Posted: 12/21/2004 6:57:21 AM EDT
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Has anyone else tried this? I know alittle bit about it myself. There are to differant types of acupuncture, cchinease and japanease. Chinease wroks on the central nervous system while japanease works with the muscle tissue. Example: For my back injury the chinease meathod had 8 tiny needles in my left ear, a few down my neck and back, 5 in the hand and ankle. I did not find this method useful but many other people do. With Japanease acupuncture 8 slightly larger needles whe stuck into my lower back right where the pain was occuring. SOmetimes the acupuncturist would first dip the needles in oil from Moya Grass" which would gently heat the muscles from inside the body. This method is somewhat effective for when I am really locked up. I have also found that like other doctors and such alot of it comes down to the talent of the guy sticking the needles in you. Discuss SGatr15 |
Only thing I know is that my neighbor tried it to quit smokeing. I have been his neighbor for 18 years, he was a smoker for 15 of those years. he tried for like 2 years to quit with all the different stuff they have now and it didn't work but the second he did that accupuncture stuff he was smoke free from that point on. Its been 3 years and not one smoke since the accupuncture. He swears by it and I know he's not a bullshiter. Thats my experiance with it.
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Acupuncture Eases Knee, Neck Pain, Studies Find TUESDAY, Dec. 21 (HealthDayNews) -- Alternative therapies such as acupuncture and spinal manipulation may be worth a try to help relieve neck, back and knee pain. That's the conclusion of a trio of studies that appear in the Dec. 21 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine. In one study of patients with painful knee arthritis, University of Maryland researchers compared acupuncture with sham acupuncture -- in which needles are inserted into points that aren't true acupuncture points. A third group received education sessions on arthritis management. The 570 patients were randomly divided to received either 23 sessions of acupuncture over 26 weeks; 23 sessions of sham acupuncture over 26 weeks; or six 2-hour education sessions. After 26 weeks, the true acupuncture group experienced greater improvement than the sham group or the education group in both pain and function. "This echoes the results of studies we have been doing for 11 years now," said study author Dr. Brian M. Berman, director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Maryland School of Medicine. from...www.ajc.com/health/content/shared-auto/healthnews/punc/523006.html Sgatr15 |
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I've gotten accupuncture done when I threw out my back years ago. Helped with pain and healing. It relaxed the muscles and eased the pain. More so than pain killer (Flexiril). I also used a chropractor. My mom is currently goin thru it to help her with her sciatic nerve. Works wonders. Seems western medicine is all about masking the problem with drugs, instead of using the body's own healing ability. |
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Acupuncture is a tough one.. You've got two opposing forces at work.. The new age hippies who smoke the pot to help their lung cancer, and the closed minded traditionalists who won't trust anything that didn't come from a little brown bottle. The hippies will tell you it will do everything short of launching space station components into orbit. They are full of it. The traditionalists will tell you it's all snake oil and baseless BS, and it's entire beneficial effect is nothing but a placebo. They are full of it too. Nobody can give you a good scientific explanation for WHY it works, but the effects consistently prove to be better than placebos for a wide range of uses. If you have a need, you should find out how well it works for you. Just for comparison, ask any honest doctor for a scientific explanation of how and why pharmaceutical painkillers work. Most PDR references mention that "exact action of drug not fully understood, but.." My understanding of the difference between acupuncture styles is that the practitioners of Chinese and Japanese acupuncture have a sort of rivalry going.. Chinese being the more tradtional form, with Japanese using more evolving, modernized methods (compared to the Chinese. It's still asian voodoo though!). The chinese have done some amazing things with acupuncture though, including major surgery with an alert, awake patient aenesthitized with pins and nothing else. I remember one particular case where chinese docs had a woman laid open, and she asked for (and recieved) a bowl of fruit to eat while they worked. Sgt, you got anything in particular you want me to ask the Jr. Acupuncturist in Training? |
Well, not really. I think I explained the chinease method correctly...or did I not? The Japanease method I think kicks ass for the most part. And I agree that it can't solve everything and don't see how it can work on addictions like smoking and such. All I know is that when my muscles are really tied up they appear to get "Reset" and relaxed from the treatment, similiar to a very hard massage. The Moya grass is great...I don't know exactly what it is but it smells funny and gets a great heating sensation. The guy I have do it is actually japanease and often takes fruit adn other things in trade, along with insurance. SGatr15 |
She basically said that the descriptions of the treatments were on, ie: an attempt at affecting pressure points and nerve bundles vs. a muscle treatment attempting to unlock the knots, but that Chinese will also include muscle work, and Japanese will also include nerve stimulation. She said the nerve treatment might be more effective with other points or repetition, but it's only going to be _so_ effective as pain relief. "There are acupuncturists that could have him dancing in two hours, but they're all in Asia, and it will only last until the needles are out." The "Moya" might me Mo Yao or myrrh. Sometimes it's ignited on the end of the pins while they're inserted. Human dhoop stick holder. Myself I had been really wondering about that aspect of the treatment and whether it had any affect whatsoever. Interesting to hear your experience. She's been treated with acupuncture for recurrant sinus polyps. The treatments prevented growth of new polyps while she kept it up. It didn't do much for the pre-existing ones, nor did it offer a permanent cure. That took an ENT with a mini-woodchipper and a week sounding like Lily Tomlin. |
| a girlfriend was dealing with hives and the drugs gave her BAD dreams, etc. she tried acup. and the swelling went down the 1st session, never got them again. she looked like the lion from the wizard of oz a few times. i've never tried it, but i would fly back to that guy if i did. |
| I had it done once for chronic neck spasms. Had about a hundred needles in me at one time. At one point during the procedure my neck went completely relaxed and I felt like a million pounds had been lifted off my shoulders. Felt absolutely great. Then after it was done and I went home, the spasms roared back in about an hour. I never tried it again. It was a bit creepy having that many needles in you all at once from head to toe. |
