Posted: 1/28/2005 6:37:11 PM EDT
| I got back from wallyworld about 1/2 hr ago bought some ammo. I carried my 5-7. It felt really good to carry it. But for some reason I kept thinking what if I had to tell a cop I was carrying it . The local cops are confiscating all 5-7's until the court gives them directions on what to do with them, like give it back or keep it or destroy it. I don't know, anyways I brought the sales of transfer slip you get from the gun dealer when the gun is purchased. My defense would be showing the copper the slip and saying to him/her that this is the sales authorization number, it was giving to me by The CT. State Police. IF I was not legally able to pocess this firearm, the Ct. State Police would not have issued me the Sales Authorization number. keep in mind I did not break any laws, it just happened that the police found out by me or someone with me I had one on me. True story here. A cop happen to be behind me traveling up the main stretch and my tail lens popped out of the fender. He stopped me to tell me about it. What I did not like about the stop was he asked for my license and reg, he noticed my CCW permit in my wallet, he asked if I had any weapons such as gun, knives etc. I said no. which I did not, get my point I did not break the law but I was in a situation of admitting I was packing some heat, should I lie or tell the truth. How would you handle yourself in this type of situation? Keep in mind the gun you are carrying is under scrutiny but legal and you did not break any laws. |
| All this crap started when that drunk was stopped with the 5-7 sitting in plain veiw on his front seat. Also I should have said this my buddy the Bridgeport cop says to me not to carry for awhile until all this shit simmers down. I feel I should be able to carry the 5-7 if I chose too, or the .50 AE, or the 44 mag. My choice, if I'm wrong here tell me..... |
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Cops are illegally confiscating FN Five-seveNs when they find them. He's asking if you want to risk that happening. Personally, if anyone tries to take my gun without a warrant, they're leaving on a stretcher or in a bodybag. You don't rob me, you don't assault me, you don't break into my home, and you sure as heck don't try any of the above while I've got a gun. |
| Its more dangerous then all those Beta C Mags that cause mass murders in the shopping malls......................Personally, I wouldnt use it as a carry gun any way. If you chose to, thats your right. I think CT is f##ked as is the state I am currently stationed in - Massachusetts. Carry what you want - the key isnt the gun for carry - its how you shoot, how dependable the weapon is, how you move and fire with that othewise concealed weapon. If you have a CCW/LTC - their last concern should be your "papers".......I'm thinking about moving to the deep south - New England is getting to fascist for my tastes. Even half the LEO's hate guns and are afraid of lawabiding citizens........Unless we can stop liberal socialist Michael Moore's from BREEDING New England will only be a haven for raging homosexual socialist POS. |
Sue them so you can buy even more 5-7s. You are not violating any present CT or federal law by posessing or carrying it. That is outright theft by police officers, and you have every right to call them JBT, thug, fascist, pig, etc if they take it from you. 
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Exactly, |
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot They are not allowed to confiscate Five-seveN's just because they think if is illegal. Until something is on the books, they are violating somebodies civil rights. Are they also confiscating high power rifles? 454 Casull's? 500 S&W magnums? That wrong, just plain wrong. There is a prominant 2nd Amend lawyer here in G-boro, I think if they took mine for no reason than they thought I shouldn't have it, I pay him a visit. |
You are right - very right, but then too - I believe your state recognizes that every able bodied citizens has the right to keep and bear arms. In New England, all we got is vague stories of Bunker Hill and Lexington and Concord. All battles located in what are now liberal cesspools. They can have New England in my opinion - but they cannot have my freedom - back me in a corner and let them see what happens. |
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Why not carry something else then? Personally I don't carry a pistol that I haven't put 500 rounds through without a failure of any kind. I also don't give cops reason to ask me if I'm caring concealed. I gotta' wonder what cost more - 500 rounds of 5.7 ammo or a brand new 1911 pistol and 500 rounds? (what kind of POS car pop's a tail light out all by itself ????) |
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Its a sad day when we need to qualify our reason for owning a specific weapon. This is the same kinda shit that precipitated the 94AWB. What part of "Shall NOT be infringed" do these people not get? Its not a complicatied sentence....pretty straightforward really. 
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+1+1 and so on |
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Bottom line this for me – is this confiscation a theory or actuality??? If they are actually confiscating them, how the hell are they justifying it? If you have some background or press reports where we can get confirmation and details. This is grounds for a massive fire mission (letter writing campaign/protest), where the police are preemptively confiscating a legal firearm… |
Sounds more like the lawsuit sort of fire mission is needed to me (for those actually harmed), but both would be good. |
The confiscations, if occring with no legal means, are wrong. On the other hand your Rambo self-opinion is quite humorous. |
I haven't seen anything put out on this, does anyone have a link ? Usually you would expect such action AFTER a court order. |
Still, BS like that needs to be prosecuted. Unilaterally confiscating things with no authority is theft and a civil rights violation when it comes to the RKBA and should be treated as such. Those cops need to be behind bars, never wearing a badge again, and in the poor house for the rest of their life from theft/civil rights lawsuits. |
If this is happening, it is not the decision of some individual officer. You need to find out who made the decision, is it a Chief somewhere, etc. You say .....
How does rambos self talk above achive any of that? |
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I think I am going to call BS on this one! There was one incident of a single guy stopped for a DUI that had his Five-seveN on the front seat of his car and the cops took the 5.7 along with the driver to jail. Somehow this has now become mass confiscations. Show me one news article other than the one I mentioned above. The shop I bought my Five-seveN from has sold two others. Between the other four shops in my city they have sold a grand total of six Five-seveN's from what I have heard. How many of those owners do think have been stoped by LEO's, discovered them carrying their Five-seveN's, and took their guns away from them? I carry my Five-seveN for CCW 24/7. In the 10 years that I have carried (mostly 45 ACP or .357 mag) I have been stoped twice for minor traffic violations. Both times I gave the LEO my drivers license and my CCW permit. Not once has he asked to see my gun. I'm sorry but I think there's alot of BS flying around here. MadDog 
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I meant to agree with you Re: Rambo comments. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. If what he said is true though, it is just downright wrong and criminal. I would like to see a link however, things like this can get blown out of proportion. |
So the guy was arrested for DUI and the cops booked his pistol for safe keeping instead of leaving it on the front seat for the tow driver to "borrow"? Bastards! I'll bet they took his wallet and cash too, maybe even his watch & cellphone! |
Someone asserted that they now have a policy of general consfication regarding this handgun (without any legal authority to do so). A link establising this as more than just a rumor might be nice. |
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Could you not file charges against the Officer for larceny? If they try to take it, inform them they are operating outside the scope of their legal authority and it your property is siezed without legal cause, you will swear out a warranty for larceny against him. If they take it, 1) Demand a reciept 2) Go to the station to retrieve it. If they will not release your property, swear out a warrant against the officer for larceny. |
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I don't bullshit, When I say they take them away, I don't say it's manditory by all agencies, I was told by my GOOD friend A Bridgeport Policeman that the 5.7 will be taken (by some misinformed cops) away until they (the jackoff cop) finds out what is going on with them by law. That does not mean you may get a cop that may say it's a bunch of bullshit and go on your merry o' way. I hope you understand that and I'm sure the ignorants will bash me some more. Thanksyou, The non-bullshitter |
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I don't bullshit either. Public officials can be held accountable for larceny. You are describing an act of larceny. If they take private property without cause, they can be charged just like you and me. They are not allowed to 'make stuff up' no matter how 'well intentioned' they feel they are. If they try this, they are acting outside their scope of authority and subject to criminal charges. Making new firearms laws are the pervue of the state legislature, not the local police. The only way they can take and keep a 5-7 is if you let them keep it. |
I agree with you, no doubt. Don't want any trouble, just posting what I hear or was told or saw. |