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1/24/2005 2:12:21 PM EDT
.22 LR
.22 Win Mag
.17 HMR

What is the difference?

Are the uses different?

General... Which is cheaper/spendier?
1/24/2005 2:14:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Cheaper - .22LR
Most expensive/my favorite - .17HMR
1/24/2005 2:15:23 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Cheaper - .22LR
Most expensive/my favorite - .17HMR

Why, if I may ask?

Since Ive never even seen a .17 HMR round... and I want a new rimfire....
1/24/2005 2:18:10 PM EDT
[#3]
.22lr is the cheapest, most common rnd--great for plinking, learing how to shoot, small varmint hunting--~40-50gr bullet going ~900-1000 fps

.22 win mag is a suped up 22lr

.17hmr is a light bullet, necked, and goes ~2000fps; fast and flat as hell

all are used for varmint hunting and some for competition

1/24/2005 2:18:43 PM EDT
[#4]
You guys forgot the best round.  17HM2.  Same length as the 22LR.  Flat trajectory and super accurate.  Not as powerful as the 17HMR but cheaper and the conversion kits work with any regular 10/22.  

$5 for a box of 50.  Dime sized holes at 50 yards.  
1/24/2005 2:20:04 PM EDT
[#5]
.22LR=cheapest of all three to shoot.  Good for small game like rabbit and squirrel out to 50 yards or so.  

.22MAG=the middle of the three in price to shoot.  Good for small game like rabbit and squirrel out to 100-125 or so yards.  I would suggest headshots only.  Has more punch than the .22LR.  Could probably kill a fox too.  

.17HMR=most expensive to shoot.  Good for small game out to 200 yards or so I've heard. (DON'T ACTUALLY OWN ONE)  Shoots flatter than the two above.  Supposedly it is point and click with minimal drop out to 150 yards or so.  AGAIN, headshots only on small game.  This is the most destructive round of the three.  Headshot=meat in the game bag.  Bodyshot=exploded carcass.  If you are looking for target shooting, this one will probably suit your fancy more.  

I need to get me one of them HMRs also known as hummers.  
1/24/2005 2:22:27 PM EDT
[#6]
So far, it seems I may be getting the .17 HMR....
1/24/2005 2:41:45 PM EDT
[#7]
You probably should get both the 22LR and 17 HMR. The 22LR is great for competing fairly with your friends; it's cheap and most other people will have one.

The 17 HMR is better for more serious work.

It's been found that the 22LR fouls until it reaches an optimum of fouling (has to do with building up a doughnut of carbon fouling that just adequately squeezes your lead bullet), after which it remains fairly stable in accuracy and requires no barrel cleaning. In my experience, the 17 HMR is more like a centerfire with respect to fouling, in fact, it seems to lose precision after about 50 rounds (I have a Cooper 57M in 17 HMR). This isn't a bad thing, I don't mind cleaning barrels and it may indicate that I probably should have broken in the barrel more carefully.

At any rate, my first choice for a rimfire would be the common 22LR.
1/24/2005 2:45:44 PM EDT
[#8]
Ive got a .22LR already, my grandpa gave it to me...

it a .22 made in 1955... my grandma mail ordered it for him for christmas that year.  ITs a JC Higgins .22LR, and has a Rifleman 4X scope with it.  Best and most accurate .22 Ive ever shot, and I dont have the heart to replace it.  I dont think I ever will.
1/24/2005 4:21:50 PM EDT
[#9]
It really depends on the purpose of the gun. If you want something for just plinking, go with a .22lr. If you want a good accurate squirrel rifle that shoot's flater than a .22 but doesn't destroy meat like the 17HMR, go with the 17Mach2.  If you want a good accurate 100yard rimfire, go with the 17HMR.
1/24/2005 4:27:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Good old .22 long rifle for me. The oldest cartridge ammo?
1/24/2005 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#11]
I used a .22 lr for killing deer when I worked on a farm years ago. We also kill full grown hogs with it. It's where you put it that counts. Never shot a .17 hmr but I hear they are flat shooting and accurate.
1/24/2005 4:32:50 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
.22LR=cheapest of all three to shoot.  Good for small game like rabbit and squirrel out to 50 yards or so.  
.22MAG=the middle of the three in price to shoot.  Good for small game like rabbit and squirrel out to 100-125 or so yards.  I would suggest headshots only.  Has more punch than the .22LR.  Could probably kill a fox too.  

.17HMR=most expensive to shoot.  Good for small game out to 200 yards or so I've heard. (DON'T ACTUALLY OWN ONE)  Shoots flatter than the two above.  Supposedly it is point and click with minimal drop out to 150 yards or so.  AGAIN, headshots only on small game.  This is the most destructive round of the three.  Headshot=meat in the game bag.  Bodyshot=exploded carcass.  If you are looking for target shooting, this one will probably suit your fancy more.  

I need to get me one of them HMRs also known as hummers.  



If you can only hit something within 50 yards with the 22LR, you need practice or to open your eyes when you shoot.  I can hit [consistently] 2" ring at 75 yards with iron sights.... And I suck.  Scope well out past 125 yards.

Also, the 17 is not necessarily the end all that all its hype would have you believe.  Look at even mild wind performance and knock-down ability.
1/24/2005 4:35:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Spend some time here www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php
1/24/2005 4:38:05 PM EDT
[#14]
22lr is the cheapest and most expensive.  Walmart bulk packs are about $9/550 rounds.   Midas Lapua about $10/50.  Price you pay for the games you play.

SRM
1/24/2005 4:50:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Well I thought the "or so" would cover my statement of 50 yards OR SO.  That is an average when hunting.  No matter.  I would say 75 yards is not out of reason.  But if you are doing 125 yard hunting with a .22LR then I would say you need to upgrade to the mag or hmr.
1/24/2005 5:02:41 PM EDT
[#16]
Everyone forgot the .22 short and long. Neither are really worth a damn though, particularly their price.

If you want inexpensive blasting, .22LR -Good all around caliber. But, does have it's limitations too.

The .22Mag is a more powerful version of the LR. I can't really comment on accuracy but, it's not as good as the HMR or LR. -It's got more of a use for hunting larger animals.

If you want fun, accurate, longer range (around 200yards), sometimes quite explosive (for rimfire), .17HMR - Good for small varmints... and FUN!
1/24/2005 5:06:02 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
You guys forgot the best round.  17HM2.  Same length as the 22LR.  Flat trajectory and super accurate.  Not as powerful as the 17HMR but cheaper and the conversion kits work with any regular 10/22.  

$5 for a box of 50.  Dime sized holes at 50 yards.  



The mach2 is looking good.  Who is selling the conversion kits?  I know Green Mountain was going to release one but last I heard they cancelled the project.