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5/29/2005 12:41:45 PM EDT
I just visited this website that had silencer test results and it got me thinking...

Asided from covert / special ops forces, who uses them and WHY?  (obviously they reduce noise)

Do silencers affect ballistics or accuracy in any way?

Why would I ever want a silencer?
5/29/2005 12:43:48 PM EDT
[#1]

Why would I ever want a silencer?


So you can hear.
5/29/2005 12:45:05 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:

Asided from covert / special ops forces, who uses them and WHY?  (obviously they reduce noise)



a lot of members here


Quoted:

Why would I ever want a silencer?



Find a local dealer who will let you demo some of his, then you will see why
5/29/2005 12:45:09 PM EDT
[#3]
At short range they don't affect much.
No need for cumbersome hearing protection. It's the ideal flash hider.
The CDI (chicks dig it) factor is up there!
5/29/2005 12:55:40 PM EDT
[#4]
*cough*..suppressor...not "silencer".

All of the rifles and subguns on my tactical unit are suppressed.

A) So we can hear what the hell is going on and communicate better

B) So the badguys can hear our commands.

C) and yes, so we can shoot a dog and not have the BGs know we are about 5 seconds from taking their front door apart.

Guns are loud and make lots of noise.  Hearing protectors, in general, suck.  They interfer with comms and all other kinds of crap.  Unless you are .mil or po-po and your agency has the cash to spend on high-zoot integrated comm/hearing protection, suppressors are the way to go.

I have personally owned suppressed guns in .223, .308, 9mm, .45 and .22 and one very sweet internally suppressed .300 Whisper.  Cans are the shit.

If you are legally allowed to buy a suppressor in your state, I suggest you do so.  Once you shoot suppressed guns, you'll never go back.  It's well worth the $200 xfer and waiting game.  On the form, when asked the reason for use, I put "For all legal purposes."


Sheep
5/29/2005 12:56:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Dang it!  I guess now I need a silencer suppressor.

I was thinking about maybe putting one on my G17.

What's involved?  I guess I need to get the barrel threaded or do I need to buy a new barrel?  How much would this cost?
5/29/2005 12:57:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Ever have tinitius?
If you've had your ears ring for a few days, you'd *almost* be willing to go criminal and rob someone to have a suppressor.
5/29/2005 12:59:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Can....depending on price...$300-800.

New, 6in threaded BBL....150ish.

Form 4, $200 Xfer tax, prints, passport photos, Chief law enforcement sign-off and and long damn wait.

Go over the the M16 Full Auto forum here.  I'm sure there is a suppressor thread stickied, or on the first couple of pages.


Sheep
5/29/2005 1:02:31 PM EDT
[#8]
most calibers are not movie quiet.. the do not rid the weapon of any sound they merely change it's signature. most 9mm cans sounds more like nail guns. 22lr is about the only caliber you can actually get hollywood style quiet.
 Cans do make it easier to instructor  novice shooters b/c there is no loud bang and everyone can hear you speak. When there is no loud sound to anticipate, novice shooters preform better. JMO


J
5/29/2005 1:05:56 PM EDT
[#9]
Picked up my first silencer/suppressor Friday (Walther P22 with a Pilot) as soon as I can I will post pics and a range report.....something new for me...still waiting for my Krink suppresor...I was confused about the paperwork, the first time I hadda fill out a Form 1 and it took about 3 months, this time a Form 4 and it took about 3 weeks????? I was waiting for the letter when the dealer contacted me that I had 14 days to pick up the weapon and suppressor.......Just waiting for a day off to go shooting.....
5/29/2005 1:08:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Cobra what kind of can did you get for the krink?  Contemplating something similar.  
5/29/2005 1:53:19 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Cobra what kind of can did you get for the krink?  Contemplating something similar.  

Same co. as the Pilot (AAC), but that is taking a little longer than the Pilot, when I picked up the Pilot the dealer had told me that his transfer had not cleared yet, but I was surprized the Pilot took only 3 weeks from mailing to pickup....check out the AAC website they got pictures of the Pilot and the Krink can...
5/29/2005 2:12:50 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Cobra what kind of can did you get for the krink?  Contemplating something similar.  

Same co. as the Pilot (AAC), but that is taking a little longer than the Pilot, when I picked up the Pilot the dealer had told me that his transfer had not cleared yet, but I was surprized the Pilot took only 3 weeks from mailing to pickup....check out the AAC website they got pictures of the Pilot and the Krink can...



I've been eyeballing the Krink can from AAC. Only thing is that their customer service seems a little spotty.

Please post something about it on the AK side, once you get it.
5/29/2005 3:43:35 PM EDT
[#13]
The guy that built my Krink, Troy Sellars at InRange had a hand in designing it for AAC.... and that kinda decided it for me.....
5/29/2005 4:11:19 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
most calibers are not movie quiet.. the do not rid the weapon of any sound they merely change it's signature. most 9mm cans sounds more like nail guns. 22lr is about the only caliber you can actually get hollywood style quiet.
 Cans do make it easier to instructor  novice shooters b/c there is no loud bang and everyone can hear you speak. When there is no loud sound to anticipate, novice shooters preform better. JMO


J



Supressed .45 ACP and .44 Special are pretty darned quiet in a bolt gun.  If there is a breeze to make the leaves rustle, you really won't hear it.  Texas Parks and Wildlife uses supressed .44 Special bolt guns and I was amazed at how quiet they were.  Ruger-based, integrally supressed.  I have shot older bolt .45 ACP carbines, same deal.

Supressors put a little tension in the barrel and often slightly change the point of aim and improve the accuracy (they seem to reduce yaw with the bullet base)(that's the theory, anyway).
5/29/2005 4:13:53 PM EDT
[#15]
I want one for the mere fact that having it makes my government fearful (hence the hoops you have to jump through to obtain one).
5/29/2005 4:22:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Cuz you screw them on the end of your gun and they are cool.
5/29/2005 4:26:44 PM EDT
[#17]
I have no need for a suppressor but they are hella fun!
5/29/2005 5:35:25 PM EDT
[#18]
I bought one simply because it doubles the cool factor of my subgun.