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6/2/2005 9:48:44 PM EDT
I bought two sticks of 512mb of PC3200 DDR DIMM for my new computer I built.

My Mobo is a socket 754 (Athlon 64). I have the correct type of RAM.

But with both sticks installed, the computer just beeps once every three seconds or so with nothing on the screen once I push the power button.

But if I use one stick, it works fine. It's not that one stick is bad, because they both work, just not together.

Anyone know WTF I can do?
6/2/2005 9:50:10 PM EDT
[#1]
You need to isolate the problem using the "process of elimination" or give us more info on what does and doesn't work.
6/2/2005 9:52:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Do you have 4 slots for the ram?

If so then install it in slots 1 and 3 and it should work.

Sgat1r5
6/2/2005 9:52:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Hmm try playing around with the slots its plugged into.

Some Motherboards have a dislike for using ram in say slots 1 and 3...  instead of 1 nad 2... and some of these same Motherboards number there slots 1,3,2,4 becuase they hate you.
6/2/2005 9:53:44 PM EDT
[#4]
hrmm

what mobo model?

is it too much ram for your motherboard? is the ram seated properly?

if it is award bios.. that beep is unknown code.


this is funny.. just 20 min ago i put in a second stick of 512mb pc3200 ram... but i only have 2 slots.
6/2/2005 9:55:36 PM EDT
[#5]
The KV-80 provides 2 DIMM sockets using 184-pin DDR with a total capacity of up to 2GB using DDR400.


Do you have DDR400?


ETA: Are you sure that they are in all of the way and did you have old memory in there?
6/2/2005 9:56:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Need more info..What motherboard? How many RAM slots? What slots are you putting them into?
6/2/2005 9:57:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
hrmm

what mobo model?

is it too much ram for your motherboard? is the ram seated properly?

if it is award bios.. that beep is unknown code.


this is funny.. just 20 min ago i put in a second stick of 512mb pc3200 ram... but i only have 2 slots.

Quoted:
Need more info..What motherboard? How many RAM slots? What slots are you putting them into?


Read the first post!!!!!!!!!!!! and GOOGLE.
6/2/2005 9:58:15 PM EDT
[#8]
Hmm, I was going to suggest checking beep codes and make sure your RAM is seated.  But that doesn't seem like the problem.  I have been through similar experiences and you just kind have to use the process of elimination.  
6/2/2005 9:59:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Hmm try playing around with the slots its plugged into.

Some Motherboards have a dislike for using ram in say slots 1 and 3...  instead of 1 nad 2... and some of these same Motherboards number there slots 1,3,2,4 becuase they hate you.


Consult your manual for optimum placement of ram in the slots. Check the dual channel setting in the BIOS the memory may not be able to handle dual channel. Check the memory timing settings to make sure they match up with the memory.

Try each stick separately... you done that.

The memory controller for the Athlon 64 is on the chip and not on the motherboard...
6/2/2005 10:00:34 PM EDT
[#10]
It'a a Gigabyte Technologies K8 Triton. It has 3 slots.

It doesn't matter where I seat them, they don't work, 1 and 2, 1 and 3, 2 and 3, nothing works. It only works with one stick.

You need to isolate the problem using the "process of elimination" or give us more info on what does and doesn't work.


I told you exactly what doesn't work.
6/2/2005 10:02:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Lay them on a table then proceed with this. Turn the heat up in your house. Put on some wool socks and shuffle around the house for about 5 minutes. Walk to the chips and gently touch on, then repat for the other.

The little zap will supercharge the Ram and make it work better.
6/2/2005 10:04:52 PM EDT
[#12]
What brand Ram? I have seen that happen with cheap Ram. Dont know why though.
6/2/2005 10:05:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Contact the mfgr of your mobo.
6/2/2005 10:05:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
It'a a Gigabyte Technologies K8 Triton. It has 3 slots.

It doesn't matter where I seat them, they don't work, 1 and 2, 1 and 3, 2 and 3, nothing works. It only works with one stick.

You need to isolate the problem using the "process of elimination" or give us more info on what does and doesn't work.


I told you exactly what doesn't work.


Need the exact motherboard model number, what chipset... nforce???
6/2/2005 10:06:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Did you have ram in there before you got the upgrade?
6/2/2005 10:06:54 PM EDT
[#16]
you have verified that both sticks work independently?
6/2/2005 10:07:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It'a a Gigabyte Technologies K8 Triton. It has 3 slots.

It doesn't matter where I seat them, they don't work, 1 and 2, 1 and 3, 2 and 3, nothing works. It only works with one stick.

You need to isolate the problem using the "process of elimination" or give us more info on what does and doesn't work.


I told you exactly what doesn't work.


Need the exact motherboard model number.


Google is your friend:
GA-K8NS
6/2/2005 10:09:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Do you have 184-Pin memory? (Just making sure)
6/2/2005 10:10:07 PM EDT
[#19]
WTF are you talking about? The first post doesnt give the info we need to try and help.... Just the socket type and that means jack....

Quoted:
Quoted:
hrmm

what mobo model?

is it too much ram for your motherboard? is the ram seated properly?

if it is award bios.. that beep is unknown code.


this is funny.. just 20 min ago i put in a second stick of 512mb pc3200 ram... but i only have 2 slots.

Quoted:
Need more info..What motherboard? How many RAM slots? What slots are you putting them into?


Read the first post!!!!!!!!!!!! and GOOGLE.
6/2/2005 10:11:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
WTF are you talking about? The first post doesnt give the info we need to try and help.... Just the socket type and that means jack....

Quoted:
Quoted:
hrmm

what mobo model?

is it too much ram for your motherboard? is the ram seated properly?

if it is award bios.. that beep is unknown code.


this is funny.. just 20 min ago i put in a second stick of 512mb pc3200 ram... but i only have 2 slots.

Quoted:
Need more info..What motherboard? How many RAM slots? What slots are you putting them into?


Read the first post!!!!!!!!!!!! and GOOGLE.




I could of swore that there was/is a computer hardware company named "Socket." My bad anyway.

Found where I got it: www.socketcom.com/
6/2/2005 10:14:30 PM EDT
[#21]
LOL!!! Its cool...Just the CPU style.    (I.E. Socket A is the older AMD Athalon XP type)
6/2/2005 10:22:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Yes, it is 184 pin PC3200 DDR DIMM @ 400MHz

It wasn't an upgrade- new build

Both sticks work independently
6/2/2005 10:25:45 PM EDT
[#23]
go into the BIOS and make sure dual channel is OFF.  Then see if both sticks will work together.
6/2/2005 10:28:42 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It'a a Gigabyte Technologies K8 Triton. It has 3 slots.

It doesn't matter where I seat them, they don't work, 1 and 2, 1 and 3, 2 and 3, nothing works. It only works with one stick.

You need to isolate the problem using the "process of elimination" or give us more info on what does and doesn't work.


I told you exactly what doesn't work.


Need the exact motherboard model number.


Google is your friend:
GA-K8NS

Actually that's wrong.  It's a Gigabyte K8NSNXP
6/2/2005 10:30:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
go into the BIOS and make sure dual channel is OFF.  Then see if both sticks will work together.



I just looked in my BIOS and saw no such option.

Care to be more specific if you can?
6/2/2005 10:33:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
go into the BIOS and make sure dual channel is OFF.  Then see if both sticks will work together.



I just looked in my BIOS and saw no such option.

Care to be more specific if you can?


That motherboard does not support dual channel... so never mind.

3 beeps is a memory error...
6/2/2005 10:34:32 PM EDT
[#27]
LOL penguin..you made me read the first post like 5 times trying to figure out what i missed.

PWN3D!
6/2/2005 10:36:29 PM EDT
[#28]
Well, if the modules work one at a time and in slot one only....Either call Gigabyte or RMA the board cause its bad.
6/2/2005 10:36:54 PM EDT
[#29]
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.
6/2/2005 10:39:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.


I agree with the above statement.. it seems to be the last logical step before declaring a bad piece of equipment.. most likely the motherboard.
6/2/2005 10:41:26 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.


I agree with the above statement.. it seems to be the last logical step before declaring a bad piece of equipment.. most likely the motherboard.


I think you may need a BIOS update...

Is the BIOS you have now BIOS Ver. F12 or later.

If that is not it it may be the motherboard.
6/2/2005 10:41:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Me thinks you got the wrong memory....


again, it is the correct memory.

if it was the wrong kind, it wouldn't work at all would it?

I am not an idiot and I know quite a great deal about computers. I know that my Mobo needs 184-pin PC3200 DDR DIMM and that is exactly what I have.
6/2/2005 10:42:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.


I agree with the above statement.. it seems to be the last logical step before declaring a bad piece of equipment.. most likely the motherboard.


I think you may need a BIOS update...

Is the BIOS you have now BIOS Ver. F12 or later.


It is F9.

Where can I get the BIOS upgrade?
6/2/2005 10:42:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Do you have 4 slots for the ram?

If so then install it in slots 1 and 3 and it should work.

Sgat1r5

Make sure you try different memory slot combinations.  Especially with an athlon 64 it is probably trying to "pair" them, they may need to be in specific slots for that to work.

Also they should be the same type/speed.  Might check the part numbers to be certain.
6/2/2005 10:43:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.


I agree with the above statement.. it seems to be the last logical step before declaring a bad piece of equipment.. most likely the motherboard.


I think you may need a BIOS update...

Is the BIOS you have now BIOS Ver. F12 or later.


It is F9.

Where can I get the BIOS upgrade?


www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_List.htm

Read and follow the BIOS upgarde instructions or you may end up with a expensive paper weight.
6/2/2005 10:43:50 PM EDT
[#36]
bios downlaod page
www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_List.htm


bah.. i was beaten by 15 seconds LOL
6/2/2005 10:43:56 PM EDT
[#37]
You've got the right memory.  A brand would be helpful though.

Try troubleshooting for a faulty RAM slot.  Try a single stick in banks 1, 2 and 3.  Make sure they all work.

Also try resetting the BIOS as stated above and make sure your RAM timings and FSB are not too aggressive.
6/2/2005 10:43:58 PM EDT
[#38]
I redid that, but yes if it was the wrong kind it might do exactly what its doing, as I have seen it. But reread again though.....I changed (I had to re-read to much tonight)

Quoted:
Quoted:
Me thinks you got the wrong memory....


again, it is the correct memory.

if it was the wrong kind, it wouldn't work at all would it?

I am not an idiot and I know quite a great deal about computers. I know that my Mobo needs 184-pin PC3200 DDR DIMM and that is exactly what I have.
6/2/2005 10:44:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do you have 4 slots for the ram?

If so then install it in slots 1 and 3 and it should work.

Sgat1r5

Make sure you try different memory slot combinations.  Especially with an athlon 64 it is probably trying to "pair" them, they may need to be in specific slots for that to work.

Also they should be the same type/speed.  Might check the part numbers to be certain.


We can eliminate all those issues.

I tried every combination, and they are the same type. Both Kingston PC 3200 DDR DIMM
6/2/2005 10:45:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Call gigabyte or get a new board.....Im going with a bad board.
6/2/2005 10:46:40 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I would take out the memory modules and clear the CMOS and then reinstall the modules and see if that works.

Look to see if you have the latest BIOS.


I agree with the above statement.. it seems to be the last logical step before declaring a bad piece of equipment.. most likely the motherboard.


I think you may need a BIOS update...

Is the BIOS you have now BIOS Ver. F12 or later.

If that is not it it may be the motherboard.


You want BIOS F12, nothing 'later'.  F12 is the latest alpha release from gigabyte, no point in installing a beta BIOS for troubleshooting.
6/2/2005 10:46:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Try the BIOS update there seem to be some memory issues with older BIOS and this motherboard.
6/2/2005 10:49:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Try the BIOS update there seem to be some memory issues with older BIOS and this motherboard.



all hail bios updates.. they fix lots of stuff.

did it the other day myself!  made my frame rate in games 2-3x faster!
6/2/2005 10:53:05 PM EDT
[#44]
No word from him in a bit, maybe he fragged the board on the BIOS update?
6/2/2005 10:54:03 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
No word from him in a bit, maybe he fragged the board on the BIOS update?


Give him a little longer....
6/2/2005 10:54:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No word from him in a bit, maybe he fragged the board on the BIOS update?


Give him a little longer....


i love my board, i can update the bios from windows and it takes about 30 seconds.
6/2/2005 10:58:39 PM EDT
[#47]
Kingston ram has always been good to me.
I'm leaning towards a bad memory controller.
6/2/2005 10:59:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Kingston ram has always been good to me.
I'm leaning towards a bad memory controller.


The memory controller is on the CPU with a Alhlon 64...
6/2/2005 11:02:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Haven't worked with them.
I have been enlightened on Athlon 64s.
Thank you.
6/2/2005 11:04:24 PM EDT
[#50]
Downloaded the update here

www.giga-byte.com/Download/Download.asp?FileExtName=exe&DownloadPath=/MotherBoard/FileList/BIOS/bios_k8nsnxp_f12

i go to install, get message saying "File size error, please download the 2MB version".

I emailed Gigabyte about all this. Should get a reply in a week or so if last time is an hint to how things will go this time.

I recieved all the parts for this computer months ago. ~$1800 total.

Because of a bad stick of RAM before, it would restart itself suddenly and without warning when I'd do something like click a link, click the back button, open a program, etc.

This is frustrating the hell out of me.
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