[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Child Support Sucks (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/4/2005 3:11:33 PM EDT
| For those who remember the other thread, we are now upto almost a $1000. She can go jump in a lake. What kind of child eats 50lbs of food in a week? Almost forgot the surgery she will need in the next 2 months. Guess who is supposed to foot the bill? NOT. |
missed it ardoc, link please. Chris |
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Bama remembers! They do make child support unreasonable at times no question. How are you supposed to survive on 20% of you pay? Friend of the Court in most states is a joke. And they can fuck with all they want. My GFs ex owe her over $10k and she has written, called and visited the office and no action. |
| I work with a deadbeat dad who owes child support to the tune of $90,000. Every time he bitches about it I just tell him I don't give a fuck, which of course pisses him off but he shouldn't have spent all those years ducking payments. I'm not comparing him to ARDOC, just sharing. |
Oh jeez, Michigan sucks about child support, ex absofrickinpositivly loved it. Right up to the point I got full custody and she had to pay me. Never heard so much damn whining in my life. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander..........And she knows damn well the sec she quits I will be f-in with her life every chance I get. Paybacks suck.
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At least your kids have agood dad. |
Damn betcha he does, He got an SKS and 1000 rounds for Cristmas, he was happy as heck. Ex has not seen him but twice in 3 years, I really don't know how she can do that, but her loss. We are going to split a dragunov next show. I figure 3.998 GPA with advanced classes should be worth a little banging at the range. |
I guess you never learned about personal responsiblity. Oh ya the Almost forgot the surgery she will need in the next 2 months. Guess who is supposed to foot the bill? Carrier the child on you health insurance. I hate dead beat dads. |
I never heard him say he was a deadbeat. FWIW, FOTC in Michigan is full of lesbo divorced middle aged assholes posing as women. I was denied abatement because, and I quote, "were going to keep it just in case you ever get in arrearages" I went to court and told the judge I was going to put them in prison "just in case they rob a bank" He got the picture and I got my money back. Be very careful about calling someone a deadbeat til you know the whole story. I know a good friend of mine who actually owed more weekly then he made, fuckin bullshit, and he was/is a great dad who spends every sec. he can either seeing his kids or working. [He was not paying arrearages either] |
Your kid has a super dad. He will count himself very fortunate when he grows up and understands what an accomplishment it is that you raised him so well.  My dad was like your ex. It took literally court orders and threats from his base CO to get him to pay anything. He paid his absolute minimum child support of 100 bucks a month to support his two sons. Two sons. Fifty dollars each.  And he used to complain about that too.  We saw him about once every two or three years when we were kids, and I stayd with him for two days once when I was in college. Two days too many. And that was it. He didn't like us, or being a father. He recently died, alone, ridden with cancer, none of his children had had any contact with him since 1985. I'd like to shed a tear for him, but somehow I can't muster it up. Guess I'd have made a terrible actor- I can't cry on cue. Remember that, you guys who bitch about child support. That could be you someday, dying miserably and unwanted, like my old man. There are real human beings, YOUR children, at the receiving end of that money you work so hard for. 
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I'm willing to bet large amounts of money you've never had anything taken out of your check besides taxes, let alone alimony. So, unless you can PROVE you have gone through this, perhaps you can keep your own advice to yourself. |
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Naw all you need to do is move to Oregon. It's a safe heaven for dead beat dads. My ex hasn't paid child support in 8 years and as a punishment they've now garnished his tax refund. I won't hold my breath. He claims he isn't working [he's a wink wink real estate agent with a Masters in Nuclear Physics and Engineering]. When things do get a little heated he just files for bankrup. He files on average of 7-8 times a year. I know I know legally you can only file every 3 years or so but in Oregon they allow you to file long enough to stop garnishments but they're denied. Patty |
Puppy getting pretty big Ardoc? My husband and I one brief period where we weren't getting along. We were both under too much stress at the time. I was so mad at him, that I went to a divorce site, used the child support calculator, and left the screen up on the computer for him to find. I knew that he saw it when he looked like this----->  We had a really good laugh about it, and went out to dinner to talk. I played it straight, and said, I don't know.....$60,000 a year (+ alimony) to have weekends off? Sounds like a really good deal.... IMO the system does seem stacked towards women. |
Not too excited about supporting your kid? Then perform a "Release of Parental Rights" and GO AWAY! Sign off on the kid and leave them the fuck alone. There's 2 sides to every story......and we've heard yours! |
Easy for you to say. Your not the one working your ass off and only bringing home $1004 dollars a month because of child support, taxes, and a court order that says you have to have your kids on your insurance even though your ex wife has even better insurance than you do that costs less then half the price. I don't mind paying what I can to make sure that my kids have everything they need in their lives, but I hate it when more is being taken out of my paycheck then they really need just so my ex can bank it and use it for her own stupid hobbies and trips to the casino, all the while leaving me struggling financially just to keep my bank account above zero and the bills paid. Throw into this the fact that my ex makes OVER twice what I make each month. Taking care of my children has never been an issue for me. Being raped by my ex and the state while scraping the bottom of the barrel so my ex can push my children off on a babysitter while she goes and wastes money at a casino is what chaps my nutsack. So yes, I do complain about child support. I complain mightily. Loudly. Annoyingly. To anyone who will listen so that perhaps one of these days enough people will understand and vote for family legal system reform and stop screwing fathers just because some ditzy bitch decided that she didn't want to be married anymore and went out and fucked a guy who was in the loony bin for eating himself and lighting his arms on fire when life became too much for him to handle. For what its worth though, I spend every possible moment I can with my kids, and am in the midst of a very nasty custody battle for my children right now. I have absolutly huge friggen lawyer bills and court costs, but if I have to put one of my attorneys kids through college so I can ensure that my own children are raised right, then so be it. But that still dosn't stop me from bitching about this stupidly high child support payment that I make every month. Chris |
Who need surgery? Your kid or your ex. If your kid then do everything you can and quit bitchin. If its your ex, just hope it all goes well for your childs sake. Sometimes doing the right thing sucks, but still worth it. |
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I used to pay 2x as much just to keep my kids living near me. I paid her mortgage which was $400 more than her child support and I paid the electric bill and sometimes groceries. Because we quit having the State be the middleman with my checks (they were late often) we worked it out between us. One day the State calls her up and asked if she had any contact wiht me as they were getting ready to nail my ass as a deadbeat dad. She said no and told them to stay out of it as its not their business. If they had arrested me for being a deadbeat dad I would have spend shitloads of money fighting the every inch of the way for traumatizing my children like that. The State keeps wanting to get involved and bot my ex and I tell them to F Off all the time. The State was late before and screwed up her checks on too many occasions. I had to front her extra $$ to make sure my kids were ok. The then State gets her the check a week late. F the State. If my Ex and I can work it out without them, then they should stay away. I hope things work out for you. PS anyone know when its a childs right to chose where they want to live? Both my boys want to live with me but they are only 7 and 10. Hell I wont even charge my ex any support, I just want what my kids want. |
Jeeze...that stinks...... sorry to hear it -HS |
Obviously not you fucking <deleted>. He was talking about his new PUPPY!!!!!!!! Read it all <dleted> TXL |
| People get very defensive about children on this board. Thats one of the things that I love about the people here. Regardless of the petty squabbles and bitching that goes on, the majority of the members are good people and you really wouldnt want to hurt a kid in front of us. |
This is obviously a sore subject with you. I understand your passionate post. Sounds like you are a good, stand up man. I don't know when the children legally have a say in where they live, but as they get older, it is almost impossible to go against what they want. Tell any 14 year old they can't have what they want and you will see the carnage Good Luck! |
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I feel for anyone who doesn't have custody of their children. Ican't imagine not having my daughter near me every night (another daughter in a few months by the way) I came from a broken family and can't imagine now what my dad went thru all these years. Anyone who says "don't have kids" is an angry fucking moron that will regret it if he doesn't change someday! What do you have to live for when you grow old? |
I know the thread is about a dog..I did read the thread, but I want to talk about real child support and go off topic..  I just got done with child support last August when my daughter turned 18... It's called "The screwing you get for the screwing you got" My kids didn't see a whole lot of the money either. Ex had to support her non-working, lazy, fat ass, husband who did nothing but play video games all day and feed his fat face.... Now the ex bitch has to work 2 jobs to support his ass...  I was constantly sending money to my kids or giving them some cash when I saw them... They knew they could call dad anytime they needed something. Still can even though they're both over 18... Don't try complaining to the court either..They don't care... |
Don't ever ask a child to make such a decision. They are too young and too immature to understand the consequences of such an action UNLESS one parent is violent towards them. Otherwise, they don't have the smarts and decision-making capabilities to choose between one parent or the other. That makes the kids feel responsible for cleaving the family in two. BTW my mom told me a while back that at the timje of the divorce, our dad wanted to split us kids up- my younger brother was to stay with our mother, I would go with my dad- I was "better behaved and less hassle" it seems... It's in the court trial transcripts. (predates no-fault divorce, whatever that is...) Whatever. People, don't make your kids a football in the divorce. And ARDOC- that dog of yours is getting too much food- if he's even getting it at all.... |
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We had to buy a 50lb bag again in the last month! Part of the problem is the big dog is getting into the puppies food occasionally. Divorce sucks all the way around for families. Occasionally its a good thing depending on the situation but you cant beat a good two parent upbringing. |
How old is your big dog? I stopped feeding my puppies puppy food. I think with good quality dog food [I feed my dogs Nutro Natural] they don't need the extra calories puppy food provides. Patty |