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Posted: 6/23/2001 6:25:39 PM EDT
OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link...
But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue] |
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Here's the poster pic for "GUN SAFETY"
[img]http://www.sleazydream.com/30d/003.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: Just delete the entire post. View Quote I thought about that dangerousdan but I also think an explanation of why the post was edited is a good idea. I delete them if it happens again. The first time could be a case of not knowing the conduct code or users policy. |
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Bloody Fascists! hahaha
I realizde now that I should have just posted a link to the first 3 pics, that had no nudity... Oh well, live and learn. Personally, I found those pics to be FAR less objectionable than the video of that Russian Soldier. I will take boobs over videos of young guys being brutally murdered on film any day, but to each his own I guess... |
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Nothing wrong with the pic. If Squire was'nt honest and the pic did'nt have a adress no harm done.
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Quoted: OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link... But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue] View Quote Thank You Striker for protecting me from "links." If you had not gotten rid of it I may not have been able to control myself. I might have seen porn. And then I would surely commit some kind of felony. We are all safer without "links." And bayo lugs, and flash hiders, and collapsable stocks, and freedom, and free thought......... |
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I just thought it was funny, that's all... A friend of mine sent me a link, and the email was titled "Is this your wife?" hehehe
He knows I am a gun nut, and also a moderate fan of boobage... That was why I did not post the pics themselves here, just a link, with a warning of what they were... Oh well, no harm no foul. How about I just imbed a pic? One that has NO nudity or anything objectionable, it is merely a pic of a woman holding an AR15... Here is one, totally clean, and rated "G" so if you have kids in the room, you need not worry. Oh well, the damned link does not work, so forget it... All you horny gun-loving guys will just have to wonder about what you missed out on! haha |
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SquireSCA, do me a favor and email me the link(the original one that was removed)so I can pretend I'm a grown up.
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Can you mail me that link too.... my wifes not looking right now so it will be OK... honest...
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!!!!!!!!DO NOT ENTER THAT SITE! IT CONTAINS A VIRUS! LUCKY I HAD NORTON!!! NO BULL! DO NOT ENTER THIS SITE(SLEAZYDREAM.COM)THANK GOD FOR NORTON!!!!
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Surfer, what are you talking about? A virus in the site itself??
What is the name of it? I am scanning with Norton 2000 as we speak, but so far it has found nothing... For the rest of you guys requesting the link, not until I verify that there is no problem with that site. |
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No doubt. Email me the link someone. I'm an adult and perfectly capable of making my OWN decisions.
-Gloftoe |
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Quoted: Surfer, what are you talking about? A virus in the site itself?? What is the name of it? I am scanning with Norton 2000 as we speak, but so far it has found nothing... For the rest of you guys requesting the link, not until I verify that there is no problem with that site. it was a play on words to get the site post back here. View Quote |
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You rat bastard! LOL
I am updated my Nav Def files and scanning my entire network as we speak because of a goof?? Damn you, damn you to hell! hehehe Actually, I thought that perhaps it was a java script running on the page, adding URL's to your favorites, and Norton saw it trying to make a change and sent up a red flag. I have heard of some sites doing that before... You crazy kids... |
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Squire, I would never, never joke about somthing like that. My norton flaged me grabed the virus and threw it into quarantine. I sent it off to norton to get rid of it. what kind? is their a good kind? I get flaged I dump it as fast as it came. Norton should get back to me to tell me what I had. Do you really want to know? I dont as long as I dont have it anymore.
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drama...........and no porn...........this sucks......................................
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Quoted: drama...........and no porn...........this sucks...................................... View Quote my sentiments exactly. |
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It's wrong to have porn on this site.
BUT we do have a drug forum section now because thats more appropriate! something is WRONG here. |
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Silversurfer, I've got Norton, too. No problems here with virus, etc., at all. Sorry about your problems.
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I fully agree with SteyrAug. We have posts of some poor smuck getting a knife run thru his neck and discussions about drugs and everything else under the sun but better protect us from seeing the ole bearded clam! Egad! Thanks![whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko]
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Quoted: I fully agree with SteyrAug. We have posts of some poor smuck getting a knife run thru his neck and discussions about drugs and everything else under the sun but better protect us from seeing the ole bearded clam! Egad! Thanks! View Quote The topic of the soldier being brutally murdered arguably served the purpose of discussing the brutal things done to people under the excuse of war! Hopefully it gave some of our more aggressive commandos here a chance to witness from afar what mankind is capable of. A discussion of drugs,although I am not sure what thread you might have been referring to,is to clarify concepts, dispel misconceptions or give advice to people with drug related problems. [b]We are not trying to protect any of you from seeing porno or anything else for that matter.You are presumably adults and can choose for yourselves.[/b] We do not want any links here because: 1)We have decided it is not appropriate for this site, and we do not want to be a vehicle for it's dissemination. 2)It is easily available in other sites. You can send each other the links through email if you wish,so we are not really depriving you of the "enjoyment" of such sites by not allowing them here. I hope you understand our position.It might not be anymore valid than yours, but it is the one we have adopted for this site. [:)] |
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I'm siding with Ed and the mods on this - this site is private property and the owners have every right to determine the content. That doesn't make them facists, it makes them the owners. I thought this had been corrected with the launching of the "other" site. Things have been a lot more civil around here lately so why go back?
Thanks Ed!! And yes, I like to look at naked ladies with guns as much as anyone else - and I can go find those pics and see them if I'm in the mood. That's what makes the internet such an amazing thing. |
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I ran Norton and found no virus on my system, and my friend checked it out, his was clean as well.
Whoever wants the link, email me and I will send it... LOL I actually am curious as to what AR15 variant he has... And she has great legs too! haha |
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Quoted: OK, now I know that a gun forum is NOT the place to post porn, so I will merely supply a link... But the chic has an AR15, A1 upper it appears, so I felt that it was somehow, in a wierd and roundabout sorta way, appropriate. hehehe [blue]Well in a not so weird and roundabout way..I deleted the link because porn does not belong here.[/blue] View Quote Post it on [url]http://ubb.mcuzi.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=11[/url] You will be welcomed and praised over there. |
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Quoted: Whoever wants the link, email me and I will send it...... View Quote Yes. I would like to have that terrible link. [beer] By the way, you should be ashamed of yourself by not sending it to me already!! [>(] Damn YOU!! Damn YOU!! How dare you even try and keep me from viewing a beautiful woman with a weapon!! You should have your membership TERMINATED on the spot!! (Shhhh, I here the Gestapo coming) DK [:D] P.S. Let's see...... where's my papers...... hmmmm...... uhhhh...... Yep, I'm Free, White and over 21!! Cool!! |
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Quoted: I'm siding with Ed and the mods on this - this site is private property and the owners have every right to determine the content. That doesn't make them facists, it makes them the owners. I thought this had been corrected with the launching of the "other" site. Things have been a lot more civil around here lately so why go back? Thanks Ed!! And yes, I like to look at naked ladies with guns as much as anyone else - and I can go find those pics and see them if I'm in the mood. That's what makes the internet such an amazing thing. View Quote |
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2) No inapropriate pictures.[b] (Nudity is acceptable if it is linked and preceded by a warning.) This means simple adult nudity.[/b] If you have to think about posting a picture, then it's a good bet you SHOULD NOT POST IT.
[blue]That is why I deleted the link. There is a difference between nudity and porn.[/blue] |
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The mods are wrong on this one... though it's their site so I'll respect the decision. The link was labled for what it was and we are all adults here, morality police be damned. We regularly discuss things on this site that the general public would consider reprehensible. One does not need to see a russian soldiers head nearly removed to know that war is disgusting and brutal, but there it was anyway. In the same vein as that, if someone posted the rape of a chechen woman by a russian soldier, would you keep that up as another testament to what atrocities we (as human beings) exact upon one another in times of war, or would you take it down as "porn"? Don't get me wrong, I do not want to see any of the things I just mentioned, but I do want to point out the disparity between the things that are acceptable here and the things that are not. This will never become a porn site, the nature of members here would never allow it, as I think we're ahead of the average American in terms of our own morality and ability to self-police. IMHO, we do not need a moderator to tell us what is appropriate or what is not. The link was labled, not splattered as a pic that someone unsuspecting could happen upon, and whomever saw it MADE A CONSIOUS DESCISION to go to that site, despite the disclaimer. I thought the purpose of this forum was to encourage discussion, which it has certainly done, although I doubt this is what z71rat originally intended.
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Striker is right, there's a difference between nudity and porn.
The link that was posted was definitely porn. There's a place for that stuff not far from here, but I agree it really has no place on our forums. nudity = OK within reason, under certain circumstances. porn= not OK. |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=32405#lastPost
this one ED |
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It's really rather simple. The Avila's have invited us into their house with the understanding that we will abide by their rules. If we become unruly or don't abide by their wishes we will be shown the door.
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THIS A PRIVATE SITE ! WE ARE ALL GUESTS HERE ! Thanks to ed and anti and G boy ! If you don't like it - go away ! [chainsawkill] |
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Quoted: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=32405#lastPost[/url] this one ED View Quote Not ever having tried any of those poisons called "drugs" that have plagued us for so long, I have nothing to contribute,but I see others have. On a bunch of porno pictures,what conversation is to be expected to be generated? I got bigger? I've done better? Mine is prettier?............Not the kind of discussion that leads to anything. Amusing? Perhaps to some.And to those of you,I respectfully say:feel free to go to those sites that offer it, and enjoy it 'till you are satisfied.....then come back here and continue your discussion! No offense intended,just trying to explain my point of view. |
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Jeez, I read the rules and they say that nudity is OK if a warning is provided. MOREOVER, the nudity was NOT posted on this site, only a link.
As for "the difference between nudity and pornography" . . . The US Supreme Court can't agree on the difference. How then is the moderater herein able to discern what the US Supreme Court cannot? I thought we had a First Amendment. Speaking of which, and taking a shot at (aha! "shot" a gun term, it's NOT off topic) sounding the depths of the First Amendment . . . Take a look at Chatropolis.com (not a link nor a porno post) -- uncensored chat with html capacity. There's a "general topics" section should you be aghast by the "adult topics." I damn near died defending the Constitution. I'd be willing to kill someone over it. (Been there. Done that -- before.) |
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PowderBurns there is a difference between a pic of a woman topless,wearing something see through,totally naked or even a naked guy for that matter and pictures of a man and woman getting it on.
Which makes me wonder how many guys here would be hollering for one of us to delete a thread if one of our female members posted a pic or link of some naked guys!!!! |
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Quoted: Jeez, I read the rules and they say that nudity is OK if a warning is provided. MOREOVER, the nudity was NOT posted on this site, only a link. View Quote I did not see the pictures before they were removed,but from what I read it was not nudity that prompted their removal. Apparently they were porn. |
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Quoted: As for "the difference between nudity and pornography" . . . The US Supreme Court can't agree on the difference. How then is the moderater herein able to discern what the US Supreme Court cannot? I thought we had a First Amendment. View Quote But be that as it may,[b]the SC has nothing to do with our rules in this board,anymore than they have with a pervert's wish to express his right to be nude.....in your house,in front of your family![/b] I damn near died defending the Constitution. I'd be willing to kill someone over it. (Been there. Done that -- before.) View Quote Many of us have "damn near died defending the Constitution",and I applaud and thank you for it,but the point is.....[red]THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONSTITUTION! [/red] |
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To the mods, it really wasn't my intention to start something. Just a knee jerk reaction to people who would suppose to decide for me. That said I really do understand this is YOUR forum and I appreciate being here. But please bear in mind a few things.
Due to the military/leo make up of this forum it will ALWAYS exist in reality. For this reason harsh/graphic images will ALWAYS make their presence. I really do appreciate and respect that you are trying to run a "respectable" forum. This is the reason I have ALWAYS posted here and more or less ignored AK47.net. But again, we are mostly freedom loving people who live in and deal with the real world. So there will always be the occassional photo from rotten.com, etc. Please consider it the price of freedom(like putting up with Louis Farrakans stupid ass). I honestly believe that the members here do a decent job of "self moderation" out of respect for the site. Blatant violantions are few and far between and usually the work of trolls and not regular members. Also, I think there is resistance to percieved "censorship" due the the large moderator to member ratio. Having said that the mods are pretty cool. I actually like Striker, even though I kind of called him out. I would have done the same to Treetop who I consider a "bud". So what I am asking is that you consider the source. Treat troublemakers like troublemakers and members like members. If Frank the Spank posts something kinda messed up, remember Frank is a good egg when all is said and done. And if I or another member posts the occasional "boobie" with fair warning as to content please let it go. I really have NOT seen anything too far gone as far as pics. But I do have to wonder about the original post HERE being edited and a post about "dropping acid" running it's course. Not that I think that one needed heavy regulation either. Just suprised by and concerned for the members who advocate use of these substances. |
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I think that people are really to uptight about this.
This is not a question of whether or not it was porn. IT WAS. But, we are adults after all, and it was merely a link, with a WARNING, click at your own risk. If you are religious, have kids in the room, or are otherwise opposed to such things, DON'T CLICK THE LINK. That being said, if the powers that be in this forum want it removed, while we may think it silly in light of other posts recently, it is still their forum, we don't have to like it, but their house, their rules. The point is not even whether the pics were tasteful or porn, or if it showed penetration... It was supposed to be a GOOF, for laughs, as she was holding an AR15 while she was doing this guy... It was supposed to be a pleasant diversion for a few moments, something to laugh about, not something to start a 2 day controversy... Jeeze... |
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Quoted: DK [:D] P.S. Let's see...... where's my papers...... hmmmm...... uhhhh...... Yep, I'm Free, White and over 21!! Cool!! View Quote hey, heY, hEY, HEY! You *KNOW* you're not allowed to make disparaging remarks about your freedoms here... Or is Grin still on the other forum? You might be safe, here. Later, J(DELETIOUS-1)C |
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I don't see the reasoning behind any argument on this. We are using someone else's site. They have asks us to only post appropriate things. We should respect that plain and simple.
I just thought of this as well.... If someone linked to a site where child porn was or something similarly bad you would be putting these guys at risk legally I would think. If someone wants to see porn with guns like was originally posted they should start an e-mail thread and exchange links via e-mail only. Personally I couldn't care less for the porn factor but Bikini chicks with guns are cool to me. John |
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I think all sides have had a chance to bring up their points. I'm locking this thread so we can consider it "over with", and be done with it.
Like I've said before, I've really got no problem with porn(as some of you from the "other" site will attest). I just feel very strongly that it doesn't belong on AR15.com. I've got a great amount of pride in this place, and I'd like to continue to for a LONG time... Thanks. |
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Quoted: But again, we are mostly freedom loving people who live in and deal with the real world. So there will always be the occassional photo from rotten.com, etc. Please consider it the price of freedom(like putting up with Louis Farrakans stupid ass). View Quote Also, I think there is resistance to percieved "censorship" due the the large moderator to member ratio. Having said that the mods are pretty cool. I actually like Striker, even though I kind of called him out. I would have done the same to Treetop who I consider a "bud". View Quote ....And if I or another member posts the occasional "boobie" with fair warning as to content please let it go. I really have NOT seen anything too far gone as far as pic View Quote We are not deleting the "occasional boobie" if posted as a link,etc....from what I understand,this was not plain nudity. |
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