[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Condoleeza Rice (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/12/2005 12:49:50 AM EDT
OK, for the record, I think Condi is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That woman is phenomenal. If I could have one wish granted, she'd be my US President for 8 years. www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html |
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So racist they would vote for Hitlery over Condi or stay home? Don't think so. The Dems would feel they must run her against Condi. After all they are the "true" party for women. It would be a bigger slam-dance for the Republicans than Reagan VS mondale IMO |
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Let's be honest if they really want a female president this is the term to push for it. Also let's face it if Hitlary ran against any man then every liberal woman that could physically get to a voting booth to vote for her would no matter what. Now if Condi ran against her every black man and woman would break their legs to get in the voting booth for her taking half of Hitlery's female voters away from her. Basically if Hitlary runs I see her getting elected as a novelty because she (supposedly) is a woman. If Condi runs she will get 90% plus of the black vote to include both sexes and still have republican views. If Hitlary runs Condi has to run against her or we might as well teach guy on guy sex-ed in schools, require everyone to have at least 9 peircings and listen to goth music, and outlaw traditional marrige And ban guns, bows, knives, glass, forks, and slingshots for the children. 
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 condi rocks...i'd take her over either of the clintons |
If a black american actually has the chance to vote for a black president they will. If a woman actually has a chance to vote for a woman president they will. It is human nature. Kind of like an impulse buy at the store. I am not saying it would stay that way forever because I am a white male and I would vote for Condi but it would be a first time chance for them to identify with their president on that level. |
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www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/11/rice.concert.ap/index.html U.S. Rice takes stage to help ailing singer Saturday, June 11, 2005 Posted: 11:56 PM EDT (0356 GMT) story.rice.concert.2.ap.jpg Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Charity Sunshine speak with well wishers after their performance at the Kennedy Center on Saturday. WASHINGTON (AP) -- A musician long before she became an academic and then a world-famous diplomat, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice took to the Kennedy Center concert stage Saturday to accompany a young soprano battling an often-fatal disease. Rice's rare and unpublicized appearance at the piano marked a striking departure from her routine as America's No. 1 diplomat. A pianist from the age of 3 she played a half-dozen selections to accompany Charity Sunshine, a 21-year-old singer who was diagnosed with pulmonary hypertension a little more than a year ago. The soprano is a granddaughter of Rep. Tom Lantos, D-California, and his wife Annette, who Rice has known for years. The Pulmonary Hypertension Association, formed in 1990, presented the concert to draw attention to the disease from which more than 100,000 people are known to suffer. Largely unknown in the United States until about 10 years ago, it has no known cause or cure, but genetic studies and a search for treatment are under way. Sunshine has persisted in her career and performed with orchestras in Hungary, her grandparents' home before the Holocaust, Denmark and the United States. On Saturday, in a concert entitled, "An Evening of Music, Friendship and Awareness" and hosted by Lantos, she drew the secretary of state to play selections by Verdi, Mozart and Jerome Kern. Eileen Cornett, of the Peabody Conservatory in Baltimore, Maryland, accompanied Sunshine on a half-dozen other pieces. Lantos introduced Rice as "a warm friend" and said the concert was her idea, describing how her eyes filled with tears as he told him about his granddaughter's illness. "We have to do something about this and enhance public consciousness," he quoted Rice as saying. "Let's have a concert and I will accompany her at the piano." Rice, whose first name is a variation on the Italian musical term "con dolcezza," which is a direction to play with sweetness, learned to read music at the age of 3. As a child she performed, won piano competitions and planned a career as a concert pianist. But she switched her field of interest to international relations in her junior year at the University of Colorado and went on to be provost at Stanford University, then President Bush's assistant for national security, and now secretary of state. Despite her busy schedule, Rice finds time to enjoy classical music and plays occasionally and privately with friends in a string quartet. In February, on a trip to Europe, she visited a Parisian music school, Conservatoire Hector Berlioz, after a session with French political elite. Rice tapped her toes to keep time as a music teacher led a group of students age 7 to 9 through their scales. She told the youngsters, "It takes a lot of work to learn to read music. You have to practice and practice and practice." Among those in the Kennedy Center audience were U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, eight ambasssadors to the United States, Librarian of Congress James Billington, National Institutes of Health director Elias Zerhouni and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith. Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. |
You know, the more I get to "know" her, the more I love her. And she will get my vote anytime she wants it. |
So you hate her because she is black and played piano with a sick girl? |
I hope they checked the ticket sales monies carefully afterwards to make sure that fuck stick didn't steal any of it. |
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Don't agree with her abortion views.And not sure what all her views really are (and that holds for most politicians-what they say/what they BELIEVE (if ANYTHING) are often two different things. Don't believe she'd get overwhelming black support either-much like Justice Thomas,she'unfairly seen as an Uncle Tom by many blacks.That's what I love-the Dems are the party of tolerance and diversity,UNLESS you do not adhere to their narrow views.They KNOW what the right things to think are-we're just not smart enough to realise that they kinow what's best for all of us.Dave |
I guess, I missed it, when did he say he hated her? |
| I am as white anglo saxon protestant as they come and I will gladly vote for her given the chance. In my mind, it isn't about gender or race when it comes to running our country. It is about wisdom, intelligence and determination. Condi has shown me that she has all three. |
I was talking about badhand1 and quoting the article so I quoted it from a previous post. Sorry for the confusion. |
Sorry but you're wrong. There's plenty of liberal women (including my wife), who would NOT vote for Hitlary. She is really despised by alot of Democrats. Don't believe the hype. |
We would still be see the headline: "Women flock to polls". |
Bulldog, you are right about that. Go over to DUh and read some threads about Hillary. She is despised by many on the far left. Many see her as a "sell out" and a wolf in sheep's clothing. |
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The media would go nuts over Hillary, thats for sure. I like Condi and would gladly vote for her, I just wish they would be tougher on immigration. If they run somebody like Frist against Hillary, the republicans are screwed. I don't even want to think about McCain but he could beat Hillary. I don't know about Blacks throwing all their support at Condi, she would probably get a higher percentage of their vote than a white republican male. At work the guys listen to a Black Hip-Hop station sometimes and the DJ's love making fun of Rice and Powell nonstop, a lot of very negative stuff, so it wouldn't be a slam dunk as some suggested. |
I have a big problem considering Dr. Rice as a potential Presidential candidate. Don't get me wrong, I like her. I like her a lot. I think she could be one of the most conservative presidents in history and could do great things but...... She has never been married and has never had children  As someone who has been married for many years and a father, I'm sorry, there is a LONG list of life changing experiences that a President Rice has never experienced nor can relate to. Politically, this is a huge problem for her in a general election. It won't matter to some that Hillary Rodam Clinton went to the "Peggy Bundy" school of wife and mothering, she still has had children. |
She also has a LONG list of life changing experiences *because* she isn't married and doesn't have kids. |
+1. I know, and have seen, parents that I wouldn't trust to cut my grass. And I know life long single folks that I'd trust with my life. The other thing so many people seem to forget is that presidents have this large group of people working for them whose job it is to be experts in there respective fields. The president can't be good at everything. A good President, to me, would be someone that is able to choose good cabinet members, and let them do their jobs. |
Hillary's having a kid does nothing to change my opinion that she is a biatch, and Condi's not having kids is not a hge factor in my book either. |
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I think many do not appreciate the mobilization which would occur in the republican party if Rice were nominated. It would be a chance for us to drive a stake once and for all into the false notion the democrats are the 'minority" party. 40 % of hispanics voted for Bush last time around, and you better believe the dems are pissing their pants about it. Personally, I would double or triple my contributions to the RNC and the Presidential fund if she were nominated. If you believe repubs are all redneck bigots who would not vote for a black woman, well, you're just buying into the lib media spin. Condi would generate a huge grassroots movement on the right, I have no doubt, and that is where elections are won. Even if we could only peel of 25 to 30% of the black vote, the democrat party would be TOAST. They might never recover after a bunch of blacks pulled the lever for a republican and the world did not end as a result. |
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+1. There is a large percentage of the "popular black culture" (NAACP, BET "public" ie talking head type "black community leaders" and groups) that bemoan/belittle Rice & Powell as "House N*****s" to Bush - not my words - heard this on a TV "news" /interview program - assisting the white power elite in keeping the blacks down and generally unrepresentative of the "average black person". Unfortunately, the stereotypical "average black" as described by Sharpton, Jackson (the Rev., not the "King of Pop"  ), Mfume et al, is one that is uneducated, uninspired, and in need of additional considerations like hiring quotas, school admissions quotas, and public aid monies (scholarships, WIC, etc) due to their existence, and continued subjugation by The Man®. Of course, all negotiations for such things must go through Sharpton, Jackson, & Mfume ... just coincidental that continued subjugation of their fellow black americans (as well as unswerving allegiance to the Democratic Party) increases / maintains their power base... Kinda makes you wonder who the real "house N" is  Having the ability to break through the education and economic barriers (not getting into a debate of real v. perceived v. artificial) that are in place without the "assistance" provided by Jackson et al makes you a traitor to your own kind... especially when you start voting republican... 
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IIRC, Harry Belafonte was the one who started that rhetoric, against Colin Powell. A search throughTaranto's column on OpinionJournal.com will turn up the reference, back in 2001.
What, you want her to tell you "Oh, how cute, it looks a little like a man's penis, only smaller"? 
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I don't see Condi's lack of parenting experience as being a huge issue. Anyone who teaches Piano to 9 year olds has the patience of a Saint and more nurturing ability than most people ever get. I'd be happy to vote for her, but I think she could only be electable if running against Hillary. America isn't ready for a female President. Here's what She has going for her IMO: Not part of the good old boy club, not as "owed" and "owned" as most politicians. She's well rounded and obviously into greater pursuits than the D.C. cocktail club scene She's well squared away on the gun issue When she speaks it's Military-style-matter-of-fact.. When was the last time you heard a politician say "booh" and not get the feeling you were being patronized, pandered to, or about to get a dry ass-fucking? She could shake some shit up in DC..... I think she'll get more votes from women than Hillary, hands down-but will the make vote negate that? As for the blacks who are ignorant enough to label her a house-n****r-whatever, I wouldn't worry.. People who are that ignorant tend to never make it to a voting booth. Agreed on her being the Dems worst cold-sweat nightmare. They have ZERO chance if she runs. Dave |