innocent. |
| I work in a prison. It really depends where your at but I know in our jail its not really that common. Im not saying that it doesnt happen but not that often. Most of the times they can get laid for some smokes or ramen soup or something. (If you have ever seen those people with there pants dropped down past there ass, this started in prison for people signaling they need commisary food and will give up ass for it). Another problem is alot of the people that have had sexual act done to them are to embarrased to tell on the person. |
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As an example of what I am talking about: Catholic nuns who practice civil disobedience in order to express their sincere opposition to nuclear weapons. I do not share their beliefs...but they certainly do not deserve to be raped in prison if they serve out their sentence. Another example: bloggers that are openly defying McCain-Feingold and posting thier thoughts on their webpages. Technically, they are breaking Federal law (a very bad law, as a matter of fact). If any one of these people has to do a day in jail they do not deserve to be raped. My point is, rape is never justified. Not even for "real" criminals. The cavalier attitude expressed by many members of law enforcement is directly contributing to the perception that rape is accepted in prison. Am I advocating a super-cushy prison system where no one ever gets their feelings hurt? No, I understand that nothing is perfect. Just like in society outside of prison I understand that we will never have a crime-free society and therefore we should instead seek to minimize crime. The right to keep and bear arms is a big part of the effort to minimize crime. Those that believe that a perfect crime-free society can exist seek to eliminate guns. Inside prison, citizens' rights to keep and bear arms are justly repressed. That means that we, as a society, must bear the responsibility for the prisoners' protection. Can we end all prison assaults? No, but we should seek to minimize it. Not conveying an attitude that accepts prison rape (ie. "Bubba jokes") is a big part of that. As for the pants hanging down thing, urban legend. www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp |
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Hey Mall-Buster, Why are you so worried about criminals asses? And as for clowns, you a John Wayne Gacy fan? I don't believe your story about your friend shooting an intruder and getting 10 years, show us a link to the story if it is true? I think your time would be better spent protecting your OWN ass and not the crim's. Personally, you are way too into ass crimes if you know what I mean, focus on womens ass, its a lot better and the way god intended us to be. Rape by anyone is a crime, stupidity is not one yet..... |
I guess you're pro man-rape. Sad. |
Come on tell us the truth............ It was really you! 
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This reinforces a point I tried to make earlier. I cannot name a single individual I ever met who went to prison that didn't deserve to be there. Now, let's examine why a person gets sent to prison. A. The evidence against them is overwhelming that they are guilty B. The evidence isn't quite as overwhelming as in option A, but when viewed against their past history, they look like dogshit anyway, making the jury much less reluctant to vote not guilty. I truly can't name any individual I know who ever went to prison who didn't deserve to be there. Many could have gone many times over. And as AR15Fan pointed out, even if not guilty of the particular crime they are charged with, they are likely guilty of 10 others they were never charged with. This is why it's important to be careful WHO you associate with and what you do. You don't have to pull off bank robberies or sell drugs to be a high risk. If you hang out with these people, you are putting yourself in a position for something bad to happen...whether it's getting arrested or being killed simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you are someone who has no record, a good name, etc, you are far less likely to be convicted by a jury than someone with a criminal record and a bad reputation. In fact, you'd also be less likely to ever be viewed as a suspect in the first place. Untrue for those with tarnished reps however. Know what I mean? If you associate with good, honest people, aren't a criminal and don't deal with criminals, you are likely to be ok. But roll around in shit and chances are, sooner or later, you will get shit on you. |
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You like homos, I take it. The condoms that get stuck and eventually come out in stools are what's clogging your john? |
| If it wasn't for the prison rape factor,I wouldn't be scared to go to prison.The only thing keeping me from comitting multiple felonies is the threat of being anally raped by a group of large and angry black men in "the yard" or "the showers" while the guards take bets on how long until my ass starts bleeding and my lower intestin falls out. |
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I think some of us are missing Mall-Security's point. There are people in prison that don't belong there. All of us as gun owners face a chance at three sheets and eats at the local grey bar hotel. I don't think there is a week go by that there isn't a post about someone being wrongfully arrested for some crime they didn't commit. Have fun all. |