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5/12/2005 10:59:42 AM EDT
I'm not trying to start a thread on Glock bashing, or which handgun is the best,
I own a Glock 19C, all of the time I hear they go Boom, get rid of a Glock,
I have put about 750-100 rounds through mine with only one jam, the rest have been good.
If there is a fault with Glocks, what are the specifics? wear and tear on the gun? what causes
them to go Boom, what do I need do to make sure mine does not go Boom?
5/12/2005 11:03:40 AM EDT
[#1]
ugh, you are opening a can of worms. Basically, shoot factory ammo, and you wont have a problem. My buddy blew his 23 up with shitty handloads.
5/12/2005 11:05:15 AM EDT
[#2]
the fault typically lies in overcharged handloads or OLDER federal ammo.  the older federal ammo had a bad case design that would fail and cause problems.  
overcharged rounds are an obvious problem as well.


glocks are one of the most numerous handgun in the US, mechanical objects fail sometimes, and people like to blow things out of proportion when they see something "new fangled"

I have a glock 23 with a few thousand downrange with no failures other than a couple bad primers in rounds.  
5/12/2005 11:08:33 AM EDT
[#3]
I am not a Glock guy, I only own one (G30), and am very happy with it.

MOST of the kaboom stories involve the .40 caliber models. Something about unsupported chambers?

A few of the stories involve the use of handloads and reloads of questionable quality.

Some involve the use of non jacketed lead bullets.

There are a few instances of the .45 caliber models suffering a catastrophic failure, unsure of the circumstances.

Someone will be along shortly to call both of us asshats.
5/12/2005 11:09:32 AM EDT
[#4]
If it eases your mind at all, there are apparently less kabooms with the 9mm variants.  I have a G17 that I pretty much kick the sh!t out of.  No problems.  Factory ammo of course.

That said, I wouldn't be worried owning a .40 S&W Glock either but I have other stuff to get on my list before that.

One thing about the "Glock .40" though, you need to be a real "professional" to handle one.  

coburn
5/12/2005 11:10:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Your Glock 19c should be ok if you use all factory loads in it.  The biggest KB problems are with .40 and .45 caliber ammo due to undersupported chambers.
5/12/2005 11:20:03 AM EDT
[#6]
So I take it no P+ Ammo ? I have been looking at buying a 1000 rd lot any suggestions ?
5/12/2005 11:21:06 AM EDT
[#7]
Shoot +p+ in your 19 all you want. Just no lead bullets or handloads.
5/12/2005 11:21:22 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
So I take it no P+ Ammo ?



in a 9mm you'll have no probs with +p.  I've seen people put the rediculously hot subgun rounds through their Glock 17s in large numbers(like 2000 rounds plus) with no problems
5/12/2005 11:21:40 AM EDT
[#9]
www.thegunzone.com/glock/gindex2.html
5/12/2005 11:23:09 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm not worried about the cheapist ammo, but good ammo at a fair price thats reliable.
5/12/2005 11:24:21 AM EDT
[#11]
Shoot factory ammo that is jacketed (not lead) and it'll be fine. 99.99% of kaboom stuff is internet bullshit.

A gunwriter named Dean Speir came up with this ".40 unsupported chamber kaboom" theory. He posts here occaissionally. You can find his website at gunzone.com (I tried to find it but either his site is goofed up or my computer is, the typeface was really teeny tiny). He has pictures of various "blowed up" glocks, a few 40s and some in other calibers, with descriptions of what mostly anonymous people claimed happened to their guns-usually involving either shooting lead through the gun or shooting gun range reloads. Some stories told on the internet don't prove a theory, though. One of the moderators here, The Beer Slayer, had a used .45 Glock 30 he bought blow up when his dad was using it. You can read about it on Speir's website. Although I know TBS and think very highly of him, I still carry Glock pistols. Even Speir, I think, would admit that the 9mm Glocks with factory ammo are very reliable handguns.

5/12/2005 11:25:31 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm not worried about the cheapist ammo, but good ammo at a fair price thats reliable.



I wouldnt worry at all.  9mm glocks have been known to run over 150000(yes thats the right number of zeros) without major repair.  glocks are great guns, yes some have failed, but look at all the KBed 1911s in .38 super, or 10mm, it can happen to any gun.  even AKs have KBed.  dont believe the hysteria you'll be fine.  
5/12/2005 11:27:06 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I'm not worried about the cheapist ammo, but good ammo at a fair price thats reliable.



I've always had very good luck with Fiocchi ammo. However I have put 1000s of rounds of Wolf through my Glocks, along with Olympic, S&B, Silver Wolf ,UMC, white box, and I'm sure others that I can't remember at the moment-never had any problems.
5/12/2005 11:32:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Never owned a Glock.  I have shot them, and hate them with a burning passion.  (I can't hit what I'm shooting at - it feels funny in my hand).  I own and love my Beretta 96 Centurion.

Having said that, I know guys who have Glocks, shoot them accurately and well, and would not be caught dead or alive without them.  Bottom line is that I trust these guys and their judgment as far as guns are concerned.  If Glocks went KB as much as and for the reasons the Glock haters here say, then Glock would have 1.)No fanatical fans, and 2.)No business due to bad press and lawsuits.

Just my .02

Flame away.
5/12/2005 12:03:31 PM EDT
[#15]
I don't use lead bullets in Glocks...something about the polygonal rifling supposedly is incompatible with lead bullets..after there is a little leading in the barrel, pressures rise. At least that is what I've been told. I do not have access to pressure measurement devices.
5/12/2005 12:07:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Anyone worried about their Glocks exploding can feel free to ship it to me for proper disposal.  :>

Seriously, shoot good, clean, new factory, jacketed ammo in ANY Glock and you will be fine.
5/12/2005 12:09:51 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I don't use lead bullets in Glocks...something about the polygonal rifling supposedly is incompatible with lead bullets..after there is a little leading in the barrel, pressures rise. At least that is what I've been told. I do not have access to pressure measurement devices.



this is true, the polygon rifling will lead up with a quickness.  this will cause pressure spikes and will result in a KB.  this isnt just for glocks however, any weapon with polygon rifling(desert eagle for example) will do this.
5/12/2005 12:12:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Hate them, won't touch them
5/12/2005 12:15:46 PM EDT
[#19]
I have a Glock 23 that I bought used in 1996. It belonged to a buddy of mine and he bought it new in 1995. It goes with me everywhere and I couldn't tell you how many times it has been shot. I used to shoot handloads in it until I heard all the kBoom stories. I don't shoot lead bullets in it either. The majority of ammo that I have burned in it has been CCI Blazer 180 grain FMJs. It has never malfunctioned and I am so used to it now I'd hate to change to anything else. I also own a Glock 19 that I bought new in 2002 and it has had one malfunction, less than 100 rounds into breaking it in.

I read that one possibility of the .40 & .45 kBooms can be traced to re-chambering the same round over and over again. It is said that the bullet is being pushed back enough to cause the pressure to skyrocket before the bullet can escape. I'm not saying that's the definite cause or that I have seen it happen, I just read it somewhere. Now I swap rounds often without re-chambering the same one over and over.