[ARCHIVED THREAD] - The Backdoor Draft Expands (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/18/2005 5:02:23 AM EDT
According to this article they are now recalling infantry who last served four years ago on a two year enlistment.
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| What the article is not telling you is that in addition to the two years of active duty there was a certain number of years of IRR in the contract that he signed. I'm guessing he signed a contract for two years active duty and six years IRR. I know for a four year active duty enlistment, you a signing a contract that is for four years active duty and four years IRR. |
bingo! You sign up for a minimum of 8 years, sometimes they let you out early and you get recalled at any time. I did 4 and 4 during the first gulf war. Never got called back tho. |
What he said. It isn't a draft. |
depends on how many years he completed. if he completed only 2 or 4 years, then he has the remainder on Inactive Reserves and could be called back at any time until he reaches the 8th year. |
I guess he's on the list. He's not the soldier type really, he joined for a shot at the Golden Knights and actually made the team but peered out. I think he only did two years in. He wont like getting called up if it happens. What are the odds? |
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God bless the members of our armed forces... but the few whiners there are really piss me off. You go in knowing the obligations. I had very closely considered getting into the military after I graduated high school in the late 80s. And even then I knew there was a 4 year period (IIRC it's longer if you're higher up, too) they could call you back after your period of duty was up. Don't get me started on the National Guard or Reserve people that complain that they got dragged out of their homes for active duty... That college money isn't free. |
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Why is it that when I was a teenager and enlisted, I knew the nature of my contract and the terms of my enlistment? I was aware of what it meant to be IRR. Yet people are shocked when they are called upon to live up to that contract. If you use the term "Backdoor Draft", you are essentially admitting that you are stupid. |
 I couldn't have said it better. |
that pretty much describes the media...i never met anyone who wasn't told by the recruiter what the deal was. same for the tamp class, they tell you to maintain your shit in the irr and to keep your info updated with mcrsc (now mobcom) in case you're called back. recalls weren't just for wartime, either. i've known lots of guys called back cuz they had the experience that was needed for something or an mos was critically short... i remember back in the day, before kids started learning computers at 3 or 4 yoa, the corps called a super geek back for some kinda project...guy went from making high six figures to lance coolie pay overnight! man, talk about PISSED! hahahahahaha  and i remember a married snco couple back in the early '80's who got a $100,000 reenl bonus cuz they were in the computer mos... man, i sure missed that boat! 
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I was wondering the same thing. It was VERY clear when I enlisted in '86 what the deal was. And they say that the quality and intelligence of enlistees is getting better??
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The mere fact that he's making this a public issue is whining (like a little girl). Tossing out "I'm happy to do it" is a thinly veiled attempt to reduce all the "cry baby" accusations. |
+1 Where is the govt denying any of this? As a matter of fact they put it in writing, on his contract. |
What the hell does this douchebag want? A personal letter to every citizen, detailing EXACTLY what the military is doing? ETA: SHIT FIRE!!! POST 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have mercy! I MADE IT!!!!!!! Google 1000 Image search:    |
HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! Clearly, you can see the slant in this "report". I bet if you polled the writiers feeling about Iraq, you;d find he's like every other "combat veteran from vietnam" who opposes the war. Sandy Vagina syndrome if you ask me. Me...I'm waiting for the call to SRP and premob, its almost inevitable as an 11Chuck. Screw it, I'll go drop rounds for a year! 
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Actually, I doubt that. This guy was a moderately well-known writer for Reason and Suck before he decided to join the Army - which he did before 9/11 and certainly not because he had to do it. I've chatted with him a few times over the Internet and I don't doubt he is telling the truth when he says he doesn't mind going. He just wants to make the point that the Pentagon is claiming that they are only using the IRR to fill a few critical specialties when it seems from this activation that they are using it to recall 11-series soldiers. Being one of those libertarian-types, he probably got pissed to see the government misrepresenting exactly who was getting called up through the IRR and being a former journalist, he had easy access to people happy to tell his story. |
SUre it is. The guy isn't being honest about what his military obligations are. ANd then he is bitching about having to fullfill his committeement. SGatr15 |
There was. There were some doctors that I remember reading about getting called up an complaining about it. Same story, money for school. |
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I can't believe these frigging whiners. If you sign up to serve you are signing up for a minumum of an 8 year enlistment. Your initial enlistment, whether it be 2 or 4 years but 4 or 6 in the IRR, respectivley. There are steps that could have been taken to prevent this from being such a " Surprise". 1. Read your goddamn enlistment contract. 2. Pay a little more attention in Boot, it was explained to me several times over the first few weeks, and again upon seperation from service at the end of my 1st enlistment. Only in America can you expect to see people whining over having to actually finish what they started. Bravo to all those trying to get in now, sorry you can't. 
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