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3/17/2005 8:43:10 PM EDT
What do you think?

I am for term limits.

I know there are pros and cons. Lay it out.
3/17/2005 8:45:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Hmmm... honestly im not sure what I think, but I do think its a shame that all that contract with america stuff died off so long ago, I really liked that balanced budget amendment.
3/17/2005 8:46:48 PM EDT
[#2]
There are term limits already.
3/17/2005 8:47:46 PM EDT
[#3]
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms
3/17/2005 8:53:25 PM EDT
[#4]
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.
3/17/2005 8:55:03 PM EDT
[#5]
I think there should be term limits. There are reps and senators that have been in there for 30 years that are out of touch. No more than 20 years in either chamber would be good.
3/17/2005 8:56:31 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.

Just out of curiosity, why?  That was meant for a time when their was no way for the constituents to get info on candidates to vote for them.
3/17/2005 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#7]
out of curiosity, when do all the hardcore anti's get to go home (feinstein, schumer, kennedy)?
3/17/2005 9:00:05 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
out of curiosity, when do all the hardcore anti's get to go home (feinstein, schumer, kennedy)?



Feinstein has got to be on her third term by now...

Last one, eh?
3/17/2005 9:02:15 PM EDT
[#9]

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out of curiosity, when do all the hardcore anti's get to go home (feinstein, schumer, kennedy)?



Kennedy will continue to be elected till he is dead, the same probably applies to the other two also.
3/17/2005 9:04:35 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

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out of curiosity, when do all the hardcore anti's get to go home (feinstein, schumer, kennedy)?



Kennedy will continue to be elected till he is dead, the same probably applies to the other two also.

yup
3/17/2005 9:07:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Pangea:

In theory ...yes.

However, in my perfect world, people would have to make a (thoughful) decision every so often rather than  just voting for the sitting t**ds.

Also, there are anti-RTKBA Republicans and pro-RTKBA Democrats.

I am RTKBA. Period.

Everything else can and will work itself out.





3/17/2005 9:07:19 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms



Are you joking?

Teddys been elected 8 times!
3/17/2005 9:14:13 PM EDT
[#13]
-Absolut-

that's too long. cut it in 3/4 and you're getting close.
3/17/2005 9:16:28 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.




hmmmmm
3/17/2005 9:19:52 PM EDT
[#15]
1962, 1964, 1970, 1976, 1982, 1988, 1994, and 2000.
3/17/2005 9:21:27 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
out of curiosity, when do all the hardcore anti's get to go home (feinstein, schumer, kennedy)?




when you guys vote them out!
3/17/2005 9:23:53 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms



Are you joking?

Teddys been elected 8 times!



I believe that is his opinion on what the term limits should be. He has a Clemson avatar so that probably means he went to college and most likely took numerous Govt. classes.
3/17/2005 9:23:58 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms



Are you joking?

Teddys been elected 8 times!



Those limits won’t do toooo long.

Senate= no more than 2 consecutive terms

House= no more than 6 consecutive terms
3/17/2005 9:26:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Oh yeah.. the "Honorable" (and in a lot of ways he is) John Warner (R-VA) is a prime supporter of the "new" 2005 AWB. I've written several letters to him and he keeps sending the  same "stuff" back. I just don't seem to be getting through to him!

I want a new Republican Senator from VA!

3/17/2005 9:28:10 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.



IIRC, this procedure is still in effect. The State legislatures have graciously given the vote to the people, but there is nothing at the federal level that says it must be that way. State legislatures can take the responsibility back if they wish. Of course, revolt would follow as a consequence.
3/17/2005 9:28:25 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms



Are you joking?

Teddys been elected 8 times!



I believe that is his opinion on what the term limits should be. He has a Clemson avatar so that probably means he went to college and most likely took numerous Govt. classes.



OOOHHH, I see, the guy above him said we do have term limits (wrong) and then he said that so I thought he was stating what he thought term limits were
3/17/2005 9:40:42 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.



IIRC, this procedure is still in effect. The State legislatures have graciously given the vote to the people, but there is nothing at the federal level that says it must be that way. State legislatures can take the responsibility back if they wish. Of course, revolt would follow as a consequence.




Article XVII of the United States Constitution
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

Proposal and Ratification

The seventeenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Sixty-second Congress on the 13th of May, 1912, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 31st of May, 1913, to have been ratified by the legislatures of 36 of the 48 States. The dates of ratification were: Massachusetts, May 22, 1912; Arizona, June 3, 1912; Minnesota, June 10, 1912; New York, January 15, 1913; Kansas, January 17, 1913; Oregon, January 23, 1913; North Carolina, January 25, 1913; California, January 28, 1913; Michigan, January 28, 1913; Iowa, January 30, 1913; Montana, January 30, 1913; Idaho, January 31, 1913; West Virginia, February 4, 1913; Colorado, February 5, 1913; Nevada, February 6, 1913; Texas, February 7, 1913; Washington, February 7, 1913; Wyoming, February 8, 1913; Arkansas, February 11, 1913; Maine, February 11, 1913; Illinois, February 13, 1913; North Dakota, February 14, 1913; Wisconsin, February 18, 1913; Indiana, February 19, 1913; New Hampshire, February 19, 1913; Vermont, February 19, 1913; South Dakota, February 19, 1913; Oklahoma, February 24, 1913; Ohio, February 25, 1913; Missouri, March 7, 1913; New Mexico, March 13, 1913; Nebraska, March 14, 1913; New Jersey, March 17, 1913; Tennessee, April 1, 1913; Pennsylvania, April 2, 1913; Connecticut, April 8, 1913.

Ratification was completed on April 8, 1913.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Louisiana, June 11, 1914.

The amendment was rejected by Utah (and not subsequently ratified) on February 26, 1913.



you need to know how your government works buddy
3/17/2005 9:51:43 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Senate= no more than 3 consecutive terms

House= no more than 10 consecutive terms



Are you joking?

Teddys been elected 8 times!



I believe that is his opinion on what the term limits should be. He has a Clemson avatar so that probably means he went to college and most likely took numerous Govt. classes.

Ah. So he knows even LESS than the average person about the matter.


I say 12years consecutive max, no more than 18yrs total. Then out. And I think it should be total / combined service in either House or Senate - No running out the clock in one chamber, then switching to the other.
Ideally, we should go back to the idea of Citizen-Statesmen, wherein our elected representatives have whole other lives / careers and their Govt Service is just that, Service to the People, not to themselves / their own Power. Give'em a stipend to enable their work, not enrich the bastards. AND, no more of this special privilege crapola - put the mofos BACK into the Social Security system and see how eager they get about fixing it.
3/17/2005 10:08:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Thanks rayra...that's pretty much what I was thinking.... it's a privilege/duty not a job!
3/17/2005 10:12:52 PM EDT
[#25]
You're welcome. I'll go one more, more of a flippant answer - anyone that SEEKS the job damned well ought to be barred from it. Should be like jury duty. Do a good job and we'll let you come home early.
3/17/2005 10:23:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Hmmm. I like it. Seeing as I am not rich, good looking, well-connected...etc...I would proudly and humbly serve the People to the best of my ability.

Of course, I would probably not make it past the selection process...so...I nominate Sgtar15!
3/18/2005 3:35:10 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Senate, for them to go back to the original intent of the Founding Fathers, that they be elected by their States Legistlature.



IIRC, this procedure is still in effect. The State legislatures have graciously given the vote to the people, but there is nothing at the federal level that says it must be that way. State legislatures can take the responsibility back if they wish. Of course, revolt would follow as a consequence.




Article XVII of the United States Constitution
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

Proposal and Ratification

The seventeenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Sixty-second Congress on the 13th of May, 1912, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 31st of May, 1913, to have been ratified by the legislatures of 36 of the 48 States. The dates of ratification were: Massachusetts, May 22, 1912; Arizona, June 3, 1912; Minnesota, June 10, 1912; New York, January 15, 1913; Kansas, January 17, 1913; Oregon, January 23, 1913; North Carolina, January 25, 1913; California, January 28, 1913; Michigan, January 28, 1913; Iowa, January 30, 1913; Montana, January 30, 1913; Idaho, January 31, 1913; West Virginia, February 4, 1913; Colorado, February 5, 1913; Nevada, February 6, 1913; Texas, February 7, 1913; Washington, February 7, 1913; Wyoming, February 8, 1913; Arkansas, February 11, 1913; Maine, February 11, 1913; Illinois, February 13, 1913; North Dakota, February 14, 1913; Wisconsin, February 18, 1913; Indiana, February 19, 1913; New Hampshire, February 19, 1913; Vermont, February 19, 1913; South Dakota, February 19, 1913; Oklahoma, February 24, 1913; Ohio, February 25, 1913; Missouri, March 7, 1913; New Mexico, March 13, 1913; Nebraska, March 14, 1913; New Jersey, March 17, 1913; Tennessee, April 1, 1913; Pennsylvania, April 2, 1913; Connecticut, April 8, 1913.

Ratification was completed on April 8, 1913.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Louisiana, June 11, 1914.

The amendment was rejected by Utah (and not subsequently ratified) on February 26, 1913.



you need to know how your government works buddy



Oh well. Took a bad guess. 1914 huh? I might be a little behind the times. Are women allowed to vote yet?
3/18/2005 5:02:19 PM EDT
[#28]
8 years. Nobody should be able to hold elected office for more than that. Cut Senate terms down to 4 years and put term limits on judges. Allow for recall of ALL elected officials at mid-term, including the President.