Posted: 2/10/2005 12:53:34 PM EDT
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What are the limitations and advantages especially long range shooting. M4-AK |
To add: The 30-06 has enough power for every game animal in North America. Plus it is the most popular rifle cartridge, period. Go with the 30. |
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Almost identical cartridge. The .270 has a slight advantage as the ballistic coeeficient for the same weight bullet (and design) is higher. This leads to a faster and flatter shooting gun at the dame bullet weight. This gives you more punch on target. The 30-06 has a slight advantage because you can fire a heavier bullet in the same size action. This gives you more punch on target. Hmmm, I guess it's a wash depending on what you want to do. 
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| I have a Belgium Browning BAR in 270. For most game on the east coast (black bear, wild pig, white tail) I think it is a great round. With 130 gr boat tail I have had awesome results. My hand loads are right around 3250 fps. A good number of the deer I have hit with it have dropped in their tracks, the rest went no more than a few yards. With the speed it has, I have found it to be quite flat. Again these are my results with 130 gr, which many consider then bullet for the 270. |
| I spent soooo much time debating the caliber for a deer rifle. Looked at all the ballistics tables, drew graphs, the whole kit and kaboodle. In the end, I realized it doesn't make much difference. You'd be hard-pressed to hit anything much beyond 250-300 yards unless you're a superb shot, and closer than that, there's not a hill of beans worth of difference. The only reason to choose one over the other is that the -06 has a much wider variety of bullets available, etc. and can take down bigger game with the heavier bullets. |
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Looking over my Nosler reloading manual. If you want to compare bullets, its best to compare by Sectional Density not by weight. Usually higher the Sectional Density, deeper the penetration. Here is a listing of the .270 Win and the 30-06 bullets. .277 130 grain Bullets (Max Velocity 3100 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .416 Sectional Density .242 Ballistic Tip Ballistic Coefficient .433 Section Density .242 .277 140 grain Bullet (Max Velocity 3000 fps) Ballistic Tip Ballistic Coefficient .456 Section Density .261 Partition Ballistic Coefficient .432 Sectional Density .261 .277 150 grain Bullets (Max Velocity 2900 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .465 Sectional Density .279 Ballistic Tip Ballistic Coefficient .496 Section Density .279 .277 160 grain Bullet (Max Velocity 2800 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .434 Sectional Density .298 .308 165 grain Bullets (Max Velocity 2800 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .410 Sectional Density .248 Ballistic Tip Ballistic Coefficient .475 Section Density .248 .308 180 grain Bullets(Max Velocity 2750 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .474 Sectional Density .271 Ballistic Tip Ballistic Coefficient .507 Section Density .271 .308 200 grain Bullets(Max Velocity 2650 fps) Partition Ballistic Coefficient .481 Sectional Density .301 Accubond Ballistic Coefficient .588 Section Density .301 |
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I shoot a 270. I kills deer & elk DEAD!!! I lost the front quarter of a 260 lb mule deer with a 275 yard shot with the 270. Did all kinds of damage! If you need more than a 270, you'll need at least a 300 Winchester Magnum, which I also shoot. It is way too much for mule deer and even elk under 300 yards. I hand load all my ammo. That stuff costs too much from the store! to 300 yards in a 30 cal, do a 308 in a short action. You'll like that too. The trick is to get a fast enough twist to stabelize heavier bullets (in 308 and 30-06) Most come with a 1/12 twist. That limits you to a 165 gr bullet . If you have a 1/10, it's good to 200 gr. My 300 WM has a 1/10 rate of twist (Remington 700 PSS/DM sniper rifle). It will stablize a 220 gr. Serria Matchking! My Ruger 270 is a 1/10 twist. Hope this helps. |
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NOW THIS IS A DEBATE WORTH HAVING!! Probably one of the oldest this vs that debates in the gun business. Thank you Elmer Keith. I prefer the .270, it will handle anything I will ever come across. Anything bigger, meet Mr. WBY. All above responses are right and all below will be right. there is no wrong side here.... |
You can find 30-06 and .270 Win just about anywhere that sells ammo. I think all Walmart's carry .270 Win and 30-06. Just pick one and shoot it enough to get to know it. Use bullets for the job at hand, good shot placement, and neither cartridge will let you down. 
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Try finding surplus .270 ammo @ $5 for 20 rounds. |
That's what gives the '06 the edge IMO. But .270 isn't exactly scarce either. Though, as mentioned above, there isn't any surplus .270. Some say to go with the .270 for lessened recoil. If you are concerned about recoil, I say skip both and get a .308. My first centerfire rifle was a 30-06. At the time it was a big investment, and I had no way of knowing if I'd ever be able to afford another rifle. The '06 covered all the bases. And, it had some sentimental value as well. |
I think they do |
